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I would say Crosby is pretty clearly the best player in the league.
He is now.
I would say Crosby is pretty clearly the best player in the league.
He is now.
I have no idea who it was, I wish I could remember. But wasn't there a suspension that year that involved stomping. The verdict being that it may not have been intentional, but it was reckless so a suspension was given. If that being the case, then maybe Cooke did deserve a suspension whether the play was intentional or not.
Skinner maybe? Or a Canuck. I'm drawing a huge blank.
Karlsson is not better than Crosby. He's probably the best D-man in the league, but he's not better than Crosby.
Even 24 hours later, it still stings more than some of the all time Sens lows.
Where does this rank for the rest of you?
Even 24 hours later, it still stings more than some of the all time Sens lows.
Where does this rank for the rest of you?
I think that the two were close enough (skill wise) where you could at least start a debate about it. Crosby still holds the edge in accomplishments and such, but I think we were getting to the point where you could start a conversation about whether Karlsson was in Crosby's league.
My point was, now that he's hurt, there's no longer a debate.
1. Game-7 loss to New Jersey.
2. 4 years of losses to the Leafs.
3. Finals loss to Anaheim.
4. Losing Chara.
5. This
Even 24 hours later, it still stings more than some of the all time Sens lows.
Where does this rank for the rest of you?
Good list but I'd throw in the Hasek injury that I still believe killed our best chance to win a cup.
I think you're right Johan, I didn't see a stomp more of a sort of trying to get his footing back, and go after the puck when you look at it in real time, I think he had his foot up to get more of a complete check, with less focus on him trying to put the foot down of pin him. Keep in mind, Karlsson had a good beat on him, so cook was trying to check from the side to avoid boarding, or like you said, it may have been him just being an idiot.
I will never defend cooke on the stance that he is a smart person, but his intentions have clearly changed from that of a dirty player, to someone who has really tried to make a name for himself as a cleaner hockey player.
I like your point about saying not knowing when to ease off, because honestly, i think he was just trying to keep the pace up. The argument that he did all of this on purpose, or had intention to harm may have been more applicable if the penguins had all but lost, or were getting blown out. However this was an extremely tight checking game, and it isn't like a goon to start attacking players in that situation.
If thats all you got from my post, you're feeding into the old matt cooke vs the new matt cooke, and like i said, he's known more for his hits to the head, then trying to attack a player with his skates. I think ottawa fans should be more upset no whistle was blown when the puck went into the netting. none of this would have even happened.
Regardless, you guys will come to your own conclusions, i just felt for conversations sake that you should here a non-sens fans perspective. And I hope i don't seem too much of a homer by defending cooke. This is the first time he's deserved someone defending his case.
I think equating drugs to the way someone plays Hockey is a little extreme of a metaphor, especially dealing with this situation. Honestly, the guy changed his game 100% and proved he was a better player than just a guy that took cheap shots at people. It's pretty arrogant to think he would throw that away to take a shot at a player during a regular "mid" season game that isn't even divisional, and he had no beef with.
I understand the frustration you guys are having over this, but Jesus, it's like you want to string the guy up after he's been deemed innocent by everyone in the league that matters.
That was a weird one, because the implications weren't immediately obvious. We kept thinking he'd be back until the playoffs arrived and he didn't come back. There was no real "oh ****" moment there.
True enough but I'm sure we can agree that, in retrospect, it's possibly the worst thing to ever happen to this franchise. That 2005-2006 team was easily the most talented group we've ever iced.
Would you like to tell that to Marc Savard and all of the other players Cooke has taken cheap shots at. Look buddy this is *$%$%& Matt Cooke we are talking about 'nuff saidThis isn't even a matter of changing or not changing. The leap from throwing questionable hits to making the decision to slash someone's achilles with a blade is gigantic. I don't believe that Cooke at any point in his career was insane enough to actually do that on purpose.
This isn't even a matter of changing or not changing. The leap from throwing questionable hits to making the decision to slash someone's achilles with a blade is gigantic. I don't believe that Cooke at any point in his career was insane enough to actually do that on purpose.
What doess it take to get this SOB out of hockey alltogether.
Your a homer if you call crosby the best.
In honesty. I don't think he went in thinking "lets cut the back of his leg open".