Post-Game Talk: Jets 5 - Blues 2

[KingBogo]

Considering our goaltending has gotten off to a slow start by their standards this season the team is doing well.

It is by far our most balance and deep team we have had since 2017-18. Especially up front. Defense has also been mostly good. It is nice not to have to rely on goaltending as much.

 

[Jet]

I'm really liking how deep we are looking. We are winning with different lines taking lead roles on different nights. This is what team balance looks like, and it is what people have been wanting for years. We finally have enough talent up front to make it happen.

If we could only make a couple of internal tweaks on D.

Waive Stan
Call up Capo
Bench Schmidt
Rotate Capo and Chizz

There's no way that doesn't make us stronger

 

[Jet]

Agreed. More and more he is looking like the guy looking in from the outside.

He's just looking really slow, and his passing decisions are extremely poor.

I thought he had lost a step after his surgery, but he just looks like a guy who's a step behind the play, mentally. Oftentimes that does show up in skating too, not physically but mentally.

I'm just hoping he's still getting up to speed after being out but he doesn't seem to be getting better, I'm kind of worried.

 

[surixon]

Agreed. More and more he is looking like the guy looking in from the outside.

Yeah something has to give with him. Cole needs some help on the second line and he's the one who's supposed to be doing it but is just not getting it done. He's also now been supplanted by Cole in the pecking order much like he was last year prior to Cole getting injured. Not really sure what to do with him this season other then hope he figures it out and ups his game.

 

[Buffdog]

The TOI breakdown for the forwards is beautiful. Finally a 4th line that can play 10+ minutes a night

 

[Jet]

Dallas is also strong, but neither are world beaters. More and more it is starting to appear that we will be in the top 3 mix in the Central.

A long way to go but just where I thought we'd be.

Dallas has had an easier qoc so far so while I do think they're a solid team with a very good goalie, I'd expect them to fall off their pace a bit

 

[SUX2BU]

Sux2bu with another unexplained absence

JetfaninFlorida MIA again

Oh look, I'm posting

On a serious note, Ehlers has got to find his mojo again ............

 

[KingBogo]

The TOI breakdown for the forwards is beautiful. Finally a 4th line that can play 10+ minutes a night
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That’s what real depth gives you. Enough talent to run 4 lines. In the past when our depth was really no more than a handful of AHL tweeners you really didn’t want them to play that much.

 

[Jet]

What was up with the Jets’ speed of play, both skating and no-wait passing in the second? Was everybody on Red Bull?
If we can let those horses bust loose in every game, Av’s and Dallas are in for a wee surprise!
Great teamwork (with a good helping of chaos sprinkled in). We also seem to do consistently well on Dzone breakouts when we have sucked all the opponents F and D into our own Dzone. (Don’t tell anybody, it might be in our playbook)

We are attacking the puck all over the ice, our D is as active as I've seen it in a few years, and we look super dangerous off the rush.

This team is starting to look like the 17-18 pack of wolves. Maybe a scooch deeper on F and less talented on D.

 

[Jack7222]

He's just looking really slow, and his passing decisions are extremely poor.

I thought he had lost a step after his surgery, but he just looks like a guy who's a step behind the play, mentally. Oftentimes that does show up in skating too, not physically but mentally.

I'm just hoping he's still getting up to speed after being out but he doesn't seem to be getting better, I'm kind of worried.

He doesn't even really seem slower to me, it just seems like his head's not in it or something. He's making uncharacteristically bad decisions like you say and killing plays.

Man Schief was fun to watch in this one. I think if they had a better player than Iafallo on that line him and Connor would look a lot better in general. Iafallo had a great game too though.

Thought all our centers played super well.

 

[KingBogo]

If we could only make a couple of internal tweaks on D.

Waive Stan
Call up Capo
Bench Schmidt
Rotate Capo and Chizz

There's no way that doesn't make us stronger

I’ve been hoping there was still a residual market for Stanley, but appears that isn’t the case.

 

[Jack7222]

That’s what real depth gives you. Enough talent to run 4 lines. In the past when our depth was really no more than a handful of AHL tweeners you really didn’t want them to play that much.

It's been a long time since I haven't dreaded having one or more of our players out there. And if a line or two is slumping there are others to get it done. Makes a big difference for sure.

 

[surixon]

The TOI breakdown for the forwards is beautiful. Finally a 4th line that can play 10+ minutes a night
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This distribution looks great.

I’ve been hoping there was still a residual market for Stanley, but appears that isn’t the case.

They waited too long imo. Had they dealt him right after his Canadian division year they likely get something good for him.

 

[Jet]

He doesn't even really seem slower to me, it just seems like his head's not in it or something. He's making uncharacteristically bad decisions like you say and killing plays.

Man Schief was fun to watch in this one. I think if they had a better player than Iafallo on that line him and Connor would look a lot better in general. Iafallo had a great game too though.

Thought all our centers played super well.

It's funny, because I catch myself thinking that about Iafallo as well but look who had 4 assists and not just oooooh it touched me assists, but actual key plays and setups for goals.

Might just be a bit of bias of what we thought Iafallo was when we got him. He has a more simple game than the other two, but he's strong on the wall and he makes good plays that are more direct/ less flashy.

I am pretty excited to see Gabe back on that line but at the same time, with Ehlers struggling so much we might have to rethink that to ensure that the second line (read Perfetti) has some support so he can start producing more.

That makes me wonder where Ehlers fits on this team, now? You don't put him on the 3rd line because that line is magic right now.

It might be time to move on from Ehlers. I bet we could package him with one of our prospects and get that vaunted top pair RD we've been searching for, but I'm not sure I love that idea. We have Heinola, Chisolm and Capobianco who have all honestly earned a real shot at playing on this roster, and adding another D causes us some issues there.

I think we just have to see if Nik can pull himself out of this. FFS though I wish the team would AT LEAST give Chisolm a game or two to see if he can outperform 88 and 64 - I honestly don't know why Stanley is still a Jet (I know I know, you can never have too many D)

I’ve been hoping there was still a residual market for Stanley, but appears that isn’t the case.

At some point you just have to accept that your 1st rounder flopped. It happens all the time.

 

[kanadalainen]

I still have my power player album...

When I was out of the country (work training for two years) my parents *gave* mine away, along with my collection of iron man marvel comics to a church raffle. I loved that tome - one of my favourite collections.

 

[kanadalainen]

what a wonderful feeling. I woke up around 3.30 am my time and checked the score. The jets were up 3-1. So I went back to sleep in peace. I just got up, fixed me a coffee and watched the highlights. that's how I want to start my day.

I enjoy your contributions, very cool that you are a regular contributor. All the best!

 

[Jets 31]

I'm not ready to give up on Ehlers yet, Valardi comes back you throw him with Scheifele and Connor, move Perfetti back to center with Iaffalo and Ehlers. Leave the 3rd line alone and have Names playing with Kupari and Barron on the 4th . Now that's what i call depth man .

 

[Jack7222]

It's funny, because I catch myself thinking that about Iafallo as well but look who had 4 assists and not just oooooh it touched me assists, but actual key plays and setups for goals.

Might just be a bit of bias of what we thought Iafallo was when we got him. He has a more simple game than the other two, but he's strong on the wall and he makes good plays that are more direct/ less flashy.

I'd agree except that the top line just hasn't been great on the whole. Getting hemmed defensively and not generating a lot offensively either.

Schief dominated this game by himself, which made everything work obviously, but I also think the Blues don't have any real powerhouse lines to bully the Schief line either which we've seen happen. I just think if you're going to have Schief and Connor together you need someone very strong to tilt the ice. It worked last game but I'm not sure how strong the Blues actually are, and don't think we can count on Schief beasting like that regularly...

 

[Romang67]

what a wonderful feeling. I woke up around 3.30 am my time and checked the score. The jets were up 3-1. So I went back to sleep in peace. I just got up, fixed me a coffee and watched the highlights. that's how I want to start my day.

Highly recommend using dtmts.com (don't tell me the score) if you want to keep the score an unknown through the extended highlights.

 

[surixon]

I'd agree except that the top line just hasn't been great on the whole. Getting hemmed defensively and not generating a lot offensively either.

Schief dominated this game by himself, which made everything work obviously, but I also think the Blues don't have any real powerhouse lines to bully the Schief line either which we've seen happen. I just think if you're going to have Schief and Connor together you need someone very strong to tilt the ice. It worked last game but I'm not sure how strong the Blues actually are, and don't think we can count on Schief beasting like that regularly...

Agreed. To me the Blues defense ain't what it used to be. They also aren't super strong upfront.

 

[JetsUK]

Well if Eye-ah-fah-loh (thanks to @KevSaw for the phonetical guide) is matching PLD just on his own, then does that mean we won the LAK trade by 2 whole players?

Nice win by t'lads. Outside of the first 10 mins or so and minus a few wobbles they looked to be solidly in control of that one and made the Blues look very ordinary, despite the enthusiasm of their fans.

P'tonque continues his less-bad, even good play, 1st line killing it, 2nd hanging in, 3rd and 4th looking strong also.

Helle fine outside of the leaker.

Kupari and Barron get some kudos for relentless puck pressure in the o-zone, keeping pucks in when all hope seemed lost.

 

[CorgisPer60]

I liked a lot of what the jets were doing last night, though I didn't like the negligent counterpunch defense that they were giving up. I'm sorry, but no forward should have a break away from the blue line in. Bucky was swimming a lot last night as well, which wasn't very inspiring. The Jets made the most of their opportunities, but the Blues could have had a lead easily if they buried a couple of their wide open nets.

 

[UFO]

I enjoy your contributions, very cool that you are a regular contributor. All the best!

Thanks my brother! To you too!

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

First ~5 minutes of the game, I thought it was going to be a long night. Jets just slowly took over. And Binnington is CRAP.

Pionk can contribute offensively, but he remains a big defensive liability.

Great road win. Way to go boys!

 

[JetsUK]

It's funny, because I catch myself thinking that about Iafallo as well but look who had 4 assists and not just oooooh it touched me assists, but actual key plays and setups for goals.

Might just be a bit of bias of what we thought Iafallo was when we got him. He has a more simple game than the other two, but he's strong on the wall and he makes good plays that are more direct/ less flashy.

I am pretty excited to see Gabe back on that line but at the same time, with Ehlers struggling so much we might have to rethink that to ensure that the second line (read Perfetti) has some support so he can start producing more.

That makes me wonder where Ehlers fits on this team, now? You don't put him on the 3rd line because that line is magic right now.

It might be time to move on from Ehlers. I bet we could package him with one of our prospects and get that vaunted top pair RD we've been searching for, but I'm not sure I love that idea. We have Heinola, Chisolm and Capobianco who have all honestly earned a real shot at playing on this roster, and adding another D causes us some issues there.

I think we just have to see if Nik can pull himself out of this. FFS though I wish the team would AT LEAST give Chisolm a game or two to see if he can outperform 88 and 64 - I honestly don't know why Stanley is still a Jet (I know I know, you can never have too many D)


At some point you just have to accept that your 1st rounder flopped. It happens all the time.

Yep. However "committed" they have been to him.

I was hoping for Stan to be moved on this offseason. Not sure why they extended him but it's a cheapish contract, not hard to move.

Capo is the better player, and brings a viable swap in for Schmidt.

Wonder if they're waiting on Ville's return to make a move, but once again it will involve a Stan, Capo or Chisholm waiver, unless Ville spends the rest of the year in the A, which he doesn't deserve if he brings the same game he had during the preseason.

Once again, the long waiting game with our D.

And Chisholm grows mould in the PB.

Team's playing well and putting up points, but it's early enough in the season still to try some things out.