oilynutz
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- Dec 30, 2007
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2yrs $2.6M would suit me just fine. $1.2M yr1 and $1.4M yr2Hope he gets signed asap for reasonable price and term.
Most of holland’s One year experiments are starting to recently. Even smith is turning it around. Albeit by next week he will probably be brutal again but still.
Next season will be the big test for Holland. Interested to see what he does.
Seriously? I mean, yes, it will be important, but how can you not consider this year the biggest test considering how little he had to work with? Swapped Lucic on the payroll for 19 goals (so far) and basically reconfigured our entire bottom six, and added to our goaltending for a pittance.
Archibald is absolutely someone I want to see re signed. Not gonna be a big point getter, but he plays the game the way that I feel like everyone should, especially bottom 6ers. Absolutely relentless on the puck, never takes a shift off, and adds speed which is an element we're solely missing.
With the horses up front the Oilers arguably couldn't ask for a better bottom 6 line than what Archibald and Sheahan bring 2/3rds of as they're elite PKers who can check top lines and survive. It's been huge for this group.To add to your post, these guys have made our PK one of the best in the league. If the bottom isn’t scoring they have to be good at something and these guys can PK with the best of them. They are starting to come alive in the goal department as well, which could be huge for us down the stretch.
I'd give Archibald a 3 year extension and Sheahan a 2 year extension. Both have been great.
I'd still be very hesitant to give him and Sheahan much of a raise.
They're great on the PK and Archi's style makes him a fan favorite, but they're both still brutal at 5v5. Some of the lowest GF%/xGF%s in the league and pretty close to the worst players on the Oilers at allowing chances against.
I'd like to see both of them back, but with the salary structure on this team, they aren't the type of players you can overpay.
I wonder how much of that is related to QualComp and %Zonestart? To my eye they are very effective 4th liners.I'd still be very hesitant to give him and Sheahan much of a raise.
They're great on the PK and Archi's style makes him a fan favorite, but they're both still brutal at 5v5. Some of the lowest GF%/xGF%s in the league and pretty close to the worst players on the Oilers at allowing chances against.
I'd like to see both of them back, but with the salary structure on this team, they aren't the type of players you can overpay.
They look better depending on the third wheel but I do agree you can't keep overpaying complimentary players.I'd still be very hesitant to give him and Sheahan much of a raise.
They're great on the PK and Archi's style makes him a fan favorite, but they're both still brutal at 5v5. Some of the lowest GF%/xGF%s in the league and pretty close to the worst players on the Oilers at allowing chances against.
I'd like to see both of them back, but with the salary structure on this team, they aren't the type of players you can overpay.
I think a lot of that is due to how horrendous they were for the first two months of the season. When you dig yourself a hole that big it’s hard to recover from, especially when your “peak” isn’t particularly elite or even very good.
It also doesn't help that they basically haven't had an NHL quality player on their LW for pretty much the entire season, so that doesn't help the numbers.
Still, I think we kind of overvalue these guys because it feels like two decades since we've had good 4th line players. They're both on pace to exactly match their scoring from last season. Considering the contracts they got and when they signed them, they really aren't in a position to ask for much of a raise.
I wonder how much of that is related to QualComp and %Zonestart? To my eye they are very effective 4th liners.
I don’t think we will be seeing huge raises. Maybe 250-500K per year more for each of them.
I think the best way to entice them to come back is a little bit of term.
Sheahan came pretty close to not getting a contract this year. A two year deal at $1M per should look pretty tempting to him.
I'd still be very hesitant to give him and Sheahan much of a raise.
They're great on the PK and Archi's style makes him a fan favorite, but they're both still brutal at 5v5. Some of the lowest GF%/xGF%s in the league and pretty close to the worst players on the Oilers at allowing chances against.
I'd like to see both of them back, but with the salary structure on this team, they aren't the type of players you can overpay.