TSN: Kassian for Scrivens

[OnTheRun]

Not sure Scrivens career numbers are proof of anything. He played with two of the most utterly garbage teams of this decade in the Leafs and Oilers.

2011–12 TOR 4-5-2 3.13 .902
2012–13 TOR 7-9-2 2.69 .915
2013–14 LAK 7-5-4 1.97 .931
2013–14 EDM 9-11-0 3.01 .916
2014–15 EDM 15-26-11 3.16 .890

Anomalies, anyone? He apparently does quite well under good defensive systems.

I can't promise that he'll do well as a full-time starter, but maybe for a stretch of games long enough to get our real starter back...

GP-GAA-W-L-T-SV%
2000-01 26 2.24 12 7 3 0.903
2001-02 21 1.88 13 6 0 0.931
2002-03 22 2.43 7 12 0 0.916
2003-04 62 2.09 32 19 9 0.924


You can find this kind of pattern for any goalie who have spent enough time in the NHL to get hot at the right time, the stats above are David Aebischer.

 

[Kimota]

Scriven for the Winter Classic!

 

[didimentionlarseller]

so we have 3 average to bad goalies plus an injured Price

this makes sense right?

 

[Nynja*]

Man, if MT thinks Condon and Tokarski were bad because they werent stopping grade A prime scoring chances, wait till Scrivens lets in garbage shots.

 

[Habsfan1215]

New top line: Patches - DD - Scrivens


Or is there some other way he helps us put the puck in the other team's net?

Therrien can always put his buddy DD in net...maybe he"ll have some goals on his stats

 

[grumpworsley]

Ok lets trade our 3-4 line forward for a player we are not going to use now lets trade that player for another player we are not going to use.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

So we traded a serviceable bottom 6 winger (proven) for an AHL goaltender..

And this is the management team people on this board think is doing a good job?

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

So we traded a serviceable bottom 6 winger (proven) for an AHL goaltender..

And this is the management team people on this board think is doing a good job?

He has yet to prove himself after all that has happened...
And we already have enough bottom 6 wingers, just saying.

 

[AshyHabs]

Hi, I'm new here, this is my first post...and I must say that Scriven's in net scares me as much as Condon/Tokarski especially with that AHL record. brb gonna barf

 

[Kraniumm]

He has yet to prove himself after all that has happened...
And we already have enough bottom 6 wingers, just saying.

Yep.

The big management issue is the fact that they first re-hired a failed coach, and are now refusing to replace him.

 

[BatVader]

Man, if MT thinks Condon and Tokarski were bad because they werent stopping grade A prime scoring chances, wait till Scrivens lets in garbage shots.

Condon and Tokarski have already been doing that.
Scrivens isn't our starter, Condon will be.
Scrivens is just an NHL experienced presence in net to help Condon get perspective and rest.
Hell. If Scrivens can help win just 25% of the games, its a step up.

 

[DJ Breadman]

So we traded a serviceable bottom 6 winger (proven) for an AHL goaltender..

And this is the management team people on this board think is doing a good job?

My thoughts exactly, look at the moves mb has made the last year or two nothing has improved the team. The team has improved because of Prices goaltending and that's it.

 

[OldCraig71]

Hi, I'm new here, this is my first post...and I must say that Scriven's in net scares me as much as Condon/Tokarski especially with that AHL record. brb gonna barf

Whiskey 7 is that you? Bargain bin has struck again.

 

[Daniels45]

So we traded a serviceable bottom 6 winger (proven) for an AHL goaltender..

And this is the management team people on this board think is doing a good job?

Well to be fair management took a risk and was hoping that Kassian would use this 2nd chance to turn his dissapearing career around. They needed him to be what he could be. What does he do in exchange for that chance? Gets into a car accident after drinking all night and breaks his foot. If I was MB I would of been extremely upset. Not only did he break his promise to MB but he also puts the team in a difficult situation by not being able to play(broken foot), AND they lose him for most of the season when you count the rehab and time for reconditioning. You then STILL expect the team to give this guy another chance and risk another relapse??? I dont think so.

Im all for people getting their chances at redemption. Love them come back stories. Part of me wanted to see this with ZK but I also understand why MB decided that he couldn't risk it again. He tried it once and was burned by it. Imagine what would happen here and in this city if ZK relapsed again. What would you all be saying then. Im sure quite a few would complaining on how stupid it was of MB to give this guy another chance and would be calling for his fireing. You can bet on it.

 

[Nynja*]

Condon and Tokarski have already been doing that.

Have they? really? You're going to say Condon and Tokarski have been sieves? Which goals were products of garbage goaltending?

Was it this one off the brutal giveaway and Tom Wilson could pick his corner from the home plate area without any pressure?
Was it this deflection from Oshie where it dropped 2 feet?
Was it this one where Skinner was allowed to dance around the crease while the defenders watched in awe?
Perhaps it was this one where Nordstrom was allowed to camp behind both defenders at 5v5 then jar the puck loose without anyone on him?
Or that time Skinner batted the puck out of mid air, yeah totally Condon's fault there too!
Hey Landon Ferraro, you just sit in the high slot without anyone around you, Price will bail us out!
Patrice Bergeron has so much space in the slot there he could build a condo and rent it out

And thats just the first 3 games, but yeah, keep stat watching and saying "Condon and Tokarski were bad because their save percentages were bad"

Great defensive work letting Helm get on that short breakaway!
weak goaltending there there too, not Pateryn's, nope, Price would have bailed him out

2 on 1 where Markov played the shooter instead of the pass, but thats the goaltenders fault
Zuburus rented a condo from Patrice Bergeron, and Patch was tip toeing around his living area, goaltenders fault though.

 

[AshyHabs]

Whiskey 7 is that you? Bargain bin has struck again.

no I'm actually new lol. worried for tonight's game

 

[JtotheC]

Great trade! As it won't affect the minutes of our franchise player: DD.

 

[Runner77]

Looks like those TV shows where they find toxic materials in a building, you need to get rid of them.

Kassian's fate was sealed the minute he hit the tree (and all the other metaphors it stands for).

All Bergevin did was to to look for a near-matching contract to Kassian's and Scrivens was the path of least resistance, as soon as the Oil agreed to take on some salary so that Scrivens and Kassian would have a similar cap hit.

What the deal particularly says is how desperate GMs are to preserve or add cap space -- it's now a rare commodity, and even on an insignificant deal such as this, notice how Scrivens' retained salary was to the last dollar.

 

[Habsawce]

Bergevin's presser begins now, on RDS info apparently. Don't have a link.

"Galchenyuk might never be a centre."

 

[Winter Eclipse]

"Galchenyuk might never be a centre."

That was just strategic mind games, throwing our opponents for a loop and making Galchenyuk more hungry to prove his worth.

 

[elsubz]

Bergevin: "It never crossed my mind to fire Therrien. We'll get through this together."

hahahaha we're dommed.

 

[Toro]

Losing faith in this team more and more every day....this trade is more about mb's ego then a deal that is hood for the team...kassian should have been given a chance in the ahl to prove himself....we need kassian more than scrivins the bum....at least kassian has upside...he has a disease and mb knew that when he traded for kassian in the 1st place...

This is a trade to make a trade and pick up garbage that was playing like garbage

 

[void]

"Big trades don't happen anymore."

Dallas says hi.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Bergevin: "It never crossed my mind to fire Therrien. We'll get through this together."

hahahaha we're dommed.

 

[sampollock]

yup MB you are just like Ric Flair

"The Stylin’, profilin’, limousine riding, jet flying, kiss-stealing, wheelin’ n’ dealin’ son of a gun!”