Jeremy Roenick done on NBC

[KCbus]

It's always amusing to me when someone acts indignant over being held to standard for their own conduct.

The world is changing. What's acceptable behavior now isn't the same as what it was 20, or even 10 years ago. If someone's too stupid to realize that, and they behave in an unacceptable manner, they pay the price. Sorry about your luck.

 

[SurferBroChad]

Most of us have the sense to not take whatever creepy **** we say to each other (and people, guys and girls both, do say creepy **** to each other frequently -- we think with our genitals a lot, it's nature) and express it during any sort of live broadcast.

Isolated, and in private, it's all chuckles, still creepy, but no one in the room cares about how creepy it is. Put out into the world, outside of any sort of appropriate, as it were, social context, the creepiness has a spotlight shone on it. It is fully exposed for what it is and, in general, it is not okay.

Everyone pisses. Not everyone pisses in the corner of elevators. Thank goodness for that.

i mean cool analogy and all but the fact it goes from "all chuckles" to "exposed for what is is" just by being said on a podcast is hilarious.

"im okay with him saying that to friends at a table but if they turn on a mic and start recording its bad!"

cancel culture in a nutshell. nonsensical outrage by people who want to act like they are morally better then others.

 

[Barnum]

Our society is so weak, my god.

Spittin Chiclets might have problems getting guests in the future. **** you, NBC.

Yeah....we need more T

 

[NeverForget06]

To echo many in this thread, people aren't tuning in to watch the intermission.... Coaches Corner was nearly biblical to many hockey fans, and I doubt CBC has seen much of a change in viewership since they fired Don.

 

[Seras]

Can't remember the last time I watched a game with the sound on let alone analysts

 

[Herregud]

i mean cool analogy and all but the fact it goes from "all chuckles" to "exposed for what is is" just by being said on a podcast is hilarious.

"im okay with him saying that to friends at a table but if they turn on a mic and start recording its bad!"

cancel culture in a nutshell. nonsensical outrage by people who want to act like they are morally better then others.

Dude. It has nothing to do with "cancel culture" whatever the heck that is. It's literally how it has always been.

I mean hockey has its own version of it that's brought up frequently... or rather sports in general. In which people frequently say things like "it stays in house" or "it stays in the locker room". People have been traded or released for not adhering to this. Why is it so surprised that someone's gotten fired over it?

I'm so sick of buzz words taking the place of common sense, man.

 

[SurferBroChad]

Dude. It has nothing to do with "cancel culture" whatever the heck that is. It's literally how it has always been.

I mean hockey has its own version of it that's brought up frequently... or rather sports in general. In which people frequently say things like "it stays in house" or "it stays in the locker room". People have been traded or released for not adhering to this. Why is it so surprised that someone's gotten fired over it?

I'm so sick of buzz words taking the place of common sense, man.

its not a buzz word. its the current state of society and if you think its "how its always been" you are like 14.

if your so sick of it just dig through my post history and get me banned.

 

[tarheelhockey]

i mean cool analogy and all but the fact it goes from "all chuckles" to "exposed for what is is" just by being said on a podcast is hilarious.

"im okay with him saying that to friends at a table but if they turn on a mic and start recording its bad!"

cancel culture in a nutshell. nonsensical outrage by people who want to act like they are morally better then others.

In what line of work are you allowed to publicly say that you would like to have sex with a coworker, and not get disciplined by your employer?

I can think of one very specific segment of the film industry. Beyond that, nope.

The idea that this is somehow new or radical is bull****.

 

[ijuka]

Good news.

 

[Cloned]

In what line of work are you allowed to publicly say that you would like to have sex with a coworker, and not get disciplined by your employer?

I can think of one very specific segment of the film industry. Beyond that, nope.

The idea that this is somehow new or radical is bull****.

Which segment is that?

 

[SurferBroChad]

In what line of work are you allowed to publicly say that you would like to have sex with a coworker, and not get disciplined by your employer?

disciplined, not fired

never said NBC didnt have to do something. just think what they did was drastic and im sure todays me-too climate played a roll. cry about it all you want but thats my opinion.

 

[tiburon12]

I think Roenick is good for the growing the game to a wider audience, so I hope he finds a new outlet. He's willing to put himself out there and actually has a good personality when he doesnt try to be a big media guy. He sucked on NBC, but his brief appearances on Chiclets were great and showcase the kind of energy he can bring. The real JR came through. I've met him a few times, many when i worked at NBC Sports, and he was awesome and personable.

Not surprised, it’s 2020 JR. He’ll start a podcast or something so he can stay in the spotlight.

Once people forget about it in 6 months or so, he’ll join NHL Network. Then in 5-7 years NBC will take him back.

His old Podcast, Roenick Life Pod, was pretty bad. Jaffe was a good co-host, but so much of it was fluffing JR's "say anything" personality that it lacked any real substance. He tried to balance on a line between what Chiclets does and what, say, 31 Thoughts does, and it just didnt work.

 

[tarheelhockey]

disciplined, not fired

never said NBC didnt have to do something. just think what they did was drastic and im sure todays me-too climate played a roll. cry about it all you want but thats my opinion.

I genuinely believe that most corporate or public sector employers would consider “viral video of employee making sexually suggestive comments about another employee” a fireable offense. And it wouldn’t be controversial.

Small businesses, it’s up to them to set their own tone. Can’t really speak to that. But employers on the scale of an NBC? Yeah you’re gonna get walking papers and nobody will shed a tear.

 

[Ratatoskr]

You've never told a buddy you want to nail a chick?

Please

You know, I might have. Here's a few differences to the Roenick situation:

1) I was probably, like, 17 or so at the time. I have matured since.

2) I didn't make those comments about a coworker. I didn't have coworkers back then, just classmates.

3) I made those comments in a private conversation, not on a public platform where they would be heard by many thousands of people.

 

[SurferBroChad]

You know, I might have. Here's a few differences to the Roenick situation:

1) I was probably, like, 17 or so at the time. I have matured since.

2) I didn't make those comments about a coworker. I didn't have coworkers back then, just classmates.

3) I made those comments in a private conversation, not on a public platform where they would be heard by many thousands of people.

lol @ people on here thinking they need to prove they are a better person then roenick

im sure roenicks done far worse then this

 

[Claypool]

In what line of work are you allowed to publicly say that you would like to have sex with a coworker, and not get disciplined by your employer?

Well apparently Roenick would have been fine if he only talked about banging Patrick Sharp.

 

[Pizza!Pizza!]

Well apparently Roenick would have been fine if he only talked about banging Patrick Sharp.

100%.

He also should have gone on the attack instead of apologizing and attacked NBC for not having a diverse broadcast team.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Good, who cares about misogynists.

If you're upset about this news at all you're not living in the current decade and should make the necessary adjustments.

 

[The Shovel Penguin]

Not surprised. It put Tappen in an uncomfortable spot. Even though they are/were friends -- regardless of whether or not she was actually offended on a personal level and willing to forgive him -- given the context of underlying issues and climate she wasn't going to just publicly brush it off and put herself and NBC in hot water by doing so. The damage was done, it was in the network's best interest to just shut it down and move on.

In the longer run, it allows Roenick to have more freedom in the future by not having to answer to a major network. Like Don Cherry -- these days JR has plenty of options as far as independent broadcasting -- youtube and podcasts and the like. He's always been a loose cannon at times so I think that direction will be more suitable for him.

I find it mystifying that Milbury is there and what his appeal is. But then again I don't really remember the good old days when he beat a fan with a shoe.

 

[Alicat]

disciplined, not fired

never said NBC didnt have to do something. just think what they did was drastic and im sure todays me-too climate played a roll. cry about it all you want but thats my opinion.

Oh no, I’d fire you, after an investigation of course. Zero tolerance for this stuff in the workplace.

In JR’s case he was suspended for some time while they investigated. He’s also admitted to be disciplined before which is why this was likely the last straw.

I’ve sadly experienced this kind of behavior more than once and let me tell you, it impacted me in ways I care not to discuss here.

 

[ThirdManIn]

First of all if I even did it would absolutely be with a women I knew well and would take it as the joke that it was . It’s hard to even tell what the outrage was about, was it because it was a sexual comment made toward a women or was it over our extremely sexual suppressed country. I mean come on we show people fighting and bleeding in hockey and we can’t let someone apologize for a comment he made that was admittedly inappropriate.

What's second though? First of all, you would only ever make a comment about wanting to have sex with a coworker if you knew that coworker would take it as a joke. Second, you would what? Deny it was a big deal if others heard it and were offended? Tell them that there is no reason they should feel offended? Tell them that what you really meant was something else? Tell them that you're not a bad person and mistakes are made so no harm, no foul? What's next? Is that the part where you try to dictate to everyone how they should feel based on your own clouded judgment of the situation? I'm curious.

 

[Alicat]

I genuinely believe that most corporate or public sector employers would consider “viral video of employee making sexually suggestive comments about another employee” a fireable offense. And it wouldn’t be controversial.

Small businesses, it’s up to them to set their own tone. Can’t really speak to that. But employers on the scale of an NBC? Yeah you’re gonna get walking papers and nobody will shed a tear.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

We’d investigate to get all documentation, search the employee’s computer to see if they used company property to make said video and then toss you out after consulting with legal.

I’ve actually seen a colleague get fired for ignoring multiple claims of sexual harassment. Mind boggling shit.

 

[ThirdManIn]

disciplined, not fired

never said NBC didnt have to do something. just think what they did was drastic and im sure todays me-too climate played a roll. cry about it all you want but thats my opinion.

Discipline up to and including termination. JR can attempt to make a case for wrongful termination if he really wants to, but that'll be a tough row to hoe.

 

[Alicat]

Discipline up to and including termination. JR can attempt to make a case for wrongful termination if he really wants to, but that'll be a tough row to hoe.

Especially if he’s had prior discipline for incidents we don’t know about. Chances are he received a hefty severance and signed a release which waives his right to sueNBC.

 

[swiftwin]

Well no....they didn’t make the big fuss about it, that’s my point. The back lash had to come from somewhere other than the supposed victims obviously

What backlash? Do you have any proof of this supposed backlash before JR was suspended?