Confirmed with Link: John McDonough Fired

[RememberTheRoar]

What about Seabrook? I want the answer to that one.

Didnt mention it

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

So he wasn't all bad then.

Right thing for the wrong reasons.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Didnt mention it

So either they're being mum about it or it was Stan. I understand that they were going to have to give Seabrook that type of deal if they wanted to keep him, so maybe they just decided to hope he could be an NHL player for longer than actually happened.

I really don't know what else could have been done in 2015 to keep the Hawks competitive.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

So either they're being mum about it or it was Stan. I understand that they were going to have to give Seabrook that type of deal if they wanted to keep him, so maybe they just decided to hope he could be an NHL player for longer than actually happened.

I really don't know what else could have been done in 2015 to keep the Hawks competitive.

Or Zawaski’s source just gave him two recent examples. This wasn’t a full press conference, and there was nothing offered on the Seabrook situation, so I don’t know how you can draw conclusions based on what was said today.

There were three points made:

1. McDonough meddled more in the last few years
2. McDonough blocked Stan from including Hossa in the hjalmarsson deal
3. McDonough forced a Boqvist call-up

Points not made:

1. McDonough ordered Stan to sign the Seabrook deal
2. Stan signed the Seabrook deal on his own
3. The two examples were the only times McDonough meddled
4. McDonough meddled more than the examples given

 

[ClydeLee]

I would of thought it would of looked much shadier had they traded Hossa that soon with his issues announcement. That was before the big NHL doctor investigation check up on him which happened during preseason time that year when Lupul also was checked out after the cofusion with his ltir too.

 

[Brightwing]

He's going to let foley do bad things to him. North Korea type of crap.

Speaking of Foley, how much y'all wanna bet he gets canned in the Danny Wirtz era?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Speaking of Foley, how much y'all wanna bet he gets canned in the Danny Wirtz era?

Doubt he gets let go.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Speaking of Foley, how much y'all wanna bet he gets canned in the Danny Wirtz era?

Replace him with Kendall Coyne

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Replace him with Kendall Coyne

Can we try to get someone who’s actually good at commentating?

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Replace him with Kendall Coyne

get the guy from Carolina

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

John Weideman has paid his dues and he’s fantastic.

 

[Kevin Musto]

get the guy from Carolina

If we're poaching from other teams I want Cangi from Jersey. That dude cracks me up.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Replace him with Kendall Coyne

No thank you

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Zawaski says in that podcast that McDonough absolutely became more of a meddler in hockey ops in the last few years.

Says his sources told him:

1. The Hjalmarsson trade was supposed to include Hossa, McDonough blocked it

2. It was McDonough’s decision to call up Boqvist this year, sounds like he ordered it

This is why Panarin is not still a Blackhawk. Blame McCub.

 

[Mrfenn92]

John Weideman has paid his dues and he’s fantastic.

I like this idea.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

John Weideman has paid his dues and he’s fantastic.

Ya, but does he want the TV broadcast? Some guys like radio better than tv, and Forslund has done tv for a long time.

if weideman wants it, I’d be more than happy to see him get it

 

[Rick C137]

Weidman with Sharp doing color.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Weidman with Sharp doing color.

I like that duo.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Or Zawaski’s source just gave him two recent examples. This wasn’t a full press conference, and there was nothing offered on the Seabrook situation, so I don’t know how you can draw conclusions based on what was said today.

There were three points made:

1. McDonough meddled more in the last few years
2. McDonough blocked Stan from including Hossa in the hjalmarsson deal
3. McDonough forced a Boqvist call-up

Points not made:

1. McDonough ordered Stan to sign the Seabrook deal
2. Stan signed the Seabrook deal on his own
3. The two examples were the only times McDonough meddled
4. McDonough meddled more than the examples given

heard like a month after the Hossa deal that McD "hated it"...so given he blocked the first deal its pretty interesting because the benefits of that deal far exceeded the cost...why would he want all that money on LTIR? risk of recapture or thought it was disrespectful to Hoss?... idk, and he apparently did not want Kruger back, that must've been Stan's call...I also wonder if he's the one that pushed to get Saad back...recall there being some speculation mcd didnt think panarin was a "playoff player"

 

[ClydeLee]

This is why Panarin is not still a Blackhawk. Blame McCub.

There's no way Panarin would be a Blackhawk at this point, at all. Unless he was kept and Toews or Kane was traded

 

[RememberTheRoar]

heard like a month after the Hossa deal that McD "hated it"...so given he blocked the first deal its pretty interesting because the benefits of that deal far exceeded the cost...why would he want all that money on LTIR? risk of recapture or thought it was disrespectful to Hoss?... idk, and he apparently did not want Kruger back, that must've been Stan's call...I also wonder if he's the one that pushed to get Saad back...recall there being some speculation mcd didnt think panarin was a "playoff player"

Ya, now that he’s gone, more people are going to start to dish on him. I feel like the insider leak to Zawaski and the Greenberg report are just the start of many things that will come out over the next few weeks.

Sounds like people were legitimately scared of him, and he was a real dick to the team employees (according to what Zawaski said he’s been told) so I’d expect there are plenty more negative stories to be told.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

There's no way Panarin would be a Blackhawk at this point, at all. Unless he was kept and Toews or Kane was traded

Maybe not, but maybe they could have gotten him to sign up for 8-8.5 long term after his ELC if they had the Hossa money free.

 

[ClydeLee]

Maybe not, but maybe they could have gotten him to sign up for 8-8.5 long term after his ELC if they had the Hossa money free.

But he already signed a month or a couple before that. Sure in a perfectly aware what was gonna happen with the future world it could.

But in that case maybe Panarin wouldn't of taken the steps in the right ways and kept overly playing a differing and waiting for onetimer way he had

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

But he already signed a month or a couple before that. Sure in a perfectly aware what was gonna happen with the future world it could.

But in that case maybe Panarin wouldn't of taken the steps in the right ways and kept overly playing a differing and waiting for onetimer way he had

Did Panarin have a one or 2 year ELC? I forgot. I thought he re-signed during the 16-17 season and was traded that summer after they got swept by Nashville. I also seem to remember Hjalmarsson and Panarin getting traded within a few hours of each other. It's very possible that the nixing of Hossa to AZ directly lead to Panarin getting traded, and that talks with Columbus started when McCub nixed Hossa moving.

 

[BK]

If you are not promoting Weidman then Gary Thorne is the answer.