Prospect Info: Josh Brook

[bleuetbio]

Maybe I'm overvaluing him, but his hockey IQ is through the roof.

well, it depends what means through the roof. I believe the guy is worthing a 17-23rd OV pick for now. Definitly our better strike theses days. I dont give him credits too often, but great call by Grant McCagg

 

[FrankMTL]

If Brook can become a solid top pairing defencemen for us, I will be thrilled. He has all the tools and now seems to be putting them together.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Next year will be the real big test.

Im rarely enthused by D+2 stats as an overager.

If it's in a men's league, then it's different.

He'll be a lock if he can translate this to the A next year.

 

[FrankMTL]

Next year will be the real big test.

Im rarely enthused by D+2 stats as an overager.

If it's in a men's league, then it's different.

He'll be a lock if he can translate this to the A next year.

Well he's not really an overager...he's 19. He's not turning 20 till June.

 

[montreal]

But, at the camp, before he was cut, it's honestly his defensive plays that stood for me, he didn't take offensive chances that much (understandably), but for the short time he was there, I thought he was one of the best D we had, his positioning was on point, and damn I loved his stickwork, he did cut a lot of plays just by precise and timely pokechecks. And he doesn't seem to mind the rough stuff at all,, which is a bonus, he was the only one defending Price at one point when someone crashed in him.

Maybe I'm overvaluing him, but his hockey IQ is through the roof.

I like his defensive game a lot but his offensive game is just so impressive, the way he can rush a puck up ice reminds me of Subban minus the great lower body strength but Brook has time to work on that. Last year he seemed to be better in his own end but this year in the few games I saw he had some mistakes in his own end but had so much confidence in the offensive zone like he could do whatever he wanted and he knew it.

With him and Suzuki I can't wait to see how good they end up being, add in Kotka and you have a great under 20 trio that should be a huge part of our future.

 

[Mrb1p]

I like his defensive game a lot but his offensive game is just so impressive, the way he can rush a puck up ice reminds me of Subban minus the great lower body strength but Brook has time to work on that. Last year he seemed to be better in his own end but this year in the few games I saw he had some mistakes in his own end but had so much confidence in the offensive zone like he could do whatever he wanted and he knew it.

With him and Suzuki I can't wait to see how good they end up being, add in Kotka and you have a great under 20 trio that should be a huge part of our future.

What about McDonagh though? I dont agree with the Subban comparisons because Subban seemed to create mostly on physical traits. Meanwhile Brook does it with a great mix of IQ and speed, like McDonagh.

I didnt get to watch Mcdo at the same age, what do you think?

 

[Mrb1p]

Next year will be the real big test.

Im rarely enthused by D+2 stats as an overager.

If it's in a men's league, then it's different.

He'll be a lock if he can translate this to the A next year.

Hes not an overager, and his production this year really is no joke when you compare him to other CHL defenders in their d+2.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Well he's not really an overager...he's 19. He's not turning 20 till June.

Overager is usually the season the player turns 20. It's usually a player's 4th season.

Check all those boxes for Brook.

Semantics aside, my meaning is that it's easier to dominate in junior hockey when you're 19-20. The real test comes in the first season against men.

 

[Mrb1p]

Overager is usually the season the player turns 20. It's usually a player's 4th season.

Check all those boxes for Brook.

Semantics aside, my meaning is that it's easier to dominate in junior hockey when you're 19-20. The real test comes in the first season against men.

But he dominated at similar pace last year, he just got the shaft on injuries.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

But he dominated at similar pace last year, he just got the shaft on injuries.

Still beside the point. I won't get excited until I see this translate in a men's league.

Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked about the pick. Him and Romanov look like steals.

 

[montreal]

3 assist tonight for Josh. Up to 26 points in 17 games

since returning from the Russian series with Team WHL, in 5 games he has 11 pts and is a +11. That's just sick. I'm sure his coach is looking at that and figuring out where he's going to put him on Team Canada in a month. Maybe with Ty Smith?

What about McDonagh though? I dont agree with the Subban comparisons because Subban seemed to create mostly on physical traits. Meanwhile Brook does it with a great mix of IQ and speed, like McDonagh.

I didnt get to watch Mcdo at the same age, what do you think?

Well Subban had high skill and confidence which Brook has, I wasn't really comparing them as players just that his rushes up ice remind me of Subban.

McDonagh's game was much more physical and much less offensive although it's tougher to compare CHLers to NCAA kids. I was told we were really high on McDonagh in his draft year so I got to watch him in the USHS for CDH as well as after drafting him, there are some things to compare but don't really like it. McDonagh looked like a linebacker in the NCAA, Brook is more slender at the same age but I think he's smarter and more skilled.

Overager is usually the season the player turns 20. It's usually a player's 4th season.

Check all those boxes for Brook.

Semantics aside, my meaning is that it's easier to dominate in junior hockey when you're 19-20. The real test comes in the first season against men.

I always consider overager season as the last possible season for a CHLer. So if somehow Brook were to play in the WHL next year that would be his overage season to me. I look at Tyszka, I like him a lot and hope they sign him but with him missing so much time to injury I wonder if they do sign him would they opt to return him to the WHL next year for his overage season? I don't usually like to see us put 20 year olds back in the CHL to play against mostly 17-19 year olds but in his case it might be a good idea.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

since returning from the Russian series with Team WHL, in 5 games he has 11 pts and is a +11. That's just sick. I'm sure his coach is looking at that and figuring out where he's going to put him on Team Canada in a month. Maybe with Ty Smith?



Well Subban had high skill and confidence which Brook has, I wasn't really comparing them as players just that his rushes up ice remind me of Subban.

McDonagh's game was much more physical and much less offensive although it's tougher to compare CHLers to NCAA kids. I was told we were really high on McDonagh in his draft year so I got to watch him in the USHS for CDH as well as after drafting him, there are some things to compare but don't really like it. McDonagh looked like a linebacker in the NCAA, Brook is more slender at the same age but I think he's smarter and more skilled.



I always consider overager season as the last possible season for a CHLer. So if somehow Brook were to play in the WHL next year that would be his overage season to me. I look at Tyszka, I like him a lot and hope they sign him but with him missing so much time to injury I wonder if they do sign him would they opt to return him to the WHL next year for his overage season? I don't usually like to see us put 20 year olds back in the CHL to play against mostly 17-19 year olds but in his case it might be a good idea.

Brook is 100% AHL next year, unless he goes to NHL AND is gonna be 20.

He could be in the A as soon as spring if the Warriors get eliminated quickly as he'll eligible. 2019 is his 20th birthday so he has A access in that year.

Ergo, he's an overager.

 

[FrankMTL]

Overager is usually the season the player turns 20. It's usually a player's 4th season.

Check all those boxes for Brook.

Semantics aside, my meaning is that it's easier to dominate in junior hockey when you're 19-20. The real test comes in the first season against men.

Ya for some reason in my head I had an overager as a player who came back to juniors as a 20 year old

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Ya for some reason in my head I had an overager as a player who came back to juniors as a 20 year old

Well, it's just semantic.

For me it's always been D+2 season and onwards and is usually, for natives, their 4th season.

 

[Mrb1p]

since returning from the Russian series with Team WHL, in 5 games he has 11 pts and is a +11. That's just sick. I'm sure his coach is looking at that and figuring out where he's going to put him on Team Canada in a month. Maybe with Ty Smith?



Well Subban had high skill and confidence which Brook has, I wasn't really comparing them as players just that his rushes up ice remind me of Subban.

McDonagh's game was much more physical and much less offensive although it's tougher to compare CHLers to NCAA kids. I was told we were really high on McDonagh in his draft year so I got to watch him in the USHS for CDH as well as after drafting him, there are some things to compare but don't really like it. McDonagh looked like a linebacker in the NCAA, Brook is more slender at the same age but I think he's smarter and more skilled.



I always consider overager season as the last possible season for a CHLer. So if somehow Brook were to play in the WHL next year that would be his overage season to me. I look at Tyszka, I like him a lot and hope they sign him but with him missing so much time to injury I wonder if they do sign him would they opt to return him to the WHL next year for his overage season? I don't usually like to see us put 20 year olds back in the CHL to play against mostly 17-19 year olds but in his case it might be a good idea.

Fair, as I mentionned, didnt watch McDo pre NHL, but he does look like an awfully similar player in the way he creates offense. He is however, thick as a brick.

 

[montreal]

Brook is 100% AHL next year, unless he goes to NHL AND is gonna be 20.

He could be in the A as soon as spring if the Warriors get eliminated quickly as he'll eligible. 2019 is his 20th birthday so he has A access in that year.

Ergo, he's an overager.

Yes I know but my point is he COULD play in the WHL next year, so I don't consider him an overager if he can still play another year even though he won't he's still eligible. As an example, let's say that Brook gets injured today and is out for the season, so at camp next year the Habs feel he's not ready so they send him back to the WHL, so what season would that be his overage +2?

And the CHL rule doesn't apply for the AHL playoffs, so it doesn't matter that he turns 20, he could have played in the AHL playoffs last year if Laval wasn't the worst team in the league. It's not done often but you can send 18 year olds to the AHL at the end of their CHL season.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Yes I know but my point is he COULD play in the WHL next year, so I don't consider him an overager if he can still play another year even though he won't he's still eligible. As an example, let's say that Brook gets injured today and is out for the season, so at camp next year the Habs feel he's not ready so they send him back to the WHL, so what season would that be his overage +2?

And the CHL rule doesn't apply for the AHL playoffs, so it doesn't matter that he turns 20, he could have played in the AHL playoffs last year if Laval wasn't the worst team in the league. It's not done often but you can send 18 year olds to the AHL at the end of their CHL season.

Well, like I said, it's semantics. I always considered that past their 3rd season in the C, they become overagers.

There's really no true definition out there.

I've heard players of Brook's age been considered as overager before. I've often heard 4th season players being considered so.

I guess the grey zone vs the definition of overager is because Brook has his birthday just after the end of the season, which is the opposite of let's say a player like Jeremiah Addison, who turned 20 at the begining of his 5th season.

I guess it all depends if you consider just 5th season as overager, or both 4th and 5th. I tend to take both as not all players play both.

 

[loudi94]

Moose Jaw Vs. Lethbridge on Sportsnet this afternoon if anyone wants to see him play.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Xxxxx-Weber
Kulak-Brook
Reilly-Juulsen

Trade Petry, Mete, 1st

For

1st pairing LD

 

[Lebowski]

Well, like I said, it's semantics. I always considered that past their 3rd season in the C, they become overagers.

There's really no true definition out there.

I've heard players of Brook's age been considered as overager before. I've often heard 4th season players being considered so.

I guess the grey zone vs the definition of overager is because Brook has his birthday just after the end of the season, which is the opposite of let's say a player like Jeremiah Addison, who turned 20 at the begining of his 5th season.

I guess it all depends if you consider just 5th season as overager, or both 4th and 5th. I tend to take both as not all players play both.

I'm pretty sure the definition of an overager is someone that plays in the CHL at 21... Which isn't Brook's case.

It's not semantics. Overager = over the age of 20.

 

[GHJimmy]

If Brook can become a solid top pairing defencemen for us, I will be thrilled. He has all the tools and now seems to be putting them together.

And he's very mobility! Amazing player.

 

[DAChampion]

Next year will be the real big test.

Im rarely enthused by D+2 stats as an overager.

If it's in a men's league, then it's different.

He'll be a lock if he can translate this to the A next year.

It is extremely unlikely that Bergevin sends Brook to the AHL for development next year.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

It is extremely unlikely that Bergevin sends Brook to the AHL for development next year.

We're already stacked on the right side. Weber, Petry, Juulsen...

 

[Deebs]

Xxxxx-Weber
Kulak-Brook
Reilly-Juulsen

Trade Petry, Mete, 1st

For

1st pairing LD

Will be tough to get a #1 D man with some life left in him unless a team is in cap hell or something. I'd like it to happen though

 

[Cobra Commander]

Will be tough to get a #1 D man with some life left in him unless a team is in cap hell or something. I'd like it to happen though

That package is definitely worth a young stud. We could even add a piece.