Jets General Rumour, Trade, Free Agent and Waiver Speculation 15-16 Part IX

[robertocarlos]

Are the Hawks allowed by law to send brown paper envelopes filled with coloured paper to help TNSE with the retained?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Here's the thing about Chicago. They have Panarin signed to a $812.5k cap hit. He has however already earned his $225k roster bonuses and it would be almost impossible for him not to earn the max schedule A bonuses of $850k. If he finishes the year top ten in points (he's currently 7th) he will earn another $1.725M in bonus. (There are other ways he could earn that bonus as well.)TT is still on an ELC as well and could earn bonus money. It seems likely the Hawks will carry a huge bonus overage next year on a flat or falling cap number. This season may really be their last kick at the cat for a couple years. They may have to go all in. That's why Ladd to Chicago makes sense for them. If you're gonna go all in.....go big.

That would also be why they might consider Shaw as part of the return. He is an RFA getting 2 mil and will need at least a small raise.

Edit: Scuderi cleared. They are up to 3 mil cap space today.

 

[sully1410]

We have a premium rental piece here. Lets make sure we fix a problem when we move him. No B or C level prospects who probably never really make it in the NHL. No prospects who cover a position we already have well covered. It is not written in stone that it must be a 1st and a prospect, especially if that prospect is just going to improve the Moose.

Target an A level LHD prospect. If that is too much do 1 for 1, give up the pick. Still too much? Shouldn't be but OK. If it is, add something if necessary. Get a good player who is going to help us win a cup some day.

Don't aim for scraps.

Yup. Totally agree with this. Someone will want him come dad line day...if not Chicago then someone else. We should be able to get a great prospect and a first from someone come deadline day considering the amount of teams that will want/need him.

 

[Koonta]

At this point don't know who Ladd is traded to if he is traded but agree would rather see an area of need come back and hell no to scraps but if he is traded for a first and a prospect wouldn't it be wonderful if it was to a team that is maybe just barely in the playoffs or a few points out and after the trade that team plummets and that first turns out to be a pretty good pick so in addition to our own pretty high pick we get another.....wishful thinking but in this dreadful season wishful thinking is all we have.

 

[fmrdh]

Any interest in Yakupov if the price is low?

Probably a stretch that Edmonton moves him within the conference but since PM has coached in Russia, maybe he could help Yak?

Burmistrov + ?

 

[gbill2004*]

Any interest in Yakupov if the price is low?

Probably a stretch that Edmonton moves him within the conference but since PM has coached in Russia, maybe he could help Yak?

Burmistrov + ?

Burmi + a 3rd for Yakupov. Otherwise I have no interest in Yakupov.

 

[winnipegger]

No Yakupov please.

For the offseason: Does anybody else think we should target one of Edmonton's centers that they want to trade for defence (RNH Draisatl)

I think we absolutely need a offensively talented center to really compete. I like Little and Scheifele, but in my idealized world you have

Ehlers XXXX Little
Connor Scheif Wheeler

as your top 6. If Draisatl or RNH were on the table for Trouba, I would think long and hard about that....

 

[Koonta]

No Yakupov please.

For the offseason: Does anybody else think we should target one of Edmonton's centers that they want to trade for defence (RNH Draisatl)

I think we absolutely need a offensively talented center to really compete. I like Little and Scheifele, but in my idealized world you have

Ehlers XXXX Little
Connor Scheif Wheeler

as your top 6. If Draisatl or RNH were on the table for Trouba, I would think long and hard about that....

well hopefully the way this season is going, we keep Trouba and that XXXX is Matthews.

 

[BigZ65]

No Yakupov please.

For the offseason: Does anybody else think we should target one of Edmonton's centers that they want to trade for defence (RNH Draisatl)

I think we absolutely need a offensively talented center to really compete. I like Little and Scheifele, but in my idealized world you have

Ehlers XXXX Little
Connor Scheif Wheeler

as your top 6. If Draisatl or RNH were on the table for Trouba, I would think long and hard about that....

I doubt they move Draisaitl. I'd think he's nearly untouchable.

 

[Evil Little]

I doubt they move Draisaitl. I'd think he's nearly untouchable.

Great. In two years Friedman can start making up stories about Draisaitl for Hamonic.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

No Yakupov please.

For the offseason: Does anybody else think we should target one of Edmonton's centers that they want to trade for defence (RNH Draisatl)

I think we absolutely need a offensively talented center to really compete. I like Little and Scheifele, but in my idealized world you have

Ehlers XXXX Little
Connor Scheif Wheeler

as your top 6. If Draisatl or RNH were on the table for Trouba, I would think long and hard about that....

Wouldn't do it for RNH but might for Drai.

 

[sully1410]

Wouldn't do it for RNH but might for Drai.

What do you mean you MIGHT? Kid is on a tear and looks to be miles better than Trouba. Might indeed.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

What do you mean you MIGHT? Kid is on a tear and looks to be miles better than Trouba. Might indeed.

Yeah. I might. What do you think I should ask the Oilers to add?

 

[BB88]

Holy crap, that's horrific!



So, they spend a part of the article blowing up Seidenberg in comparison to Trouba, then offer Seidenberg, a prospect, and a 2nd for Trouba, so that we can shore up our prospects with some younger players?

How about we just keep our younger player - y'know, that Trouba guy? They also ignore the fact that they think the Jets are going to be in cap trouble trying to sign Trouba (+ some other RFAs), then proceed to give us a HIGHER cap hit. Seidenberg is also 34 freakin' years old. He'd be the oldest Jet BY FAR.



Terrible, terrible, terrible article.

I just want to say I'm sorry about that, what a awful offer for Trouba

I'm sure he is Sweeneys dream target but definitely not expecting him to get traded to Boston, but I would offer a ton for him.

 

[Ducky10]

Drai is a talent but I don't think he's going to end up miles better than Trouba.

 

[ATLbound]

I like the idea of adding a center for Trouba if we don't win the lottery. But honestly, its a tough spot because I don't think RNH is going to end up much better then Scheifele. Could be pretty close. And right now, IMO Little is better then RNH, although RNH "should" be better then Little eventually. Trouba is just a bit too much to give up for not much of an upgrade IMO.

But for fun, if we get Matthews

Ehlers- Scheifele- Wheeler
Perreault- Matthews- Little
Stafford- Lowry- Armia/ Petan

And if we get 2/3 and just for fun say did Trouba for RNH (which I would not do)

Ehlers- RNH- Wheeler
Perreault- Scheifele- Little
Stafford- Lowry- Puljujärvi/ Laine

Not bad at all, even without adding RNH/ or a center it is still promising for the future.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Any interest in Yakupov if the price is low?

Probably a stretch that Edmonton moves him within the conference but since PM has coached in Russia, maybe he could help Yak?

Burmistrov + ?

Eh. Yakupov doesn't really interest me. His value is pretty low as of right now. I'd do Burmi for Yak straight up, but that's it.

As for the rest of the Oilers, I build around a forward core of McDavid, Hall, Drai, and Eberle. I trade Yakupov and RNH for depth and D, sign some more depth players in the off-season, and go from there.

 

[sully1410]

Yeah. I might. What do you think I should ask the Oilers to add?

McDavid obviously.

 

[sully1410]

I like the idea of adding a center for Trouba if we don't win the lottery. But honestly, its a tough spot because I don't think RNH is going to end up much better then Scheifele. Could be pretty close. And right now, IMO Little is better then RNH, although RNH "should" be better then Little eventually. Trouba is just a bit too much to give up for not much of an upgrade IMO.

But for fun, if we get Matthews

Ehlers- Scheifele- Wheeler
Perreault- Matthews- Little
Stafford- Lowry- Armia/ Petan

And if we get 2/3 and just for fun say did Trouba for RNH (which I would not do)

Ehlers- RNH- Wheeler
Perreault- Scheifele- Little
Stafford- Lowry- Puljujärvi/ Laine

Not bad at all, even without adding RNH/ or a center it is still promising for the future.

I don't now about anyone else....but I'm getting tired of being promising for the future.

 

[cbcwpg]

Any interest in Yakupov if the price is low?

Probably a stretch that Edmonton moves him within the conference but since PM has coached in Russia, maybe he could help Yak?

Burmistrov + ?

Get rid of the "+" besides Burmistrov and we have a deal, no question.

Burmistrov - 249-28-41-69 ( 24 years old 16/17 - $1.6MM )
Yakupov - 228-46-56-102 (22 years old 16/17 - $2.5MM)

IMO this is the last season you will see Burmistrov with the Jets. He came back, they tried it for a year. Not saying Yakupov would work out better, but the potential is still there and for $900,000 more per season, I would take a chance on that one season to see if you can make him into a player. If it doesn't work out with Yak, so be it, but it would still be worth it to try, if the cost was just Burmi.

 

[garret9]

I like the idea of adding a center for Trouba if we don't win the lottery. But honestly, its a tough spot because I don't think RNH is going to end up much better then Scheifele. Could be pretty close. And right now, IMO Little is better then RNH, although RNH "should" be better then Little eventually. Trouba is just a bit too much to give up for not much of an upgrade IMO.

But for fun, if we get Matthews

Ehlers- Scheifele- Wheeler
Perreault- Matthews- Little
Stafford- Lowry- Armia/ Petan

And if we get 2/3 and just for fun say did Trouba for RNH (which I would not do)

Ehlers- RNH- Wheeler
Perreault- Scheifele- Little
Stafford- Lowry- Puljujärvi/ Laine

Not bad at all, even without adding RNH/ or a center it is still promising for the future.

1,2,3 C all same age haha. Wonder how often in NHL history that would have ever happened.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Edmonton winning the lottery does create some interesting trade options for them with McDavid, Matthews, RNH, and Draisaitl. I don't think they're going to get value for RNH, but the others are interesting.

I wonder if they'd opt to trade Matthews in that position, not wanting to pay two superstars in 3 years. If we picked in the 4th slot, would Trouba be enough to switch spots? Plus Petan?

I'd certainly consider Trouba straight up for Drai, though I worry that he may be a product of Hall right now.

I think we have to find that #1a centre to Scheifele at 1b. Little will probably be gone after next season.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Edmonton winning the lottery does create some interesting trade options for them with McDavid, Matthews, RNH, and Draisaitl. I don't think they're going to get value for RNH, but the others are interesting.

I wonder if they'd opt to trade Matthews in that position, not wanting to pay two superstars in 3 years. If we picked in the 4th slot, would Trouba be enough to switch spots? Plus Petan?

I'd certainly consider Trouba straight up for Drai, though I worry that he may be a product of Hall right now.

I think we have to find that #1a centre to Scheifele at 1b. Little will probably be gone after next season.

Because Chevy is such an active trader, right?

If we were to get an upgrade at 1C Little likely moves to RW. He might be traded if the right deal came along but I don't see it as being the most likely scenario.

 

[CaptainChef]

Get rid of the "+" besides Burmistrov and we have a deal, no question.

Burmistrov - 249-28-41-69 ( 24 years old 16/17 - $1.6MM )
Yakupov - 228-46-56-102 (22 years old 16/17 - $2.5MM)

IMO this is the last season you will see Burmistrov with the Jets. He came back, they tried it for a year. Not saying Yakupov would work out better, but the potential is still there and for $900,000 more per season, I would take a chance on that one season to see if you can make him into a player. If it doesn't work out with Yak, so be it, but it would still be worth it to try, if the cost was just Burmi.

Burmi traded at the TD - yes please.
Other than Ladd, wouldn't mind seeing Stafford dealt, Pavs/Thorburn/Peluso we could be so lucky, Hutch would be nice, Stu - injured so no chance

 

[Snot Rocket]

Burmi traded at the TD - yes please.
Other than Ladd, wouldn't mind seeing Stafford dealt, Pavs/Thorburn/Peluso we could be so lucky, Hutch would be nice, Stu - injured so no chance

Whoa, slow down...breathe!
Might be easier next time to just list who you want to keep.