Prospect Info: Josh Brook II

[Adam Michaels]

I thought Brook played a much better game overall. Hope he can keep getting better... he needs to make some strides to remain relevant.

Last year, the more the season kept going, the better he was getting. This year, he's looking even better. He's a little bigger and stronger and more physical, which helps him in the defensive zone. He's still real mobile.

He's not far from putting it all together.

 

[Tyson]

I thought Brook played a much better game overall. Hope he can keep getting better... he needs to make some strides to remain relevant.

That's absolutely true...this season is critical for him...he has to keep improving or he will be surpassed quickly.

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

True. Maybe I'm being impatient. He was so great in his last year of junior. As long as he keeps moving in the right direction...

I think he needs better insulation, was hoping guhle would stay.

 

[Mrb1p]

Josh starting to show me what ive seen so much of in the CHL <3 Go get it champ

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

That's absolutely true...this season is critical for him...he has to keep improving or he will be surpassed quickly.

Nah, next season is the critical one since it will be his last year without waiver eligibility.

 

[montreal]

Brook is on pace for 38 pts over 76 games, but it's a very small sample size. He's got 3 pts in the last 4 games and is a +3. He's still got a ways to go as he needs to get stronger especially lower body but have liked that he's showing solid improvement from the start of last year to the end and carried it to this season so far. That said is there some concerns about how smart he is and we need to see him flex his offensive muscle much more as that's what led him to being a career .77 ppg player in the WHL when he's rushing pucks up ice and setting up goals, he's at his best.

 

[Tyson]

I think he was way overhyped by we the fans.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I think he was way overhyped by we the fans.

I never really saw it. I hoped that he could be a future 6 or 7 after development in the AHL but he's nothing special offensively and subpar defensively. Plus he isn't a roadrunner out there

 

[montreal]

everyone develops at different rates but especially for D. Brook has shown a lot of improvement since turning pro, though it's highly disappointing that he's needed to show that much improvement and still be so far from the NHL (imo).

But this is a kid that was a a .77 ppg in the WHL. Name me 2-3 Hab D prospects in the last 20 years that had a career .77 ppg or higher in juniors. Clearly he's very skilled but lack of confidence, strength, etc.. have hampered his development. Right now the points are starting to come and that's very good news for us as we are loaded with D prospects but the more we can hit on the better it means for our future.

 

[Notabaguette]

everyone develops at different rates but especially for D. Brook has shown a lot of improvement since turning pro, though it's highly disappointing that he's needed to show that much improvement and still be so far from the NHL (imo).

But this is a kid that was a a .77 ppg in the WHL. Name me 2-3 Hab D prospects in the last 20 years that had a career .77 ppg or higher in juniors. Clearly he's very skilled but lack of confidence, strength, etc.. have hampered his development. Right now the points are starting to come and that's very good news for us as we are loaded with D prospects but the more we can hit on the better it means for our future.

Weber had those kind of stats, Subban had impressive in OHL and maybe Beaulieu? Weber wasn't a prospect but a hab....not many with those stats. He was a great WHL player and sure looked like NHL bound hope he bounces back to that status

 

[Colezuki]

everyone develops at different rates but especially for D. Brook has shown a lot of improvement since turning pro, though it's highly disappointing that he's needed to show that much improvement and still be so far from the NHL (imo).

But this is a kid that was a a .77 ppg in the WHL. Name me 2-3 Hab D prospects in the last 20 years that had a career .77 ppg or higher in juniors. Clearly he's very skilled but lack of confidence, strength, etc.. have hampered his development. Right now the points are starting to come and that's very good news for us as we are loaded with D prospects but the more we can hit on the better it means for our future.

Not necessarily brook related either, but I expect to here Seattle take one of chariot or edmunson this summer, I think Allen they’ll pass on personally, if that’s the case will need to replace one of them and then the other not long after that

 

[26Mats]

everyone develops at different rates but especially for D. Brook has shown a lot of improvement since turning pro, though it's highly disappointing that he's needed to show that much improvement and still be so far from the NHL (imo).

But this is a kid that was a a .77 ppg in the WHL. Name me 2-3 Hab D prospects in the last 20 years that had a career .77 ppg or higher in juniors. Clearly he's very skilled but lack of confidence, strength, etc.. have hampered his development. Right now the points are starting to come and that's very good news for us as we are loaded with D prospects but the more we can hit on the better it means for our future.

Will be very interesting to see where he's at at the end of the 2021-2022 AHL season - and the 2022 NHL camp in September 2022.

 

[montreal]

Weber had those kind of stats, Subban had impressive in OHL and maybe Beaulieu? Weber wasn't a prospect but a hab....not many with those stats. He was a great WHL player and sure looked like NHL bound hope he bounces back to that status

Beaulieu had a .65 ppg

 

[Halakitlikethat]

Is he another Dietz?

 

[montreal]

Not necessarily brook related either, but I expect to here Seattle take one of chariot or edmunson this summer, I think Allen they’ll pass on personally, if that’s the case will need to replace one of them and then the other not long after that

I would be shocked if they pass on Allen the way it's looking.

 

[Colezuki]

I would be shocked if they pass on Allen the way it's looking.

That’s fair, I just think they swing at a younger goalie but that’s just my opinion.

 

[Tyson]

everyone develops at different rates but especially for D. Brook has shown a lot of improvement since turning pro, though it's highly disappointing that he's needed to show that much improvement and still be so far from the NHL (imo).

But this is a kid that was a a .77 ppg in the WHL. Name me 2-3 Hab D prospects in the last 20 years that had a career .77 ppg or higher in juniors. Clearly he's very skilled but lack of confidence, strength, etc.. have hampered his development. Right now the points are starting to come and that's very good news for us as we are loaded with D prospects but the more we can hit on the better it means for our future.

Brook has improved from the beginning of last season, I just expected him to be ready to show he was very close as early as last season.
If we all remember he had a terrific camp prior to his last WHL season, I simply expected way more as early as last season

 

[montreal]

Is he another Dietz?

Dietz didn't have the skating, mobility, speed of Brook.

 

[montreal]

Brook has improved from the beginning of last season, I just expected him to be ready to show he was very close as early as last season.
If we all remember he had a terrific camp prior to his last WHL season, I simply expected way more as early as last season

but what you expect doesn't matter, it's how they progress and how they end up. If he ends up playing all of next year in Laval but in 2 years ends up being a solid regular for us, it doesn't matter that he took longer then we hoped. For his skill level you would hope that he could get their quicker, he lacked strength and mass last year but there may be IQ concerns that may prevent him from being more then a bottom pairing D, hard to say as we need to see how he does throughout the season.

 

[FloJack]

Josh Brook.

 

[overlords]

Is he another Dietz?

Dietz is tearing it up in the KHL, to be fair.

 

[Tyson]

but what you expect doesn't matter, it's how they progress and how they end up. If he ends up playing all of next year in Laval but in 2 years ends up being a solid regular for us, it doesn't matter that he took longer then we hoped. For his skill level you would hope that he could get their quicker, he lacked strength and mass last year but there may be IQ concerns that may prevent him from being more then a bottom pairing D, hard to say as we need to see how he does throughout the season.

Matters to me

 

[Mrb1p]

Jeff Petry had his first NHL season at 24 years old.

Brook is fine, still the most talented back liner in the prospect pool.

 

[dcyhabs]

Weber had those kind of stats, Subban had impressive in OHL and maybe Beaulieu? Weber wasn't a prospect but a hab....not many with those stats. He was a great WHL player and sure looked like NHL bound hope he bounces back to that status

Beaulieu was under for his career, but over for his last 3 years. Yannick Weber did, but he was in Europe for his early years so it's not a real comparison, he only has two late years and his last year doesn't compare to Subban or Brooks last junior year. Subban was over with 76 points in 56 games his last year, . Weber didn't score much in junior, that's why he wasn't picked in the first round.

Part of the reason for Brooks' high average is that he did not play much during his early years (1 game, 30 games). Pretty much all the high picks have a low scoring year then 3 high scoring years, first year drops the average. His last junior season is pretty close to Subban's, but his AHL record is so much worse.

 

[Sam I Am]

...name me 2-3 Hab D prospects in the last 20 years that had a career .77 ppg or higher in juniors. Clearly he's very skilled but lack of confidence, strength, etc.. have hampered his development. Right now the points are starting to come and that's very good news for us as we are loaded with D prospects but the more we can hit on the better it means for our future.

Vicot Mete had 44 point in 50 games in the OHL. That's .88 ppg.