Player Discussion Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Part VII) - Pretty Mint Edition

[DAChampion]

Impressive


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It took me a while to figure out what was going on in that plot.

Basically, when Kotkaniemi is on the ice, opposing teams are less likely to shoot the puck from right in front of the goalie, which is where the blue is. They shoot from the corners, which is where the red is. In contrast, when he's not on the ice, opposing players seem to shoot more often (red colors) from right in front of the net.

That is a cool graphic, and shows how far hockey stats are advancing. On the other hand, is Julien not sheltering Kotkaniemi, and thus playing him against lesser players?

 

[DAChampion]

Red is where the shots come from

Red is where the *excess* shots come from.

 

[Deebs]

Right, the majority

 

[Mrb1p]

Red is where the shots come from

What does blue mean ? Absence of shots ?

 

[NotProkofievian]

What does blue mean ? Absence of shots ?

The deficit of shots relative to league average.

edit: To add slightly to @DAChampion 's post, it's not that they're likely to shoot from the red areas and less likely to shoot from the blue. They're able and not able.

 

[Belial]

That is a cool graphic, and shows how far hockey stats are advancing. On the other hand, is Julien not sheltering Kotkaniemi, and thus playing him against lesser players?

He was sheltered somewhat and it's normal, but last night he was up against Kessler who's known to be a pain in the ass to play against and a really good defensive center and Kotka's line destroyed their opposition the entire game!

 

[DAChampion]

He was sheltered somewhat and it's normal, but last night he was up against Kessler who's known to be a pain in the ass to play against and a really good defensive center and Kotka's line destroyed their opposition the entire game!

Yes, but I think that the graphic that was shown is for the average over the entire season. However, it will be fun to see if the graphic changes during the second half of the year.

ETA: I would also like to see the graphic for each of the Habs' four centres.

 

[Belial]

This kid is f***ing Mint!

Almost as good as Sheldon! Amazing

 

[JeffreyLFC]

This kid is ****ing Mint!

Almost as good as Sheldon! Amazing

It is so odd to see many defenseman there.

 

[Belial]

It is so odd to see many defenseman there.

It's just a weird statistic lol

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

It took me a while to figure out what was going on in that plot.

Basically, when Kotkaniemi is on the ice, opposing teams are less likely to shoot the puck from right in front of the goalie, which is where the blue is. They shoot from the corners, which is where the red is. In contrast, when he's not on the ice, opposing players seem to shoot more often (red colors) from right in front of the net.

That is a cool graphic, and shows how far hockey stats are advancing. On the other hand, is Julien not sheltering Kotkaniemi, and thus playing him against lesser players?

That he is as effective as this against 3rd and 2nd liners at just an 18 years old is still very impressive. You can easily imagine him translate this to higher degree against better players with time.

 

[Censored Toad]

That he is as effective as this against 3rd and 2nd liners at just an 18 years old is still very impressive. You can easily imagine him translate this to higher degree against better players with time.

Yeah... 18 years old and he looks like a vet most of the time...

COLOUR me Impressed!

 

[Stubu]

A couple of things I noticed in the Ducks game like the previous couple of games. While he's skinny he doesn't shy away from battles in the crease. Looks like he's got some power forward mentality in there looking to come out. The other thing, when he pots a goal he doesn't go for a flashy individual celly, it's just (the smile and) a wide wingspan group hug... I love a fun celly as much as the next guy, but I kind of like his approach too, I could see it contributing something to the locker room atmosphere. (?)

 

[Belial]

A couple of things I noticed in the Ducks game like the previous couple of games. While he's skinny he doesn't shy away from battles in the crease. Looks like he's got some power forward mentality in there looking to come out. The other thing, when he pots a goal he doesn't go for a flashy individual celly, it's just (the smile and) a wide wingspan group hug... I love a fun celly as much as the next guy, but I kind of like his approach too, I could see it contributing something to the locker room atmosphere. (?)

The whole skinny and weak stuff is a narrative that was born around here.

 

[Saxon]

The whole skinny and weak stuff is a narrative that was born around here.

Very true, I'm not skinny, but I'm weak!!

 

[Belial]

Very true, I'm not skinny, but I'm weak!!

Slowly we will get there!

 

[THE HOFF]

I think someone probably explained to him that it's really hard to score when you're averaging less than a shot per game, which he had done for about a month prior to his recently flurry of productivity.

And consequently, it makes you a better passer when you have a shot people need to respect.

 

[Stubu]

The whole skinny and weak stuff is a narrative that was born around here.

Fair enough, maybe "lanky" is more what I meant, tall frame not filled out yet. He is holding his own when he is wrestling and wrangling with the opposing players.

 

[Belial]

Fair enough, maybe "lanky" is more what I meant, tall frame not filled out yet. He is holding his own when he is wrestling and wrangling with the opposing players.

He managed to move Chara out of the way at 18 years old... I mean the kid is gonna be a beast in the future!

 

[Holystik]

Love that kid, Packeryami!

 

[BaseballCoach]

It is so odd to see many defenseman there.

No it's not. Defencemen play conservatively on the road.

 

[Aspirine]

Wait, how does that map work ? Is the blue extra cold or is it more intense as the color goes darker ?

It's all on the right of the graph

 

[Mrb1p]

It's all on the right of the graph

You think youre so smart

 

[Uncle Gary]

He had 29 points in 57 games last year playing in the Liiga. He's got 26 points in 54 games in the NHL this season. That is quite the step up.

 

[1909]

He had 29 points in 57 games last year playing in the Liiga. He's got 26 points in 54 games in the NHL this season. That is quite the step up.

If he would still be in the Liiga, he would have a season like Elias Pettersen had last year in Sweden