Trade: [KC/MIA] Tyreek Hill to Dolphins for 1st rounder in 2022, 2nd rounder in 2022 and other picks

EpochLink

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Travis Kelce isn’t getting any younger , he will be 33 this October. Unless he goes on the Tony Gonzalez plan of staying in shape he should be fine. His cap hit this year isn’t so bad but the next 3 years after will reach double digits.
 

Shockmaster

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I know Hill and Adams are really good, but the deals to acquire them just seem a bit overboard. Crazy off-season so far to say the least.
 

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I love how convinced you are..

People are typically only hurt by thier own expectations.
If Allen gets hurt you have a shot at division otherwise the bottle neck for a wildcard will be brutal. The AFC north is on the schedule, critical games as those teams will be in line for those spots , The Natty and ravens on the road especially.
Put it this way ...really good teams will be watching from the couch in the AFC.
6-11 probably gets the last wildcard in the NFC.

Tua didn’t put up terrible numbers, he was just inconsistent. Most QBs would if they we’re behind that line, and with mediocre skill position players, aside from Waddle and Gisecki. His snap to release was less than 2.5 seconds, so you can understand why he couldn’t go through his progressions or let plays develop.

They go from Fuller, Albert Wilson, Parker, and Waddle, to Waddle, Hill, Parker, Cedric Wilson, Mosehart, Edmonds, and an improved offensive line, with an offensive mastermind at head coach. And there is a lot of noise circulating saying they aren’t done. Maybe an upgrade at center. They’ll have a powerful offense with a top 10 defense. No reason they couldn’t be a wild card team, at the worst.
 

BrindamoursNose

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Yeah, but without having to be afraid of Hill running by everyone you can overload on Kelce and dare anyone else to beat you. KC also doesn't have a running game you have to fear so their 1 dimension just got even more 1 dimensional

Offseason isn't over yet. I don't believe Andy Reid traded away Ty Hill with no plans to replace him in some way. I don't think JuJu was that replacement, either.

He's drafting someone in R1
 

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Offseason isn't over yet. I don't believe Andy Reid traded away Ty Hill with no plans to replace him in some way. I don't think JuJu was that replacement, either.

He's drafting someone in R1
Hardman and Robinson were not exactly high end WR2. KC didn’t draft anyone after Hill became a star WR who became a legit WR threat. Watkins as a. Free agent was their next best WR. So pressure is on Reid to find someone. The picks for hill will allow KC to find help at CB and DE.
 

BrindamoursNose

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Hardman and Robinson were not exactly high end WR2. KC didn’t draft anyone after Hill became a star WR who became a legit WR threat. Watkins as a. Free agent was their next best WR. So pressure is on Reid to find someone. The picks for hill will allow KC to find help at CB and DE.

Or WR
 

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Hill's definitely a true gamebreaker and someone you can't replace but that's one fat contract and they got back some good draft picks. chiefs had to move on from him at that cost.

kc will be okay, they'll find a way to build it back up around Mahomes. the offense might not be as explosive but it will still carry the team.
 

StreetHawk

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Hill's definitely a true gamebreaker and someone you can't replace but that's one fat contract and they got back some good draft picks. chiefs had to move on from him at that cost.

kc will be okay, they'll find a way to build it back up around Mahomes. the offense might not be as explosive but it will still carry the team.
They have to be prepared to adjust how the offense operates without Hill. Safeties won’t play as deep without that deep threat that pairs so well with a QB with a cannon arm. Kelce has to be prepared to face more double teams.
 

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They have to be prepared to adjust how the offense operates without Hill. Safeties won’t play as deep without that deep threat that pairs so well with a QB with a cannon arm. Kelce has to be prepared to face more double teams.
It will definitely be a real test of Mahomes' patience, which showed up as a weakness.
 

BigBadBruins7708

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They have to be prepared to adjust how the offense operates without Hill. Safeties won’t play as deep without that deep threat that pairs so well with a QB with a cannon arm. Kelce has to be prepared to face more double teams.

This.

It not so much replacing Hill's production, which is still a big task, it's the fact that Kelce no longer gets to operate untouched underneath. A lot of him being so open and having room to run was because Hill was pulling the defense deep and creating all that space.
 

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Yeah, MVS and JuJu are solid, but not close to the level of Hill. K.C. is definitely no longer the odds on favorite at this time in the AFC. The draft could certainly change things though, as could where Mathieu ends up signing.
 

Big Poppa Puck

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Waddle cost them their own 1st in 2022. Plus all of the other picks going to KC for Hill. It over exaggerates the return or what was truly given up to get the 2 WR.

It's more of a trade tree type thing. They traded HOU's #3 overall to SF and then used one of the 1sts they got from SF to move up for Waddle and the other one they included in the Hill trade.

 

TheGreenTBer

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Yeah, MVS and JuJu are solid, but not close to the level of Hill. K.C. is definitely no longer the odds on favorite at this time in the AFC. The draft could certainly change things though, as could where Mathieu ends up signing.
Buffalo's the best on paper at the moment IMO but KC has been their boogeyman.

In terms of depth, the AFC is an Olympic swimming pool and the NFC is your communal town pool that the kids are all pissing in (though the West side of the NFC pool is mostly void of urine.)
 

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