Speculation: Jets General Rumour, Trade, Free Agent and Waiver Speculation 15-16 (Part III)

[CaptainChef]

Maybe Erickson and Zboril (or Morrow) for Byfuglien.

Yep that's the deal I'd like to see as well. Not sure we'd really have need for Erickson after this season, but a year to see & a good defense prospect would be a heck of a lot more than we'll get if they don't decide what to do with Buff soon

 

[Aavco Cup]

Not sure which thread to put this in but there are some significant changes to the Jets scouting staff

@RickRalphTSN: #NHLJets Mark Hillier becomes Dir of A. Scouting. Marcel Comeau remains as amateur scout (more time w family).

@RickRalphTSN: #NHLJets name Kjell Dahlin, European Amtr scout, Jari Grönstrand, European professional scout and Mark White as a college FA scout.

http://jets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=777945

 

[Channelcat]

And Lodge and Kostalek!

So yes.

Well.... HF has Kostalek rated as a D prospect. I guess Chevy missed that I'm actually excited to see more of this guy....although I guess he's going back to the Q. Meh

 

[Bob E]

Not sure which thread to put this in but there are some significant changes to the Jets scouting staff

@RickRalphTSN: #NHLJets Mark Hillier becomes Dir of A. Scouting. Marcel Comeau remains as amateur scout (more time w family).

@RickRalphTSN: #NHLJets name Kjell Dahlin, European Amtr scout, Jari Grönstrand, European professional scout and Mark White as a college FA scout.

http://jets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=777945

Maybe we'll pick more Swedes in the draft now.

Our Swede numbers are too low. Right Romang?

 

[Channelcat]

Yep that's the deal I'd like to see as well. Not sure we'd really have need for Erickson after this season, but a year to see & a good defense prospect would be a heck of a lot more than we'll get if they don't decide what to do with Buff soon

I think thats a reasonable scenario. I didn't check but I think Ericksson is UFA after this season too. They are obviously on Zboril though..............they might be looking at him as untouchable.

 

[Bob E]

I think thats a reasonable scenario. I didn't check but I think Ericksson is UFA after this season too. They are obviously on Zboril though..............they might be looking at him as untouchable.

Don't think we'd get Zboril in a Buff deal, either.

Eriksson+Carlo (or Morrow)+2016 1st maybe. I would not want that 1st lottery protected either.

Edit: garret won't like that deal (Carlo).

 

[garret9]

Some words on Raffl and Leggio:
http://jetsnation.ca/2015/9/1/david-leggio-and-thomas-raffl-invited-to-winnipeg-jets-camp

 

[garret9]

Don't think we'd get Zboril in a Buff deal, either.

Eriksson+Carlo (or Morrow)+2016 1st maybe. I would not want that 1st lottery protected either.

Edit: garret won't like that deal (Carlo).

Carlo isn't a bad prospect, just wasn't a 1st round quality prospect like some were thinking

 

[Bob E]

Carlo isn't a bad prospect, just wasn't a 1st round quality prospect like some were thinking

Fair enough.

I don't mind an Eriksson+Carlo+2016 1st Rd for Buff. May need to add a little, say Harrison or Clitsome or Postma, but I think that's a deal that may help both teams. Boston replaces Hamilton with Buff. We gain a useful vet for 1 year (and could move him at TD) and two prospects for a guy that is very difficult to keep based on our cap situation for 2016 and beyond.

Plus, I would first try to sign Eriksson to a two year extension and move Stafford. Even with Armia and Ehlers coming, a quality veteran like Eriksson would be a nice add.

 

[CaptainChef]

Fair enough.

I don't mind an Eriksson+Carlo+2016 1st Rd for Buff. May need to add a little, say Harrison or Clitsome or Postma, but I think that's a deal that may help both teams. Boston replaces Hamilton with Buff. We gain a useful vet for 1 year (and could move him at TD) and two prospects for a guy that is very difficult to keep based on our cap situation for 2016 and beyond.

Plus, I would first try to sign Eriksson to a two year extension and move Stafford. Even with Armia and Ehlers coming, a quality veteran like Eriksson would be a nice add.

Boy I would love to see this happen. If we start the season with no development on the Buff front, I could actually see something to this effect happening.

If Boston's defence ends up being as inept as some are predicting, wouldn't it be nice to ship Buff & a Harrison/Pardy type player (without Buff I'd probably want to hang onto Postma) and get a return like that back. Heck at that point I'd be happy to get Erickson + Carlo/Morrow + 2016 2nd

 

[Huffer]

Fair enough.

I don't mind an Eriksson+Carlo+2016 1st Rd for Buff. May need to add a little, say Harrison or Clitsome or Postma, but I think that's a deal that may help both teams. Boston replaces Hamilton with Buff. We gain a useful vet for 1 year (and could move him at TD) and two prospects for a guy that is very difficult to keep based on our cap situation for 2016 and beyond.

Plus, I would first try to sign Eriksson to a two year extension and move Stafford. Even with Armia and Ehlers coming, a quality veteran like Eriksson would be a nice add.

That would be a very good deal IMO, but I'm not sure the difference between Buff and Eriksson is a 1st and a good prospect. I think Buff is more valuable, but I don't think by that much.

 

[puck stoppa]

That would be a very good deal IMO, but I'm not sure the difference between Buff and Eriksson is a 1st and a good prospect. I think Buff is more valuable, but I don't think by that much.

Ya, I wouldn't be a fan of that deal. Eriksson is a UFA and I think we can do better. Buff needs an ROR type of deal where the agent can talk to the team in advance so an extension can be signed. This will maximize his value and get us a good roster player that has term left plus a prospect or pick(s).

 

[Huffer]

Ya, I wouldn't be a fan of that deal. Eriksson is a UFA and I think we can do better. Buff needs an ROR type of deal where the agent can talk to the team in advance so an extension can be signed. This will maximize his value and get us a good roster player that has term left plus a prospect or pick(s).

Personally if Buff was to be traded I prefer a more futures oriented deal myself (or at least with the return of a player that's not going to become a UFA).

But with salary likely needing to come back our way, getting a now piece and a nice futures piece isn't terrible either (depending on how good the futures piece is).

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Raffl Signs PTO

Thoughts on this Raffl fellow?

 

[Gm0ney]

Thoughts on this Raffl fellow?

This is Thomas Raffl who signed the PTO, not Michael Raffl (of the Flyers).

29, 6'4", 215 lbs, was 3rd in scoring in the Austrian league last year. 1st in scoring on his team (Salzberg) who won the championship. Would be a real surprise to make the Jets. The Moose maybe...

 

[truck]

Thoughts on this Raffl fellow?

Part of the youth movement.

 

[garret9]

Some words on Raffl and Leggio:
http://jetsnation.ca/2015/9/1/david-leggio-and-thomas-raffl-invited-to-winnipeg-jets-camp

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Thoughts on this Raffl fellow?

only a few comments above

 

[garret9]

This is Thomas Raffl who signed the PTO, not Michael Raffl (of the Flyers).

29, 6'4", 215 lbs, was 3rd in scoring in the Austrian league last year. 1st in scoring on his team (Salzberg) who won the championship. Would be a real surprise to make the Jets. The Moose maybe...

Honestly, I'm surprised he's even risking this.

Europe, especially a captain > AHL
at least in terms of $, job security (ie ability to get LT contracts), and plus other bonuses.

I mean, he could go back to Austria if he doesn't make Jets, but I believe (IIRC) the season will have started for them already.

 

[EastRiver]

I want Draisaitl, and a 1st for Byfuglien.

Wait.....you guys think we could get Draisatl and a first for Buff? Wow.

Here's something a bit more realistic. Buff to COL for Siemens, a 1st and a 3rd.

I know the other deal is unrealistic but why Seimens. He is a bust of a first rounder that hasn't done anything yet.

 

[truck]

I know the other deal is unrealistic but why Seimens. He is a bust of a first rounder that hasn't done anything yet.

Just Draisaitl would do. He might be a little but out of reach, but...

Expecting a good prospect in return for arguably the Jets' best player isn't that unrealistic.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Just Draisaitl would do. He might be a little but out of reach, but...

Expecting a good prospect in return for arguably the Jets' best player isn't that unrealistic.

A potential 1C with size would be a good return. So would a potential 1LD. There are a couple of teams who have those.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

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only a few comments above

Sorry, I was skimming the Boston posts and didn't notice.

 

[Channelcat]

I know the other deal is unrealistic but why Seimens. He is a bust of a first rounder that hasn't done anything yet.

I know, I'm suggesting what realistic value might be. You cant get elite young talent without offering the same.....unless of course there is either damaged goods involved, or George McPhee.

 

[EastRiver]

Just Draisaitl would do. He might be a little but out of reach, but...

Expecting a good prospect in return for arguably the Jets' best player isn't that unrealistic.

I'd do LD for Buff but I'm certain Edm wouldn't.

 

[EastRiver]

I know, I'm suggesting what realistic value might be. You cant get elite young talent without offering the same.....unless of course there is either damaged goods involved, or George McPhee.

Siemens for Buff isn't realistic value in my opinion,