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This will 100% change as soon as whoever adds numbers to the page is told by the team source what number they should add. I’ll bet you fifty bucks Weal doesn’t wear #40 in his first game with the Yotes.
Confirmed with Link: Jordan Weal to AZ for Jacob Graves & 2019 6th Round Pick
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So, he has wheels? Seriously annoyed by the lack of good answers from the Philly-people about him. They are just "ah, terrible give-away, cost us a game". Yeah, there are always terrible give-aways, let's hope he has filled his quota for some games then.
But if he is fast, and works hard, there is hope he can be turned into a good player. With both Grabner and Richardson out- again- someone needs to be a threat on the PK to make the system work. I noticed I wasn't the only one thinking about that, either.
Here's one for hoping they found a gem.
Edit: OK, I see now they complain he lacks top speed. Ok. So not a Power Killer. Well, but at least it's a player...
But if he is fast, and works hard, there is hope he can be turned into a good player. With both Grabner and Richardson out- again- someone needs to be a threat on the PK to make the system work. I noticed I wasn't the only one thinking about that, either.
Here's one for hoping they found a gem.
Edit: OK, I see now they complain he lacks top speed. Ok. So not a Power Killer. Well, but at least it's a player...
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I would much rather shuttle Bunting, Merkley, and Helewka up for the rest of the season to see what we have in those 22/23 year olds in our own system.
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Seems like a good trade to me, getting rid of a contract was arguably worth a 6th in itself now, it was a contract not even been used with Tuscon.
And who knows, perhaps he will grow with the tasks... Hopefully. He must be waveable if he doesn't show anything.
The way this looks guys will get call-ups anyways...
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Not a single one of those guys are a center though. If it were a winger sure.
We had one center on the roster prior to this move. I still want to send out a useless contract like Graves and get another center.
Hell, I'd love to send out Goligoski to someone for a decent center and a pick.
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He will be a UFA and be playing for his next contract, so we can only hope that we will see the best he has to offer. He doesn’t need to follow the typical “pout and underperform so I can get traded” model that most use to get off this team.
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Some good info from The Athletic (requires subscription)
Breaking down the Jordan Weal trade, and whether the Flyers...
While stats aren't everything, for a cheap pickup he seems to bring some skills the Coyotes are sorely lacking, especially zone entry.
Breaking down the Jordan Weal trade, and whether the Flyers...
While stats aren't everything, for a cheap pickup he seems to bring some skills the Coyotes are sorely lacking, especially zone entry.
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Chayka is working the lines as always. Sweet, full of sense move. The Chayka we love.
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Flyers fans seem to have turned on him in a big way and seem to dislike him a lot. Some are admitting it has to do with being disappointed that he didn’t progress offensively following a pretty big burst early on. More to do with expectations than performance in a vacuum. Also having to do with disappointment in team performance and older, depth players impeding opportunities for younger players that fans now have higher hopes for.
Many of us can appreciate the sentiment. My lower expectations are a warm body that doesn’t hurt the team, while we’re ravaged by injuries. My higher expectations are a guy who can prove he’s more valuable than Kempe or Archibald. If he can be more valuable than Cousins, I’ll be very happy.
Cousins and Archibald are a little tougher to play against. Both are basically finished products. Both are basically 10g 10a 4th liners (if used correctly). Weal is basically the same but could possibly have a little more offensive upside (his numbers at lower levels are better than these two) and could possibly prove to be an okay center option with decent FO% and a RHS.
Stickiness:
1. Cousins
2. Archibald
3. Weal (still quite sticky)
Offensive Upside:
1. Weal (still not much)
2. Cousins
3. Archibald
Optionality:
1. Weal
2. Cousins
3. Archibald
Defense/Two-Way Play/Doesn’t Hurt Team: Tied. All just passable.
Many of us can appreciate the sentiment. My lower expectations are a warm body that doesn’t hurt the team, while we’re ravaged by injuries. My higher expectations are a guy who can prove he’s more valuable than Kempe or Archibald. If he can be more valuable than Cousins, I’ll be very happy.
Cousins and Archibald are a little tougher to play against. Both are basically finished products. Both are basically 10g 10a 4th liners (if used correctly). Weal is basically the same but could possibly have a little more offensive upside (his numbers at lower levels are better than these two) and could possibly prove to be an okay center option with decent FO% and a RHS.
Stickiness:
1. Cousins
2. Archibald
3. Weal (still quite sticky)
Offensive Upside:
1. Weal (still not much)
2. Cousins
3. Archibald
Optionality:
1. Weal
2. Cousins
3. Archibald
Defense/Two-Way Play/Doesn’t Hurt Team: Tied. All just passable.
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He's a quick skater who's very good at puck possession. He'll skate all over the offensive zone and always seems to have the puck but the problem is he doesn't have the playmaking or shot to make use of it.
I have a reputation on the Flyers board for being his biggest hater (as a joke, I don't actually hate him) because when he first came to the Flyers from the AHL he played with Giroux and Voracek, scored a ton, and everyone got all excited about him as if we found a hidden gem.... so I ended up being the buzzkill to point out it was a fluke and that he wasn't ever going to be able to replicate that pace. So believe me when I say you got a pretty good deal here. A mere 6th round pick is worth it to see if he can be any kind of useful for you guys. We're just thrilled with the trade because we have so many young players on the verge of making the team and we need spots open for them. Plus, he definitely wasn't getting re-signed, so it's nice to get anything for him, and it's our first sign of life out of Fletcher in a while.
As a comparable from someone who has seen a ton of both, he's definitely better than Cousins.
I have a reputation on the Flyers board for being his biggest hater (as a joke, I don't actually hate him) because when he first came to the Flyers from the AHL he played with Giroux and Voracek, scored a ton, and everyone got all excited about him as if we found a hidden gem.... so I ended up being the buzzkill to point out it was a fluke and that he wasn't ever going to be able to replicate that pace. So believe me when I say you got a pretty good deal here. A mere 6th round pick is worth it to see if he can be any kind of useful for you guys. We're just thrilled with the trade because we have so many young players on the verge of making the team and we need spots open for them. Plus, he definitely wasn't getting re-signed, so it's nice to get anything for him, and it's our first sign of life out of Fletcher in a while.
As a comparable from someone who has seen a ton of both, he's definitely better than Cousins.
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You know Cousins takes a shit ton of heat around here, but i dont think i have ever seen a Coyote with better board battles than him. His edge work and puck posession is fantastic in tight quarters and is usually good for a drawn penalty every other game or so.
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I do too.
But if we can get a center, say like a 2012 Boyd Gordon for that line and move Cousins to the wing, I would be much happier.
OR if we can get 2 more top 9 centers our leading goal scorer can return to his 4th line once healthy
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