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Player Discussion Jeff Skinner - Part II
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On hockey central? That's impossible, they only talk about the Leafs
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By the way, I couldn't find where they said this, but maybe someone else will find it.
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Doubtful we'll see that.
He'd be leaving potentially millions on the table.
Let's compare a 7 year, 49M deal vs a 4 year, 34M deal
If we're assume a "standard" salary structure for both (i.e. straight salary, not significant amount in signing bonuses)
The first obvious issue is the 2020 lockout issue. Now, I'm assuming there will be some structural ways to protect from that on both (minimize salary/maximize signing bonus during that year). However, there might be some serious structural changes to how contracts work (basically stopping the 8M SB/ 1M salary style deals) which could cost skinner some long term cash. There is also the potential of the compliance buyout, which have been a boon to the players who have gotten them. Under a longer term deal, Skinner could play 4 years, get the final 3 years CBO'd, then sign at a lower rate someplace else.
It's almost always best for the player to take the most guaranteed total $$ on paper, irregardless of term. Taking a shorter term, higher pay deal could yield more, but is more likely to yield less $ overall as its doubtful he'll another long term deal at the age of 31 or higher.
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I'm not finding anything on Twitter....
I think there was some talking head that mentioned that number a while ago and the general reaction around here was "sign me up for that!".
My guess is that is more the Sabres offer than what Skinner is looking for. I would think that if all it took was $6.5M per to re-sign Skinner, the deal would have been done already.
I did find this....
I've said this a few times: I think Skinner is going to be underwhelmed by his market value. I think the most likely scenario is he goes to market and gets the Evander Kane deal. Not sure if that is with us or elsewhere
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I'm having a hard time determining which part of this is more wrong.
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Please feel free to point out all of what is wrong in that statement. I don't mind. Start with Skinner's 2 goals in 20 games on go from there. I am interested in a good laugh.
Skinner didn't give up he just had bad "puck luck"
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He's playing the same as he has all season.Please feel free to point out all of what is wrong in that statement. I don't mind. Start with Skinner's 2 goals in 20 games on go from there. I am interested in a good laugh.
Skinner didn't give up he just had bad "puck luck"
Skinner shot 19% for dozens of games, and was at something like 1% during the cold streak.
We're going to get a similar Skinner going forward, but those extremes won't be as large. So while he likely won't play half the season like a 55 goal scorer, he won't play the other half like a 10 goal scorer either. This season was just a season of extremes, unlikely to be repeated exactly the same way, even if results were similar.
I counted about 5 goalposts/crossbars and countless close bounces/excellent saves off of Skinner shots during the streak. He really was the same player - in fact, I'd argue he's the player whose play changed the least as our season tanked. He just kept right on playing. He's a competitor. People just don't like the nature of players whose by-far-best-asset is goal scoring. That won't ever change, just like the streaky nature of these players won't ever change.
We're going to get a similar Skinner going forward, but those extremes won't be as large. So while he likely won't play half the season like a 55 goal scorer, he won't play the other half like a 10 goal scorer either. This season was just a season of extremes, unlikely to be repeated exactly the same way, even if results were similar.
I counted about 5 goalposts/crossbars and countless close bounces/excellent saves off of Skinner shots during the streak. He really was the same player - in fact, I'd argue he's the player whose play changed the least as our season tanked. He just kept right on playing. He's a competitor. People just don't like the nature of players whose by-far-best-asset is goal scoring. That won't ever change, just like the streaky nature of these players won't ever change.
Only part of Skinner quit on the team. The ankle he sprained clearly wanted no f***ing part of this any more.
As for the rest... no.
Look at this quitter scoring twice so far and hitting a post in the last meaningless game of the season.
Sign him.
Sign him.
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IMO I think he really wants to be here. They just need to find out the right number that works for both sides.
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I've never seen him take a shift off or not go all out until the whistle. He's always in the thick of the battle even after the whistle. There's no quit in Skinner. He's one of the most competitive players in the NHL.
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Skinner May have lost velocity on shot after ...Please feel free to point out all of what is wrong in that statement. I don't mind. Start with Skinner's 2 goals in 20 games on go from there. I am interested in a good laugh.
Skinner didn't give up he just had bad "puck luck"
Not much different than jack “giving up” after his concussion ubi and his going from the best (near) in the league to being unable to score much for 7? 10? ,
Not that they didn’t make a group effort to hit the goalie in the numbers after the playoffs went bye bye.. We may never know if this is purposeful especially if Skinner signs.. Which will truly be a tell if this group gets along..
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That is my feeling and I hope the rumors are a players against Jason scenario which benefits Skinner and started w Berglund? Or not replacing him for playoffs and hanging them out there by sticking to the next year plan .. Results in driving STH away with no goal revue .. They certainly knew how to play the last two .. They might get somebody fired with the group dissent .. Tune in Tomorrow same bap channel and bap time ..Or Not , and I’m wrong and insane by being abused and teased by this team.. Jeezus chrith Im thso ffragile now..
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If Skinner tests free agency then bye bye. The whole point of waiving his trade clause was to be close to home.
If Skinner walks Botts needs to be fired instantly. The only thing partially redeeming the RoR trade and epic collapse was acquiring a high end goal scorer for peanuts. If he walks it should be the end of Botterill here.
If Skinner walks Botts needs to be fired instantly. The only thing partially redeeming the RoR trade and epic collapse was acquiring a high end goal scorer for peanuts. If he walks it should be the end of Botterill here.
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