Player Discussion Jesse Puljujarvi Part 11: Solid Return Season Completed, How Does Next Season Go For the Big Finn?

[Little Fury]

Dishonest and dumb is refering to Kanes shooting % as his primary value while acting like the guy hasn't gained the zone all by himself several times a game. Or skating the puck out of trouble or taking on dmen to make a play

Meanwhile one would be hardpressed to recall JP taking 5 strides with the puck in the last 20 games, or taking on a defender or going around one with puck control.

Your bs sh% theory is nonsense

I'm not saying Kane doesn't do good things, but it's a simple fact he's on a SH% heater and he will regress just as night follows day and anyone paying him based on his current inflated numbers will regret it.

 

[Little Fury]

OK so Kane is on a heater because he's with McDavid but Pulju is a glue guy and not boosted by McDavid. Can you see the complete lack of logic in that statement?

Except PJ does well no matter where he plays, Kane struggles away from McDavid.

 

[Little Fury]

Kane is the same age as Barrie, 10months older than Hyman and about a year older than Nuge all of which got long term deals with Oilers just now.
He also brings in a lot more than just scoring so his shooting % isn't a huge factor

It is an easy decision between Pulju and Kane if money is the same on a 3 -4 year deal. Puljujarvi isn't in that tier. Hopefully Holland finds a way to keep em both if Kane actually wants to stay and isn't expecting more than what Barrie is making in term and AAV

I agree, it's Puljujarvi all the way based on age alone. But yeah hopefully they can dump some bad deals like Kassian, Smith and Barrie and keep both plus Yamo.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Except PJ does well no matter where he plays, Kane struggles away from McDavid.

To an extent, and I agree don't overpay him to ignore other players. But he's not James Neal. Scoring isn't nothing and re-signing Kane should be on the to do list, imo, just not over JP or Yamo.

 

[MessierII]

Except PJ does well no matter where he plays, Kane struggles away from McDavid.

Kane has an entire career as an elite goal scorer and premier power forward in this league away from Mcdavid.

 

[Little Fury]

Kane has an entire career as an elite goal scorer and premier power forward in this league away from Mcdavid.

His career production is a 28 goal, 53 point player and he's scoring at a 42 goal, 74 point clip here. It's not hard to see that it's an outlier.

 

[bobbythebrain]

His career production is a 28 goal, 53 point player and he's scoring at a 42 goal, 74 point clip here. It's not hard to see that it's an outlier.

What's JPs production with Leon? Or are we gonna go back to not counting that and saying when Drai or his winger score, it was b/c JP was on the line

 

[dem]

As skeptical as I was about the Kane Gongshow...

If you can sign Kane to a reasonable deal for a couple years (3?) You do it. You have to find a way to unload Kassian.

Oh.. and you definitely keep Jesse.

I dunno if theirs actually capspace to do that though.

 

[Oilslick941611]

saw this on reddit, pretty cool

 

[dem]

His career production is a 28 goal, 53 point player and he's scoring at a 42 goal, 74 point clip here. It's not hard to see that it's an outlier.

I mean.. Kane's ppg pace was pretty good in San Jose too.

 

[Little Fury]

What's JPs production with Leon? Or are we gonna go back to not counting that and saying when Drai or his winger score, it was b/c JP was on the line

What are you even blathering about?

 

[Forgot About Drai]

The goals/points havent been there, but if you dont think Pulju has been playing great for the last few weeks then I dont know what to tell you.

 

[McAsuno]

 

[Forgot About Drai]

f***ing beat. If holland trades him/doesnt resign him just to sign Evander we riot.

 

[ZJuice]

What’s with the running out of town narrative? Effect of the idiots being the loudest? Trying to get views?

 

[Forgot About Drai]

What’s with the running out of town narrative? Effect of the idiots being the loudest? Trying to get views?

Just like the analytic fanatics are very loud, so are the hard-line anti-analytics fanatics. I think they are the minority but they make a lot of noise in the anti JP discourse. Personally, I think thats a very small % of our fanbase and majority love and know Pulju worth to this team.

 

[Oilhawks]

“Unless he gets run out of Edmonton first”



A few vocal fans don’t run any players out of town. Absolute garbage. Also the org seems to like JP, and put in a lot of effort to bring him back

 

[Oilhawks]

What’s with the running out of town narrative? Effect of the idiots being the loudest? Trying to get views?

He’s just trying to stick it to the anti-JP crowd here (he posts here) and on Twit-ter

 

[ChaoticOrange]

He’s just trying to stick it to the anti-JP crowd here (he posts here) and on Twit-ter

Indeed I do.

See also:

Oilers record with Puljujarvi: 35-19-2
Oilers record without Puljujarvi: 5-6-3

I'm not saying he can't be better or improve some things, but he's certainly highly valuable now and people like DeBrusk and Spector trying to sell that he's somehow been struggling are just plain wrong.

 

[Oilhawks]

Indeed I do.

See also:

Oilers record with Puljujarvi: 35-19-2
Oilers record without Puljujarvi: 5-6-3

I'm not saying he can't be better or improve some things, but he's certainly highly valuable now and people like DeBrusk and Spector trying to sell that he's somehow been struggling are just plain wrong.

Wouldn’t be the first time, and won’t be the last. Especially with Spector

 

[McAsuno]

STFU Tychkowski

 

[Oilhawks]

STFU Tychkowski

Tick’s lost the plot ever since he got absolutely embarrassed by Draisaitl. Nothing to see here

 

[ZJuice]

STFU Tychkowski

Ah I see the haters now…

Puljujarvi is a treasure.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

STFU Tychkowski

Spector/Tychkowski/Leavins/Gregor is like a human centipede of idiocy, I swear to god.

 

[McJC]

Spector/Tychkowski/Leavins/Gregor is like a human centipede of idiocy, I swear to god.

Gregor's one of the better guys IMO. Rishaug on the other hand...