TSN: Kassian for Scrivens
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MT cited his goalie's inexperience as an issue recently. MB got him a backup with more experience.
I think the experience will help keep Scrivens grounded. Fundamentally, Scrivens is still a back up and we should expect him to be relatively average but what is fair to expect is that he at least brings .900 goaltending. We haven't gotten that recently and most NHL backups can provide that.
Overall? Yah, Tokarski, Condon and Scrivens are in the same class of goaltending but one is more experienced, knows he's a journeyman and is getting a fresh start. The other two probably feeling the pressure.
We forget that Price is a special goalie sometimes in terms of the market.
You gotta think a rookie goalie like Condon is aware of the heat on the team, aware that his play has dropped off and aware that it doesn't look good on his resume.
Again, Scrivens can be a bust but as long as he provides .900+ it's better than what the other two are providing. Will it solve our goal scoring? Probably not. There's an outside chance that a fresh face might give the team some confidence but apart from that, Scrivens wasn't acquired for goals.
At this point, it's like MT requested. A goalie with more experience, he's getting it and the price is minimal. For the anti-MT crowd this is the first step isn't it? The GM is admitting there's an issue. If we keep losing then MT can no longer use this reason.
WeThreeKings
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What the hell are you doing LL? You should know better than to bring common sense into a discussion like this.
Personally I'm still on the fence with this trade. I don't mind adding Scrivens, since it allows Tokarski to go back to the AHL. I don't like the idea of trading Kassian at his lowest point. I would have let Kassian go down to St.John's to prove himself. While trying to see if I could move someone else to obtain Scrivens or someone similar to him.
weedersson
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I guess MB is trying one more time with a goalie from the Oilers. We could've had Dubnyk as a starter, but we treated him like a bag of pucks.
LaP
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sampollock
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Hope he doesn't plan on using the Oilers mask just behind him.
Actually. That would be fitting to the way the team is playing lately.
I hope he wears a Habs jersey, his Oilers mask, LA trapper and blocker, and Leafs pads.
habfaninvictoria
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No it didnt
We scored 13 goals in the 11 1/2 periods following Gallaghers injury before Therrien shuffled the lines for no reason.
People want to win, not keep losing. I doubt Scrivens is the solution.
Price couldn't even keep a .500 record last year when we had the same issues scoring 1-2 goals. I doubt Scrivens will be the saviour. I mean, he can pull a Hamburglar, you can always be lucky. That's not a winning strategy though.
Would be like having a career plan that revolves around winning the lotto.
Frankenheimer
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Is Scrivens the guy that went on that big hot streak last year? Or is that another Leaf third stringer I'm thinking of?
OnTheRun
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Scrivens wasn't a Leafs last year. (Bernier was their guy during the hot streak.)
Maffew
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Not sure Scrivens career numbers are proof of anything. He played with two of the most utterly garbage teams of this decade in the Leafs and Oilers.
2011–12 TOR 4-5-2 3.13 .902
2012–13 TOR 7-9-2 2.69 .915
2013–14 LAK 7-5-4 1.97 .931
2013–14 EDM 9-11-0 3.01 .916
2014–15 EDM 15-26-11 3.16 .890
Anomalies, anyone? He apparently does quite well under good defensive systems.
I can't promise that he'll do well as a full-time starter, but maybe for a stretch of games long enough to get our real starter back...
2011–12 TOR 4-5-2 3.13 .902
2012–13 TOR 7-9-2 2.69 .915
2013–14 LAK 7-5-4 1.97 .931
2013–14 EDM 9-11-0 3.01 .916
2014–15 EDM 15-26-11 3.16 .890
Anomalies, anyone? He apparently does quite well under good defensive systems.
I can't promise that he'll do well as a full-time starter, but maybe for a stretch of games long enough to get our real starter back...
Heres a sample of our "good defensive work" in this 1-10-0 stretch.
Alone in the home plate area? check
Allowed to dangle at the lip of the crease uncontested? check check check
Alone in the high slot? Check check
Unhindred cross-slot passes to open players? check
Attackers sitting behind the D at 5v5? check
2 on 0's? check
WeThreeKings
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Heres a sample of our "good defensive work" in this 1-10-0 stretch.
Lmao I like that pic.
Also, every goalie does good behind a good defensive system. What kind of an argument is that.
Winter Eclipse
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I imagine it's along the lines of "Therrien is a great coach when he has the first goaltender in NHL history to win the Hart, Jennings, Vezina, and Lindsay trophies in the same season on his team".
Dumb move I think we're ok on on D if we use the 8 dmen that we have smartly. Should have kept kassian for the 4th line right winger and pick up Simmonds in a trade for our 2nd line rt winger. Get rid of DD and put back Eller as 3rd line center.
Patches Pleks Gallagher
Carr galchenyuk Simmonds
Flash Eller Weise
Ghetto Mitchell kassian
That looks pretty good.
Patches Pleks Gallagher
Carr galchenyuk Simmonds
Flash Eller Weise
Ghetto Mitchell kassian
That looks pretty good.
