Jets General Rumour, Trade, Free Agent and Waiver Speculation 15-16 Part IX

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[Evil Little]

Stuart

for

Tarasenko

Blues finally get some grit in their lineup and the Jets take on the enigmatic Russian risk.

Win-win.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I see Seravalli is still pushing the idea that we will have to trade Trouba for 'cost certainty' after we sign Ladd.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/mondaymustread-a-look-at-every-team-s-needs-wants-and-wishes-1.438334

He must think Chevy is a complete idiot or he just hasn't bothered to think it through.

 

[Jetabre]

I see Seravalli is still pushing the idea that we will have to trade Trouba for 'cost certainty' after we sign Ladd.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/mondaymustread-a-look-at-every-team-s-needs-wants-and-wishes-1.438334

He must think Chevy is a complete idiot or he just hasn't bothered to think it through.

Trade our 21 year old top pairing D so we can sign our captain who is showing signs of being on the decline when we aren't a playoff team.

Hmm..

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Trade our 21 year old top pairing D so we can sign our captain who is showing signs of being on the decline when we aren't a playoff team.

Hmm..

Yeah, I'm so glad that mainstream media is so on top of these things. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

 

[KingBogo]

I see Seravalli is still pushing the idea that we will have to trade Trouba for 'cost certainty' after we sign Ladd.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/mondaymustread-a-look-at-every-team-s-needs-wants-and-wishes-1.438334

He must think Chevy is a complete idiot or he just hasn't bothered to think it through.

The comment makes no sense but Ladd to Florida sure does. Curious on how much they would pay.

 

[Nickel eye Heel hers]

Statistically someone already showed Ladd to have 2nd line possession numbers in a different thread and 1st line possession numbers in previous years. Regardless how you feel about Ladd his numbers prove him to be a 1st to 2nd line forward even today.
So if you think because he's playing like a bum and sucks you're WRONG.
I know you're wrong because statistics say you're WRONG.
That being said, he may never be the player he was in previous years and now would be the best time to trade him, while the value is high.
Regardless if Ladd is traded or signed I would trade Trouba to get Hamonic in a heart beat. Heck trade Ladd and Trouba, how's that for cost certainty. I won't argue Trouba isn't a highly skilled defenseman. Trouba does have high end talent. I argue he lacks the integrity or character to continue to be in his mid to late 20's. Trade Trouba, get Hamonic call it cost certainty if you want but in 5 to 6 years we could be thrilled that we did. Trade Ladd and get a late 1st round and a prospect ?

Did I say get rid of both ?

 

[roccerfeller]

I hope we can find a way to land hamonic while holding on to trouba.

He has too much upside still in my mind.

Hamonic would certainly be worth a package involving Myers and is still feel that's the most fair deal given their contracts, ages, and league status as "top 4 d men"

And I like Myers a lot (his passing skills though, leave a lot to be desired...) but his wingspan is very advantageous.

 

[sully1410]

Statistically someone already showed Ladd to have 2nd line possession numbers in a different thread and 1st line possession numbers in previous years. Regardless how you feel about Ladd his numbers prove him to be a 1st to 2nd line forward even today.
So if you think because he's playing like a bum and sucks you're WRONG.
I know you're wrong because statistics say you're WRONG.
That being said, he may never be the player he was in previous years and now would be the best time to trade him, while the value is high.
Regardless if Ladd is traded or signed I would trade Trouba to get Hamonic in a heart beat. Heck trade Ladd and Trouba, how's that for cost certainty. I won't argue Trouba isn't a highly skilled defenseman. Trouba does have high end talent. I argue he lacks the integrity or character to continue to be in his mid to late 20's. Trade Trouba, get Hamonic call it cost certainty if you want but in 5 to 6 years we could be thrilled that we did. Trade Ladd and get a late 1st round and a prospect ?

Did I say get rid of both ?

Trading Trouba for Hamonic would be incredibly silly. At 21, Trouba is already a better player then Hamonic is...and he hasn't even hit his prime years yet.

 

[puck stoppa]

Trouba talk is non sense. It does scare me that there is smoke in many different media sources but I just don't see it. Enstrom won't be here forever and he is a more likely trade target than Trouba IMO. I'd prefer they move Myers for some help but I get the feeling the Jets will not move him. So then why not run with this as your top four after next year, assuming Enstrom is moved next summer?
Trouba Buff
Morrissey Myers

edit: I still think you can land Hamonic for Enstrom plus a prospect of some type, maybe Harkins or Spacek. Enstrom still has 4 good years left in him at least, and let NYI pick a combined prospect with a pick and we are set on D.

Trouba Buff
Morrissey Hamonic
Chych Myers

 

[puck stoppa]

I should add using a first acquired in a Ladd trade could also help you land hamonic. Could essentially become Ladd for hamonic plus whatever you add or get.

 

[roccerfeller]

Trouba talk is non sense. It does scare me that there is smoke in many different media sources but I just don't see it. Enstrom won't be here forever and he is a more likely trade target than Trouba IMO. I'd prefer they move Myers for some help but I get the feeling the Jets will not move him. So then why not run with this as your top four after next year, assuming Enstrom is moved next summer?
Trouba Buff
Morrissey Myers

edit: I still think you can land Hamonic for Enstrom plus a prospect of some type, maybe Harkins or Spacek. Enstrom still has 4 good years left in him at least, and let NYI pick a combined prospect with a pick and we are set on D.

Trouba Buff
Morrissey Hamonic
Chych Myers

What a beautiful d corps. Wow.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Yeah, I'm so glad that mainstream media is so on top of these things. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

Must be where Stanley Cup Of Chowder got their article idea.

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/...ouba-ahead-how-bruins-can-target-jacob-trouba

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Must be where Stanley Cup Of Chowder got their article idea.

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/...ouba-ahead-how-bruins-can-target-jacob-trouba

Holy crap, that's horrific!

Trouba for Seidenberg, Khoklachev and a 2nd suddenly looks a very good one to a) free up salary and b) convince the Jets their needs are being filled. It also gives the Jets a younger few players to shore up their prospects and develop.

So, they spend a part of the article blowing up Seidenberg in comparison to Trouba, then offer Seidenberg, a prospect, and a 2nd for Trouba, so that we can shore up our prospects with some younger players?

How about we just keep our younger player - y'know, that Trouba guy? They also ignore the fact that they think the Jets are going to be in cap trouble trying to sign Trouba (+ some other RFAs), then proceed to give us a HIGHER cap hit. Seidenberg is also 34 freakin' years old. He'd be the oldest Jet BY FAR.



Terrible, terrible, terrible article.

 

[Nickel eye Heel hers]

Trading Trouba for Hamonic would be incredibly silly. At 21, Trouba is already a better player then Hamonic is...and he hasn't even hit his prime years yet.

Honestly it's his prime years that scare me. What kind of shape is he going to be in after another five years of off season training in Australia?

 

[Huffer]

Must be where Stanley Cup Of Chowder got their article idea.

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/...ouba-ahead-how-bruins-can-target-jacob-trouba

What a terrible article. The analysis was fine, but the author decided to go into full hf mode and only see a trade from his (Bruins) side and completely shafts the Jets. What a terrible offer. Have to lol that he thinks the Jets #1 concern is wingers.

One of the big problems with the net, is that any moron can (and do) write garbage opinion pieces and others somehow give them weight. And then you have 3 or 4 nonsense articles that reference each other, and somehow they believe this is proof of "rumors" or something happening.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

What a terrible article. The analysis was fine, but the author decided to go into full hf mode and only see a trade from his (Bruins) side and completely shafts the Jets. What a terrible offer. Have to lol that he thinks the Jets #1 concern is wingers.

One of the big problems with the net, is that any moron can (and do) write garbage opinion pieces and others somehow give them weight. And then you have 3 or 4 nonsense articles that reference each other, and somehow they believe this is proof of "rumors" or something happening.

Or you hear the infamous "where there's smoke, there's fire". No, there's just some terrible speculation taking place, with confirmation bias.

 

[sully1410]

Honestly it's his prime years that scare me. What kind of shape is he going to be in after another five years of off season training in Australia?

That's just ridiculous.

 

[pateramus]

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2...t-jacob-trouba

Lmfao, BIG WTF reading that article.

 

[CorgisPer60]

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2...t-jacob-trouba

Lmfao, BIG WTF reading that article.

I know, right? The only part they got right was that Stuart sucks and Trouba is a monster by dragging that boat anchor around. Everything else was so ****ing useless that I wouldn't wipe my ass digitally on it.

 

[robertocarlos]

Must be where Stanley Cup Of Chowder got their article idea.

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/...ouba-ahead-how-bruins-can-target-jacob-trouba

Their logic is flawed. Why would Jets want an older and worse D-man and an AHL Russian and almost USELESS PICKS.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Their logic is flawed. Why would Jets want an older and worse D-man and an AHL Russian and almost USELESS PICKS.

BUT THE JETS WILL HAVE 3 PICKS IN THE TOP 50! **** off with that ********.

 

[SoupaTroupa]

I see Seravalli is still pushing the idea that we will have to trade Trouba for 'cost certainty' after we sign Ladd.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/mondaymustread-a-look-at-every-team-s-needs-wants-and-wishes-1.438334

He must think Chevy is a complete idiot or he just hasn't bothered to think it through.

Seravelli is an idiot. The more I read from him the more I believe he just pulls **** out of his ass.

 

[Jetabre]

The simple fact is...the Jets are bad. They're pretty much in rebuild mode and ripe for the picking here. If the Bruins aggressively pursue Trouba, the resolve could weaken, particularly if the Jets are given resources in return.

Swell logic..If Trouba was over 30 and not the perfect age to fit into a rebuild like he is.

However, the Bruins should be looking to drop Seidenberg into a deal here at every opportunity, particularly with a Winnipeg team who are looking for both veteran help and have the cap room to facilitate it.

We really need to drop this aging vet! Winnipeg has cap space they should give us a young stud defender for our old vet who doesn't fit into their expected window for competing. It makes sense trust us!


So much wrong with this article.

 

[Snot Rocket]

What is the ever lasting fascination with Hamonic? 2 concussions, Snow wants a mint...and RD.
This has been offered to Chevy for a year now, and has gone nowhere...now Buff is signed...so unless Hamonic rides in on a magical unicorn with rainbows and sparkles shooting out it's ass that guarantees no goals will be scored so long as Prince Hambone is on the ice...I seriously doubt that will ever happen.
The fork was in this the moment Buff signed.