TSN: Kadri: "The confidence is there"

[Mess]

With Kadri working out off the ice this year it should translate to positive improvement on the ice with higher totals.

 

[Joey Hoser]

With Kadri working out off the ice this year it should translate to positive improvement on the ice with higher totals.

#1 PP time and not being anchored by Clarkson for most of the year is what will help him the most in terms of totals. It's everything else that should benefit from a better offseason.

 

[Banic]

#1 PP time and not being anchored by Clarkson for most of the year is what will help him the most in terms of totals. It's everything else that should benefit from a better offseason.

I had no idea Clarkson was the #1 (or even 2nd most) person he played with last year. Funny how his stats didn't improve after Clarkson was traded.

 

[Snow Dog]

I had no idea Clarkson was the #1 (or even 2nd most) person he played with last year. Funny how his stats didn't improve after Clarkson was traded.

The rest of his linemates were 3rd liners,or so I hear.

 

[Menzinger]

Well, his most consistent winger was Winnik (a 3rd/4th liner before coming to the Leafs) AND scoring was down team wide, particularly during he latter half of the season.

It's the "one size fits all" fallacy that still runs rampant on HF.

The TKO line was the highest scoring line in both the regular season and playoffs and is actually good defensively too. I really hope we can form our own TKO line with any combination of Kadri, Nylander, Brown, Kapanen, Marner etc...

And like you said, there's definitely more than one way to win in the league.

Yep. I'll never understand that line of thought. A team with three top six centres is better than a team with two .

 

[tml19]

The rest of his linemates were 3rd liners,or so I hear.

Do you not consider Santo,Winnik,Panik,Clarkson as 3rd liners? The only decent player he gots some decent ice time with was Lupul.

 

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His confidence has always been there, he is a legend in his own mind. That being said...It will be the same old bottom 6 performance from him.

 

[Snow Dog]

Do you not consider Santo,Winnik,Panik,Clarkson as 3rd liners? The only decent player he gots some decent ice time with was Lupul.

I'll give,you're probably right.
After taking a good look at last years roster no wonder we did crappy.The Leaf's would have been lucky to build a second line and second pairing D on a good team.And with 2 back-up goalies the team was doomed from the start.

 

[mikebel111*]

His confidence has always been there, he is a legend in his own mind. That being said...It will be the same old bottom 6 performance from him.

Kadri is a good player. Silly critics who have always been a problem
No wonder managment loves him
#beauty

 

[Leafs97]

Is Nazem Kadri worth a long term contract if he puts up good numbers this year?

Hey guys. Here's my view on the kadri situation. He's been inconsistent throughout his NHL career. He hasn't put up elite numbers at the nhl (besides the lockout shortened season). But if he has one good year and then he has the opportunity to "take us to the bank" as Babcock says.. Wouldn't that go against the whole new Regimes idea of not signing bad contracts? I don't buy that he will put up great numbers (60+ points) every year for 7 years.. So why offer him a 6 or 7 year deal at $7mill? I think if he puts up good numbers this year, sign him to a 3 or maybe 4 year deal

 

[Drew311]

I wouldn't go over 3 years with Kadri. Seems like the type of guy that would get complacent. He's been talking a lot lately about changing his attitude/work ethic, but I wouldn't trust a word he says until we see the proof.

 

[Tripod]

You have nothing to worry about. He won't get 7 million regardless if his point totals. As you said, he has not been consistent enough for that type of money.

 

[ShameOnYouZidlicky]

I expect he'll get Tavares money (5.5/year) if he has a good season, which will further add to his delusions of him being as good as Tavares.

 

[Purity*]

I'll give,you're probably right.
After taking a good look at last years roster no wonder we did crappy.The Leaf's would have been lucky to build a second line and second pairing D on a good team.And with 2 back-up goalies the team was doomed from the start.

Carlyle had us in a playoff spot halfway through the season but we all know how the prior season ended up going so I don't know if I'd put too much into that

His confidence has always been there, he is a legend in his own mind. That being said...It will be the same old bottom 6 performance from him.

This is why Kadri gets unfairly criticized.

Last year was the only time you could interpret his play as a "bottom 6 performance" (that's even debateable). Prior 2 years he put up very good top-6 numbers.

 

[Menzinger]

It doesn't have to be a 7 for 7 type deal. He Leafs are in a pretty strong negotiating position - though they will likely seek to pay for potential.

If he has a strong season, I can see him getting in the 5-6.5 million per range for a 5ish year long deal. I think that's a fair deal (again, assuming he has a good year - which I think he will).

 

[hamzarocks]

You have nothing to worry about. He won't get 7 million regardless if his point totals. As you said, he has not been consistent enough for that type of money.

he had a 50 pt year, had 44 in 48 so around 65-75 pts, and 39pts( would be around 45 pts) if he played full year). He is comparable to ror production wise except he has played less seasons and on a worse team. If he can play a two way game contributing 60ish points he will get 6 plus millon, possible 7. However im hoping he gives us a discount and signs for 5.5 for 7 years.

 

[13pacheco31]

I expect he'll get Tavares money (5.5/year) if he has a good season, which will further add to his delusions of him being as good as Tavares.

If you actually read the quote he said he thinks he can be comparable to tavares at some point if he puts in work. Nowhere did he ever say he was as good or better than tavares like everyone always says.

 

[Tripod]

he had a 50 pt year, had 44 in 48 so around 65-75 pts, and 39pts( would be around 45 pts) if he played full year). He is comparable to ror production wise except he has played less seasons and on a worse team. If he can play a two way game contributing 60ish points he will get 6 plus millon, possible 7. However im hoping he gives us a discount and signs for 5.5 for 7 years.

What Kadri has is 1 season over 45 points....and it was 50 points.
ROR has 3 seasons of 55 points or more...with one being 64 points.

And yes he had a good lockout year but has so far shown that it was an son only and cannot come close to it during a full season. And you ignored ROR shortened lockout year...a 56 point pace which he has shown he can do and multiple times.

ROR has also finished high in Selke voting and can play C and LW both well.

I think he gets a 4 year deal at 5 million.

 

[Nithoniniel]

If you actually read the quote he said he thinks he can be comparable to tavares at some point if he puts in work. Nowhere did he ever say he was as good or better than tavares like everyone always says.

His point was mostly that Tavares has great talent, but what makes him so special is his work ethic and dedication on top of that talent.

I found it rather obvious, but people really seem to go out of their way to misunderstand others nowadays so not surprised that it's got twisted into the "I'm just as good as Tavares"-narrative.

 

[Pyrophorus]

He's just so all over the place.

He does well, when the team does well...otherwise, not as great.
Just like many others, he's on a try out.

 

[RyanOhReally]

I'd say a Brassard contract is around what he'd get

 

[Mats13]

I had no idea Clarkson was the #1 (or even 2nd most) person he played with last year. Funny how his stats didn't improve after Clarkson was traded.

This team was a hot mess last season, nobody had good stats

The rest of his linemates were 3rd liners,or so I hear.

Well they were... Winnik, Santa, Clarkson. Oh and he even played with Orr when Carlyle was being Carlyle.

 

[Suntouchable13]

he had a 50 pt year, had 44 in 48 so around 65-75 pts, and 39pts( would be around 45 pts) if he played full year). He is comparable to ror production wise except he has played less seasons and on a worse team. If he can play a two way game contributing 60ish points he will get 6 plus millon, possible 7. However im hoping he gives us a discount and signs for 5.5 for 7 years.

Sorry, if you give a player like Kadri 6-7 mil a year, you're in trouble.

 

[SprDaVE]

No more excuses for Kadri. Brand new management, coaching staff and a fresh outlook of the team.

I'm not saying he has to put up a PPG or show that he's a true #1 center, because that's incredibly doubtful that he can do that, but he really needs to prove that he can be a consistent offensive center and outplay his current counterparts.

 

[Gary Nylund]

It doesn't have to be a 7 for 7 type deal. He Leafs are in a pretty strong negotiating position - though they will likely seek to pay for potential.

If he has a strong season, I can see him getting in the 5-6.5 million per range for a 5ish year long deal. I think that's a fair deal (again, assuming he has a good year - which I think he will).

Sounds about right.