TSN: Justin Schultz - 3.675 / 1 year deal

[40oz]

We have 0 players left to sign and nobody of note available with approximately 4 million in space. Unless we are trading for big contract i think its irrelevant.

It's relevant when discussing any possible acquisitions, like a 2C at some point.

 

[tempest2i]

High TOI on the Oilers though that was more due to organizational ineptitude rather than Schultz actually proving to be a top-level defenceman.

It's probably worth noting here that J.Schultz and Petry led the team in TOI and were separated by 52 seconds last season. And both guys have an AAV that starts with a 3.

It's not the end of the world.

 

[joestevens29]

Don't mind it.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

It's relevant when discussing any possible acquisitions, like a 2C at some point.

If we are acquiring players via trade... i'm guessing we will be moving some money out as well.

I know its always possible to acquire players using our prospects and picks but usually if you get a player like a 2C your giving an NHL player/contract as well. So i'm not concerned.

 

[Up the Irons]

I think a one year is pretty ballsy on Schultz's part. 82 games is not a long time to prove you are an allstar. Hope he does it. It will mean the Oil have a good PP and he's improved his OZ play.

 

[Paralyzer008]

I guess we're paying Schultz more than he's worth, but we're only locked in for a year. Shows MacT wants results ASAP.

Weird deal though.

 

[Digger12]

It's not exactly a cap friendly deal for the team, but it's also not a home run for Schultz's camp either.

It's called a compromise, and given the situation it's a deal that makes sense for both sides.

Now to camp...it's almost here, can't wait!

 

[bone]

after this we should still have between 4-5 Million is space, thats alot of wiggle room during the season

That tightens up significantly if either of Yak or Draisaitl start hitting their bonus'.

As the Oilers' season is pretty dependent on how they fare, if the Oilers are a good team this year, they may be flirting with the cap. If they suck again, they'll probably have space.

I've got them currently at 4.2M cap space with 23 players signed, with 5.5M in potential bonus' (assuming I've pegged the appropriate players making the team). Using the bonus cushion of 7.5% they end up with about 3.9M in space but if they used it, without demoting at least Draisaitl or being certain that the bonus' won't be hit, they are facing some risk.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

That tightens up significantly if either of Yak or Draisaitl start hitting their bonus'.

As the Oilers' season is pretty dependent on how they fare, if the Oilers are a good team this year, they may be flirting with the cap. If they suck again, they'll probably have space.

I've got them currently at 4.2M cap space with 23 players signed, with 5.5M in potential bonus' (assuming I've pegged the appropriate players making the team). Using the bonus cushion of 7.5% they end up with about 3.9M in space but if they used it, without demoting at least Draisaitl or being certain that the bonus' won't be hit, they are facing some risk.

I don't think their bonuses count against this year's cap regardless.

 

[bone]

I don't think their bonuses count against this year's cap regardless.

Correct, this year is not the concern if bonus' are hit. It's next year. If we have the cap space this year to cover the bonus', they are covered by this year's space. If the Oilers go over due the cap to bonus', they are penalized that amount out of next year's cap. If all goes well, next year, they hope to be augmenting for a playoff run and as such any hit to next year's cap would be a bigger deal than accounting for it in this year's cap.

All in all, it's not a huge risk, but a risk nonetheless.

 

[Moose Coleman]

That tightens up significantly if either of Yak or Draisaitl start hitting their bonus'.

As the Oilers' season is pretty dependent on how they fare, if the Oilers are a good team this year, they may be flirting with the cap. If they suck again, they'll probably have space.

I've got them currently at 4.2M cap space with 23 players signed, with 5.5M in potential bonus' (assuming I've pegged the appropriate players making the team). Using the bonus cushion of 7.5% they end up with about 3.9M in space but if they used it, without demoting at least Draisaitl or being certain that the bonus' won't be hit, they are facing some risk.

So what you're saying is, if the Oilers use all their cap space, they won't have any cap space left.

 

[AlowlyMcOilersfan]

glad it's finally done

 

[CornKicker]

fair deal from both sides, the last half of last season schultz showed definite improvement. he probably feels like with the addition of fayne, nikitin and the removal or garbagekov, potter, fraser, larsen etc etc he has a better chance to put up better numbers both offensively and defensively. smart play for one year. MacT wants him long term and this is the quickest way to get there. im not concerned with the cap, these things always find a way to work out, chicago and boston have been cap flirting for years. as long as the team is producing wins the cap is irrelevant.

 

[LTIR]

We actually are getting close to a cap team now.

well its about time we spent close to cap. Katz has been enjoying the ELC caphit number these past years to mask the lack of actual spending. We still have ~3M to try and upgrade a player for that number 2 C.

 

[CupofOil]

Schultz gonna get PAID after this season now that he finally have some coaching stability, a competent coach in Ramsay to help guide him and a bit more protection in the lineup with Fayne and Nikitin. I think it was a mistake to not get him locked up now but I guess we'll see.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Correct, this year is not the concern if bonus' are hit. It's next year. If we have the cap space this year to cover the bonus', they are covered by this year's space. If the Oilers go over due the cap to bonus', they are penalized that amount out of next year's cap. If all goes well, next year, they hope to be augmenting for a playoff run and as such any hit to next year's cap would be a bigger deal than accounting for it in this year's cap.

All in all, it's not a huge risk, but a risk nonetheless.

Not really, because there's almost a 0% chance there's a $69M cap next season.

 

[s7ark]

Finally. I could care less about the dollar amount on a 1 year deal. Hopefully Schultz can prove himself deserving of the big raise he's looking for this season.

Now we'll see if MacT adds another C like Loktionov or if this is the team we're heading into camp with.

[MOD]

 

[chris11inter]

Mac T:
"Schultz is a GREAT player " ???

Mac T:
"One of the greatest moments in franchise history"


Come on Maaaaaaaan

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Mac T:
"Schultz is a GREAT player " ???

Mac T:
"One of the greatest moments in franchise history"


Come on Maaaaaaaan

Recent, geez. Don't misrepresent the quote, people do that enough already. FFS.

 

[McGoMcD]

Well its on Schultz to have a big year and demand bit long term bucks. Personally I wanted long term, but I don't know. I get the feeling Schultz is the kind of guy who might need the kick in the ass of a one year deal, kind of like Del Zotto.

 

[s7ark]

Mac T:
"Schultz is a GREAT player " ???

Mac T:
"One of the greatest moments in franchise history"


Come on Maaaaaaaan

It's just lip service. Does it really matter?

 

[chris11inter]

Recent, geez. Don't misrepresent the quote, people do that enough already. FFS.

Sorry !!

I am not misrepresenting that he just said Schultz has Norris Trophy potential!

 

[Joey Moss]

Schultz gonna get PAID after this season now that he finally have some coaching stability, a competent coach in Ramsay to help guide him and a bit more protection in the lineup with Fayne and Nikitin. I think it was a mistake to not get him locked up now but I guess we'll see.

Agreed. Keeping Petry and Schultz is going to be tough.

 

[bone]

Not really, because there's almost a 0% chance there's a $69M cap next season.

True. But by next year we will have almost fully phased out the real big rookie bonus contracts (assuming a non-top 3 pick in next year's draft and Leon excepted), so I'm sure the team wants to be ready to go all in and be a cap team and not worry about insuring themselves against potential bonus'.

If they have a couple million in penalties to pay off, it puts them at a slight disadvantage against the other teams spending to the cap. Minor still as it likely would only be a couple percentage points of the cap, but that may be all it would take to outbid another team on a free agent that could be willing to come.

Also, if Nail hits these bonus', he's looking at minimum $6M like the other golden boys. They need to be ready to absorb that.

 

[Smart Dunsparce*]

Sorry !!

I am not misrepresenting that he just said Schultz has Norris Trophy potential!

how is that seen as a negative? I sure hope he has a norris calibre season.