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Confirmed with Link: Jonathan Dahlen to San Jose for Linus Karlsson (87th overall 2018)
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LickTheEnvelope
Time to Retool... again...
Karlsson is also very young still. 19-22 can be a big growth time. Dahlen is probably going to peak out in the next 2 years.
Likely Karlsson will be the worse offensive player but you never know.
CloutierForVezina
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Unless I'm mistaken, he's not playing in the SHL. He's playing in the Allsvenskan.
Dahlen was junk. Slow, small, soft perimeter player who was useless in the AHL at ES. Pretty clear why Ottawa bailed and why that Burrows deal was nowhere near as good as it was made out to be.
I know nothing about Linus Karlsson. Stats don’t look great, seems to have some jam to his game as he’s leading his team in PIM as a teenager. Hopefully he can skate.
Re-cycling Dahlen into a younger prospect not a bad move at all.
I know nothing about Linus Karlsson. Stats don’t look great, seems to have some jam to his game as he’s leading his team in PIM as a teenager. Hopefully he can skate.
Re-cycling Dahlen into a younger prospect not a bad move at all.
Addison Rae
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If this is true... and I have to assume you have enough knowledge of the two players... then I'm ok with the deal. I'll take a player who has the potential to let his talent define the role rather than being limited to one role by his talent.
Gotta go with Gradin on this one... I don't know any better. And, he clearly has earned some deference.
I mean.... we did though. Kesler was sold almost immediately, Bieksa got a far better return than anyone would've opened for. Hansen was sold after completing a 22 goal season, Burrows was already past his peak by the time Benning got here, and I'm fully happy with him being there to help pass along the culture to players like Bo. And given how plainly reluctant Hamhuis was willing to waive at the deadline, it's unlikely he would've wanted to uproot and leave midway through his contract.
He played 13 games in the SHL last season, he's in the Allsvenskan now because his team got relegated.
thefeebster
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I don't like this one as much. But minority opinion, I still believe Dahlen can improve and make something of himself.
Is it? It's not like he was a regular in the SHL.
64 players Karlsson's age and younger played SHL games last season. Most aren't legitimate NHL prospects.
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Peter Griffin
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This is kinda like what they did when they jettisoned Shinkaruk instead this time around they targeted a younger player in return. I’m ok with this.
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We didn't sell those guys at peak value. Simple as that. Benning waited and let their value diminsh.
FYI Hamhuis said he would have been willing to waive in the offseason if the Canucks asked.
Verbalyst
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Dahlen was playing with generational player in Sweden. We have no context to what role Linus Karlsson plays. I'll reserve my judgment until I learn more about the player.
This is my opinion as well. I don't think Dahlen will ever develop his game into the NHL. I see him as a future Euro league player. Karlsson at least has the potential to be a bottom six guy.
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Yup he's in the Allsvenskan this season. Karlskrona was relegated from the SHL by Timra (Dahlens team) last season, so he did play in the SHL as an 18 yr old.
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We have two scouts that we should give benefit of the doubt to.
Gradin and whoever is overseeing the US minor leagues.
And MS is right, I'd rather see them move on when they still can than try and force something out of a prospect that's clearly busted.
Gradin and whoever is overseeing the US minor leagues.
And MS is right, I'd rather see them move on when they still can than try and force something out of a prospect that's clearly busted.
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Haven't seen Karlsson play this year. But his upside is a defensive center, decent size and has never been scared to go to the net.
Dahlen who in Sweden did all of his work close to net, has looked scared all year and not been close to the net except for on the PP. I thought Dahlen would be a player but this year really soured me on him.
Dahlen who in Sweden did all of his work close to net, has looked scared all year and not been close to the net except for on the PP. I thought Dahlen would be a player but this year really soured me on him.
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CloutierForVezina
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Right, so last year he played 13 games on the worst team in the SHL immediately before they got relegated, and now he's struggling to produce in the Allsvenskan?
Have I got that right? Legitimately trying to figure out the upside on Linus and why I should be excited about him. Getting a cup of coffee in the SHL in his draft year doesn't seem like much of a reason.
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Actually, from what I'd been reading from the Utica fans, Dahlen's uptick evaporated pretty quickly after his concussion, turning him into a timid, perimeter player. There were also questions about his skating.
Don't know much about Karlsson, but he is a bit younger, so he's got some time on his side. Looking at his numbers this year, he's going to need it.
This looks like a terrible trade based on stat watching. Karlsson cant even produce in Allsvenskan. Yikes.
StrictlyCommercial
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I watched one game, so not really much to go on. He was absolutely dominant on a terrible team in Junior last year though. My main concern is that his scoring may have come from using his physical tools, which will not translate as well as pure scoring.
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