I think that extends to 2005 when they replaced Forsberg and Foote with Turgeon and Brisebois.
It's been down hill ever since, and most of the moves have been similar cheap stop gaps.
His fingerprints are on this mess too. I didn't hate him as a coach and sure he was interesting to listen to but from the executive side he did more than enough damage.
I am really bummed about today. But Sakic is not mentally challenged. He knows he had to get something for the dead weight. But if no one offers you anything what are you supposed to do? He had give away Iginla. Do you think Mitchell would commanded anything? Colborne? The one that I can't believe us still here is Tyutin. Surely some team would have offered a 7th
It's pointless to argue it, everyone holds their perceptions depending on who your favorite player was. Just like if one is in camp Landeskog or Duchene. Sure nothing can be unequivocally proven so there's always an out in an argument. Who really cares anymore? We are where we are if its Lacroix or Billington or Roy or Sakic's fault doesn't change anything, they are all trash.
It's pointless to argue it, everyone holds their perceptions depending on who your favorite player was. Just like if one is in camp Landeskog or Duchene. Sure nothing can be unequivocally proven so there's always an out in an argument. Who really cares anymore? We are where we are if its Lacroix or Billington or Roy or Sakic's fault doesn't change anything, they are all trash.
what's the vision here, what's the plan?
with good GMs, you can easily see that they have clear vision (and are willing to make moves, have good execution when it comes to fulfilling it etc.). sure they make mistakes along the way. but they have more hits than misses and they learn from their misses.
i'm not seeing that here.
they did avoid some mistakes this past season that they made in the past, but those are mistakes that never should've been made.
That press conference was worse than the deadline tbh, pretty concerning.
If we had more hardcore fans in Denver then they oughta start making some noise and protesting about Sakic outside the arena with signs European football fan style lol.
That press conference was worse than the deadline tbh, pretty concerning.
If we had more hardcore fans in Denver then they oughta start making some noise and protesting about Sakic outside the arena with signs European football fan style lol.
Yeah. Sakic was obviously frustrated judging by that call.
"Quite frankly I don't have to talk to them. They are my players." Well actually you do, because you let their names get dragged through the press for the entire season.
After listening to that crap I am completely done with Sakic. He needs to go. This franchise is badly in need of someone with a clear direction. Sakic is meandering around, doing his best. Not even close to good enough.
Yzerman learned for years under Ken Holland. Sakic must have been rubbing Lacroix's back while he ate honey from a jar or something. Stay on if you want, but move aside. This isn't for you Joe.
Especially true. Feel like he could not have handled it any worse than he did. Duchene seems to be totally done with it all, and I just can't see a guy like that being upset unless it was handled poorly.
GM's that know what they are doing come out and immediately diffuse anything like that. Sutter said it multiple times regarding Phaneuf. Then he gets moved out of the blue.
His fingerprints are on this mess too. I didn't hate him as a coach and sure he was interesting to listen to but from the executive side he did more than enough damage.
I beat this drum as well. I have been a Chicago sports fan since about 1980. All you have to do is look at the trajectory of the major teams in Chicago to see how much it comes down to ownership.
You can identify issues with coaching, GM, players or whatever all you want, but those all trace back to one place. Sustained excellence starts at the top. The Kroenkes' sports teams don't exactly give you confidence that the top is interested in excellence. Once I realized that, (yeah, I'm slow) it was easy to give up Avs season tickets...
I can understand wanting Sakic to be replaced; he's put the Avs in the hole they're in now.
However, I don't understand why the pitchforks are coming out today. I feel as if Sakic had acquired a couple low picks (5th-7th round) for pending UFA veterans, fans would be much happier.
While doing this would make sense - and I'm sure Sakic tried to move some of the team's old baggage - it literally has zero impact on the team positively or negatively.
It's hard to take him serious when he says he wants to get younger and faster when he signed Colborne and Tyutin last July 1st. Seems more like a catch phrase he throws out now that everything turned to ****.
Of course Avs are going to have to get younger and faster when they purge Iginla, Beauchemin, Stuart and so on. Hard to get older and slower.
He's been doing a good job of locking up the core to good contracts (with the exception of Stastny) and getting value for O'Reilly but beyond that this team is just blindly stumbling. Signing the wrong players to, almost always, one year too long contracts have completely derailed this thing and now Duchene's and Barrie's windows are probably wasted here and Sakic have to trade them. Then start from scratch with what? A new vision that's supposed to be much better from the guys that gave us Stuart, Berra, Beauchemin, Iginla, Colborne?
Guess we just have to hope that some of our sleeper picks turn into decent NHLers. Luck > skill.