John Tortorella rips into Jack Johnson, Jim Rutherford

[Turin]

Small man in small org has small man syndrome. Hard to respect an operation so insecure.

 

[Hockeyholic]

More so off the ice than on the ice. Without Tortorella, I wouldn't think there was that much of a rivalry.

Yeah Torts keeps it alive.

 

[Stopsight]

Torts is the Sean Avery of coaches!

The guys s total nut job

so in this case, Jack is the sloppy seconds?

 

[Craig Button]

so in this case, Jack is the sloppy seconds?

Yes

 

[powerbomb]

I'll admit, when I first read Jack Johnson's comments, I thought that it could be taken as a slight to Columbus. I didn't think that they were malicious but they were a little careless. However, Tortorella's response is (as usual) way over the top. I'm honestly surprised that he has coached in the NHL for as long as he has given his proclivity for non-productive look-at-me rants. If a team is in part a reflection of their coach, why the hell would anyone choose John Tortorella and his emotional man-baby syndrome to build a culture around? If I'm picking I would choose cool, calm and collected ten out of ten times over the exhausting emotional circus this dude hangs his hat on. X's and O's are important, but attitude is, too.

 

[me1ch]

What Jim Rutherford said amounts to an assertion that the Columbus organisation did not treat a player fairly and is not committed to put in the best lineup. The Columbus GM and coach obviously need to assert on record that is false, especially during the free agency period. The style of the retort from Torts is just him being himself, with the reasonable assumption that JJ told JR that.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

Geez, leave it to Torts to blow it out of proportion. What a wack job.

 

[BigGulpsEh]

Don't push Torts. It's the last thing you want to do.

Or else he will have a hissy fit

 

[Mayor Bee]

You call it "baseless speculation" on JR's part, but he didn't say "well, I think I might know what the reason is..." or anything to that point. He straight up said "I know the reason Jack wasn't play." That's not speculation. He's not a person who has a history of lobbing baseless accusations at people, so, yet again, why should we be inclined to believe he would start now?

I think Tortorella's reaction is more telling than anything anyone from Pittsburgh said (JJ or JR)

That's how this works now?

Sweet, I'm about to go making baseless accusations against all sorts of people. And if they react negatively, it's obvious that they're hiding something and therefore it's obviously all true.

This will be fun.

 

[Mayor Bee]

What Jim Rutherford said amounts to an assertion that the Columbus organisation did not treat a player fairly and is not committed to put in the best lineup. The Columbus GM and coach obviously need to assert on record that is false, especially during the free agency period. The style of the retort from Torts is just him being himself, with the reasonable assumption that JJ told JR that.

That makes too much sense to be true. It must be that all these Pens fans actually know the real truth.

 

[IamNotADancer]

Where did JJ " Rip" Columbus? He said it was good to come to a winning organization. Is anything he said incorrect? Are the Pens a winning organization?

Well since JJ himself apologized for how he worded it, I'd say it isn't out of the realm of possibilities to assume one can read this into a "Columbus is an organization with a losing mentality" sort of statement.

But yeah, he apologized and that's that.

That should have been the end of it, but let's ignore the Rutherford jabs and completely rip on Torts since it's the cool thing to do and just jump on the "Torts is crazy" bandwagon.

Torts is a class act and it's just silly to see how certain groups rip on the guy.

 

[Helistin]

Small man in small org has small man syndrome. Hard to respect an operation so insecure.

That's a bit harsh to say about the Penguins. I think they are a good organization.

 

[Turin]

That's a bit harsh to say about the Penguins. I think they are a good organization.

So does Columbus, deep down.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

This just in...whiny coach whines about players that don't care about him and still whines anyway.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I'll admit, when I first read Jack Johnson's comments, I thought that it could be taken as a slight to Columbus. I didn't think that they were malicious but they were a little careless. However, Tortorella's response is (as usual) way over the top. I'm honestly surprised that he has coached in the NHL for as long as he has given his proclivity for non-productive look-at-me rants. If a team is in part a reflection of their coach, why the hell would anyone choose John Tortorella and his emotional man-baby syndrome to build a culture around? If I'm picking I would choose cool, calm and collected ten out of ten times over the exhausting emotional circus this dude hangs his hat on. X's and O's are important, but attitude is, too.

New guy comes to a team that won 2 in the last 3yrs. He's gonna say that sort of thing. Only an idiot turns it into something about him.

Which naturally Torts did. Not surprised. That guy is a moron. Surprised Columbus still has him around to be honest. I thought he already wore out his welcome a while ago.

 

[Claypool]

Surprised Columbus still has him around to be honest.

Columbus is in no position to start firing hall of fame coaches.

 

[Ivan13]

New guy comes to a team that won 2 in the last 3yrs. He's gonna say that sort of thing. Only an idiot turns it into something about him.

Which naturally Torts did. Not surprised. That guy is a moron. Surprised Columbus still has him around to be honest. I thought he already wore out his welcome a while ago.

I assume JR is a saint in your POV?

 

[Nithoniniel]

This seem like a huge overreaction. What Jack Johnson said sounded more like a comment on the Penguins to me. You go to a team that has won three Cups, you comment on their winning culture. That is not an insult to anyone else.

As for Rutherford's comment, I don't get why he would drop some weird hints like that. I'm not a fan of it. It seemed like he just respond to the backlash with "well, there's a reason we like him more than anyone else does." But again, I don't see it as something worth getting bent out of shape for. And Torts really seemed bent out of shape.

 

[Hockeyholic]

That's a bit harsh to say about the Penguins. I think they are a good organization.

They're an irrelevant organization ( Jackets). No fans. No success. Unsure why the four fans they have are here ripping the Pens. Maybe concentrate on winning a playoff round.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Well since JJ himself apologized for how he worded it, I'd say it isn't out of the realm of possibilities to assume one can read this into a "Columbus is an organization with a losing mentality" sort of statement.

But yeah, he apologized and that's that.

That should have been the end of it, but let's ignore the Rutherford jabs and completely rip on Torts since it's the cool thing to do and just jump on the "Torts is crazy" bandwagon.

Torts is a class act and it's just silly to see how certain groups rip on the guy.

Isn't this the same guy who said Malkin & Crosby are " Whiners". And if you're gonna say he was " right", then you can't turn around & say JJ was " Wrong" for what he said.

 

[Tender Rip]

Oh... well.

 

[King In The North]

I didn't think anybody said anything that really warranted that kind of outburst, but I still thought it was hilarious.

Tortorella may be our opponent, but he's been an entertaining one.

Yeah did I miss something Jack Johnson said? It was pretty tame.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Small man in small org has small man syndrome. Hard to respect an operation so insecure.

That's a bit harsh to say about the Penguins. I think they are a good organization.

He was talking about Columbus

 

[Hockeyholic]

Yeah did I miss something Jack Johnson said? It was pretty tame.

He said " I'm glad to go to a winning organization". Now, if he had said:
" It's finally good to be with a winning organization", yeah....I could see them getting upset.

Torts is upset because he thought JJ was indicating Pittsburgh is a better organization. I think Torts knows, deep down, they are a better organization.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Or else he will have a hissy fit

He seems like that drunk guy at a bar who mouths off. Then, when confronted, he'd back down.

Let's not forget that he waited until players were in between him and Hartley, before going after him.