Jeremy Colliton Thread 2

[LDF]

I was high on Colliton when we promoted him to head coach, but he’s been completely disappointing. The silver lining is that he may help us have a shot at getting Lafreniere.

my question is what happen from the team that was look to be improve last season ??

 

[Backyard Hockey]

Same issues over last few seasons - D core is bad, team defense is brutal, special teams issues and the team does not have 4 centers.

 

[Bubba88]

We won against TB with the Goalie being a #1, the Defense playing like a D and the offense generating pressure and scoring the Goals when needed - and the last post here was 2 days ago? Let me guess, Fluke or doesn't matter?

 

[Hawkaholic]

We won against TB with the Goalie being a #1, the Defense playing like a D and the offense generating pressure and scoring the Goals when needed - and the last post here was 2 days ago? Let me guess, Fluke or doesn't matter?

Both

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

What a f***ing joke of a coach

An absolute disaster

Fire him now!

 

[ColbyChaos]

How tf did it take basically an entire season and down 3-0 to Vegas to put Strome and DeBrincat back together?

 

[blackhawks1229]

Just look at the ice time allocation. It’s not that they lost it’s HOW they lost.

 

[bwana63]

($): Lazerus: Is Jeremy Colliton the right coach for the Blackhawks?

Good article, IMO.

 

[Muffinalt]

($): Lazerus: Is Jeremy Colliton the right coach for the Blackhawks?

Good article, IMO.

Agree, the best I've read from Lazerus yet.

I chuckled at the beginning about the JC haters, he must be reading some posts here.

I agree with him the next half a season is where the decision gets made about JC.

 

[Brightwing]

From Pierre LeBrun in the Athletic:

Coaches on expiring contracts

As I wrote in October, there are six NHL head coaches approaching the season on expiring deals. Travis Green (Vancouver), John Tortorella (Columbus), Jeremy Colliton (Chicago), Jeff Blashill (Detroit), Rick Tocchet (Arizona) and Rod Brind’Amour (Carolina) are up after this season.

If I had to guess, Colliton gets an extension early in the season, Green gets one during the season and Tortorella and Brind’Amour before the regular season ends May 8. We’ll see how things play out with Blashill and Tocchet.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

From Pierre LeBrun in the Athletic:

Coaches on expiring contracts

As I wrote in October, there are six NHL head coaches approaching the season on expiring deals. Travis Green (Vancouver), John Tortorella (Columbus), Jeremy Colliton (Chicago), Jeff Blashill (Detroit), Rick Tocchet (Arizona) and Rod Brind’Amour (Carolina) are up after this season.

If I had to guess, Colliton gets an extension early in the season, Green gets one during the season and Tortorella and Brind’Amour before the regular season ends May 8. We’ll see how things play out with Blashill and Tocchet.

 

[ClydeLee]

Stan said he was probably going to back awhile ago

 

[BK]

Stan said he was probably going to back awhile ago

Exactly, how is anyone shocked at this point? Would I extend him? No

 

[x Tame Impala]

Colliton: Head Coach and Head Tank Commander

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Exactly, how is anyone shocked at this point? Would I extend him? No

Not shocked, but it sucks. I don't think JC is ready to be an NHL coach yet. He needed more time in the AHL.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Also a bit of a rough spot considering the coaches even available. Besides Gallant (who I think is holding out for Seattle) and (Jim Monty who is dealing with alcoholism and may be blackballed by the league now based on how his Dallas tenure is rumored to have ended)

you basically have to pick a retread guy that failed out a few seasons ago like MacLellan, or the other option basically is to pick an abusive asshole like Babcok or Peters. Not a whole lot of options available

 

[BK]

Not shocked, but it sucks. I don't think JC is ready to be an NHL coach yet. He needed more time in the AHL.

It wasn't really directed at you. More at the people who are shocked on twitter, etc.

 

[Pez68]

I want to see Colliton succeed because I'm tired of all these f***ing retreads and old boy's club members. There are a lot of great hockey minds out there and it would be nice to see new blood in the league.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I want to see Colliton succeed because I'm tired of all these f***ing retreads and old boy's club members. There are a lot of great hockey minds out there and it would be nice to see new blood in the league.

I want to see him succeed too, but the evidence says he sucks....so far. The Hawks have no clue in their own zone and I think it has to do with his defensive system.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Bring back mike Keenan

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I want to see him succeed too, but the evidence says he sucks....so far. The Hawks have no clue in their own zone and I think it has to do with his defensive system.

Mark Eaton said in his Hawks Talk interview last month that Colliton’s system is actually very common around the league, and it was Quenneville’s that was unusual.

He then said the veterans were used to Quenneville’s system.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Mark Eaton said in his Hawks Talk interview last month that Colliton’s system is actually very common around the league, and it was Quenneville’s that was unusual.

He then said the veterans were used to Quenneville’s system.

If you look at the players on D they shouldn't suck this badly.

 

[Brightwing]

I want to see him succeed too, but the evidence says he sucks....so far. The Hawks have no clue in their own zone and I think it has to do with his defensive system.

But what if the issue is that they are not a strong team defensively? Like it doesn't really seem like Colliton is asking them to do anything super weird.

And you are ignoring the defensive decline we saw under Q as well.

The reality is this team does not have a proper top pair of dmen and we have several defensively flawed, offensively gifted forwards.

If you look at when this team looked especially brutal, it was stretches when Murphy or de Haan were injured.

I actually can't tell if he is a good coach or not because the team is so flawed. The performance against the Oilers makes me lean towards that he is fine. But when you look at how much the Hawks relied on Dach in the playoffs as a 19 year old, it underscores the team's flaws.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

But what if the issue is that they are not a strong team defensively? Like it doesn't really seem like Colliton is asking them to do anything super weird.

And you are ignoring the defensive decline we saw under Q as well.

The reality is this team does not have a proper top pair of dmen and we have several defensively flawed, offensively gifted forwards.

If you look at when this team looked especially brutal, it was stretches when Murphy or de Haan were injured.

I actually can't tell if he is a good coach or not because the team is so flawed. The performance against the Oilers makes me lean towards that he is fine. But when you look at how much the Hawks relied on Dach in the playoffs as a 19 year old, it underscores the team's flaws.

Idk what to call Keith these days. It's arguable whether or not that averages out to a low end #2.
Murphy and de Haan are good when healthy.
Boqvist is young, and we haven't seen Zadorov on the Hawks.

It's possible that they just suck, but they're not going to get better unless they draft or sign someone that's an actual top pair D.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Bring in European HC!.

I'm tired of these AHL, CHL & NCAA coaches getting "promoted"
Why not get best possible head coach available???

There are soooooo many awesome coaches,..you know,..elsewhere, to be signed
No GM has had the balls to do that move yet thou, who ever is the "first", will hit the jack pot.