Jason Strudwick Show

guymez

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Jets fan, I come in peace.

Jets apparently receive the most minor penalties of any team in the league. Paul Maurice has been asked repeatedly about this, and the other day he finally said he didn't mind - he wanted the team to play with an edge, so if that meant they received a lot of penalties so be it.

So yeah, I would tend to agree with you about the Oilers.

The Jets are a fun team to watch. As a group they get their noses dirty which also makes them a tough to to play against.

Without some changes the Oilers will never be that type of team.

Hall and Schultz (and Eberle) simply do not have that element in their game. Asking them to play gritty is simply not sustainable for them long term.

That said...as Strudwick pointed out...in a scrum situation all they have to do is grab somebody. No punches need to be thrown...just act like you care.

Thats really not asking for much IMO and they shouldnt have to be told this.
 

nexttothemoon

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getting suspended means you don't get paid. I would care about the consequences

Ya the players are playing for money... not for each other and not showing the passion to actually be a competitive winning team.

As to losing money to a suspension... peanuts. If this team was a hard working, gritty team that actually gave a ****... every year they'd be making bonus playoff money as well... which would more than make up for the occasional "indiscretion" on the ice that comes from the heat of the moment passion of playing gritty competitive hockey where your heart is in the game and you've got the backs of your teammates.

That's all lost on this team... WAY too many playing safe for a big paycheck and all the heart and soul is gone from this team.
 

beaterson

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Meh, Hall used to be like that until Derek Dorset and general apathy beat it out of him.

Man he was great to watch, even his rookie year. Just everything you'd want in a winger.
 

McShogun99

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The really need to weed out the wimps on this team. Schultz and Eberle should be traded and if we draft Mcdavid, so should RNH. Yakupov is horrible right now but at least he shows some heart and you can still see potential with him. I could see Hall starting to care more once this team is winning but can he put up with another 2-3 seasons of losing while Mcdavid, Draisaitl and Nurse mature?
 

guymez

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The really need to weed out the wimps on this team. Schultz and Eberle should be traded and if we draft Mcdavid, so should RNH. Yakupov is horrible right now but at least he shows some heart and you can still see potential with him. I could see Hall starting to care more once this team is winning but can he put up with another 2-3 seasons of losing while Mcdavid, Draisaitl and Nurse mature?

The team has apparently made a choice between Schultz and Petry. They choose Schultz and Petry will be traded and not be re-signed.

So in essence the team has made a choice about its identity as well.
 

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Absolutely loved this interview. I'm so sick of these "talented" kids turning a blind eye to these scrums. Hall, Eberle, Schultz? They will NEVER make the sacrifice for the team - way too individualistic. Wnough excuses, this core has major issues. Pouliot getting jumped and Hall , as a alternate captain , skates away lol.. You wonder why he's not a captain? He doesn't give that extra 5%, just coasts.
 

oilerbear

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Wow. Strudwick just rips the pansies who didnt help their teammate.

They changed the coach but the attitude is still pretty much the same.

Yeah I especially hate Captains like Crosby and Giroux who do not get in those situations.

Strip them of there C's and trade them!

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Strudwick is a moron!

Do you really want to belong to that club!
 

Connor Mcdavey*

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Yeah I especially hate Captains like Crosby and Giroux who do not get in those situations.

Strip them of there C's and trade them!

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Strudwick is a moron!

Do you really want to belong to that club!

Hmm.. Are we seriously comparing giroux and crosby to our core? First of all, Giroux and Crosby have a pulse and if you've been paying any attention you'd know Giroux doesn't back down from anybody. Crosby is the star of the league, and if he gets injured in a scrum it hurts Pittsburghs playoff chances. If Hall takes a jab to the mouth, we still finish last place. And Crosby doesn't have any bottled up anger because they win games, fams are upset because not only are the core playing **** hockey, but they won't even have enough pride to protect themselves, or their team mates more importanrly in a meaningless season. You want to give Hall a captaincy where he doesn't stick up for his own team mates? People at sunday night shinny defend strangers in a meaningless league when **** hits the fan. Taylor Hall and Schultz? Not even in the same hemisphere
 

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Hmm.. Are we seriously comparing giroux and crosby to our core? First of all, Giroux and Crosby have a pulse and if you've been paying any attention you'd know Giroux doesn't back down from anybody. Crosby is the star of the league, and if he gets injured in a scrum it hurts Pittsburghs playoff chances. If Hall takes a jab to the mouth, we still finish last place. And Crosby doesn't have any bottled up anger because they win games, fams are upset because not only are the core playing **** hockey, but they won't even have enough pride to protect themselves, or their team mates more importanrly in a meaningless season. You want to give Hall a captaincy where he doesn't stick up for his own team mates? People at sunday night shinny defend strangers in a meaningless league when **** hits the fan. Taylor Hall and Schultz? Not even in the same hemisphere

Crosby also won a cup.

He battles like crazy and is in scrums all the time.

Crosby's passion >>>>> Hall's passion.

Schultz... Soon, I hope, we will stop talking about him as if anyone ever uttered anything about Norris potential. He shouldn't even be in the same breath.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Norris potential...

:laugh:
 

bucks_oil

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The team has apparently made a choice between Schultz and Petry. They choose Schultz and Petry will be traded and not be re-signed.

So in essence the team has made a choice about its identity as well.

You thought Petry had a much more "give-a-care" attitude than Schultz?!??! :help::dunno::facepalm:

Man, our standards have fallen so so low...
 

bucks_oil

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Yeah I especially hate Captains like Crosby and Giroux who do not get in those situations.

Strip them of there C's and trade them!

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Strudwick is a moron!

Do you really want to belong to that club!

It's not about taking the first swing or any swing... it's about getting into the game and showing some push back. Get in the guys face and have some words at least... this is a game played by MEN for F's sake!

I've seen more passion displayed in my beer league. And the entire league reshuffles the teams every season (3 times a year) so we are most likely jawing at somebody we played with before.

That's what this game does when you have any semblance of competitiveness.

AND Giroux and Crosby most DEFINITELY do this. Our guys bow their heads and coast away because every ounce of competitive spirit has been sapped from them.

MacT needs to shake up this core so that those that remain (and individually I like them all) can get a jolt of reality and remind themselves that a team lives, dies and loses their jobs TOGETHER.

If I was MacT it would be two of our "elites" for an elite Alpha, followed by filling every available bottom six or bottom pairing spot with a guy like Hendricks. Most of the guys we have need to go simply because they've done too much of the heavy emotional lifting on their own (see Horcoff) and have also lost or are losing their will to compete.

Inflicted by the toxic environment of losing...
 

ThePhoenixx

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It's not about taking the first swing or any swing... it's about getting into the game and showing some push back. Get in the guys face and have some words at least... this is a game played by MEN for F's sake!

I've seen more passion displayed in my beer league. And the entire league reshuffles the teams every season (3 times a year) so we are most likely jawing at somebody we played with before.

That's what this game does when you have any semblance of competitiveness.

AND Giroux and Crosby most DEFINITELY do this. Our guys bow their heads and coast away because every ounce of competitive spirit has been sapped from them.

MacT needs to shake up this core so that those that remain (and individually I like them all) can get a jolt of reality and remind themselves that a team lives, dies and loses their jobs TOGETHER.

If I was MacT it would be two of our "elites" for an elite Alpha, followed by filling every available bottom six or bottom pairing spot with a guy like Hendricks. Most of the guys we have need to go simply because they've done too much of the heavy emotional lifting on their own (see Horcoff) and have also lost or are losing their will to compete.

Inflicted by the toxic environment of losing...

This is Mactavishs' team. When he coached it was about being gentlemanly with no fights and no checks as they put you out of position.

why is anyone surprised?
 

ThePhoenixx

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This is MacTavishs' career. He was a third/fourth line guy. He rarely hit and rarely fought. His low PIM's were from his tendency for the long-reach-out hook, the slash, and the holding. He was really good at faceoffs and played a good positional game. Good penalty killer.

The team he is trying to build appears to mirror this save for the positional play.

I will say this for him. He did grab a guy when scrums popped yup during a game.



Craig MacTavish #14Center
NUMBER: 14 BIRTHDATE: August 15, 1958
HEIGHT: 6' 1" BIRTHPLACE: London, ON, Canada
WEIGHT: 200 DRAFTED: BOS / 1978 NHL Amateur Draft
SHOOTS: Left ROUND: 9th (153rd overall)
STATS
GAME LOG
NOTES
OTHER
CAREER REGULAR SEASON STATISTICS

SEASON TEAM GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
1977-1978 U. OF MASSACHUSETTS-LOWELL-ECAC-2 21 26 19 45
1978-1979 U. OF MASSACHUSETTS-LOWELL-ECAC-2 31 36 52 88
1979-1980 BRUINS 46 11 17 28 16 8 0 0 2 61 18.0
1979-1980 BINGHAMTON DUSTERS-AHL 34 17 15 32 29
1980-1981 BRUINS 24 3 5 8 -1 13 0 0 0 44 6.8
1980-1981 SPRINGFIELD INDIANS-AHL 53 19 24 43 81
1981-1982 BRUINS 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.0
1981-1982 ERIE BLADES-AHL 72 23 32 55 37
1982-1983 BRUINS 75 10 20 30 15 18 0 0 1 120 8.3
1983-1984 BRUINS 70 20 23 43 9 35 7 0 4 135 14.8
1984-1985 BOSTON BRUINS-NHLMGNT
1985-1986 OILERS 74 23 24 47 17 70 4 1 5 121 19.0
1986-1987 OILERS 79 20 19 39 9 55 1 4 2 140 14.3
1987-1988 OILERS 80 15 17 32 -3 47 0 3 5 90 16.7
1988-1989 OILERS 80 21 31 52 10 55 2 4 2 120 17.5
1989-1990 OILERS 80 21 22 43 13 89 1 6 5 109 19.3
1990-1991 OILERS 80 17 15 32 -1 76 2 6 1 113 15.0
1991-1992 OILERS 80 12 18 30 -1 98 0 2 1 86 14.0
1992-1993 OILERS 82 10 20 30 -16 110 0 3 3 101 9.9
1993-1994 OILERS 66 16 10 26 -20 80 0 0 1 97 16.5
1993-1994 RANGERS 12 4 2 6 6 11 1 0 1 25 16.0
1994-1995 FLYERS 45 3 9 12 2 23 0 0 0 38 7.9
1995-1996 FLYERS 55 5 8 13 -3 62 0 0 1 42 11.9
1995-1996 BLUES 13 0 1 1 -6 8 0 0 0 16 0.0
1996-1997 BLUES 50 2 5 7 -12 33 0 0 0 26 7.7
1998-1999 NEW YORK RANGERS-NHLMGNT
1999-2000 EDMONTON OILERS-NHLMGNT
NHL TOTALS 1,093 213 267 480 34 891 18 29 34 1,485 14.3
CAREER PLAYOFF STATISTICS

SEASON TEAM GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
1979-1980 BRUINS 10 2 3 5 7 0 0 0
1980-1981 SPRINGFIELD INDIANS-AHL 7 5 4 9 8
1982-1983 BRUINS 17 3 1 4 18 0 0 0
1983-1984 BRUINS 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1985-1986 OILERS 10 4 4 8 11 1 0 0
1986-1987 OILERS 21 1 9 10 16 0 0 0
1987-1988 OILERS 19 0 1 1 0 31 0 0 0 12 0.0
1988-1989 OILERS 7 0 1 1 1 8 0 0 0 10 0.0
1989-1990 OILERS 22 2 6 8 6 29 0 0 0 21 9.5
1990-1991 OILERS 18 3 3 6 -3 20 0 0 1 24 12.5
1991-1992 OILERS 16 3 0 3 4 28 0 1 1 27 11.1
1993-1994 RANGERS 23 1 4 5 0 22 0 0 0 15 6.7
1994-1995 FLYERS 15 1 4 5 -3 20 0 0 0 13 7.7
1995-1996 BLUES 13 0 2 2 0 6 0 0 0 11 0.0
1996-1997 BLUES 1 0 0 0 -1 2 0 0 0 0 0.0
NHL TOTALS 193 20 38 58 4 218 1 1 2 133
 
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Dorian2

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Hall is taking a lot of heat here, and rightfully so.

However, does anybody know if Hallsy still has that knee brace on?

Even holding a player and possibly falling the wrong way could lead to a pretty serious injury (in Hall's case), with a wonky knee. Depending on the nature of the injury, could even be career ending.

Does anyone know what's happening with the brace situation?

Justin Schultz has no excuses at all though.
 

Summary

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Hall is taking a lot of heat here, and rightfully so.

However, does anybody know if Hallsy still has that knee brace on?

Even holding a player and possibly falling the wrong way could lead to a pretty serious injury (in Hall's case), with a wonky knee. Depending on the nature of the injury, could even be career ending.

Does anyone know what's happening with the brace situation?

Justin Schultz has no excuses at all though.

That would apply to everyone regardless of knee brace status. There's always the chance of a freak injury, a preexisting one only gives a slimmer margin for error and that definitely shouldn't be in his head in the heat of the moment (if he even had any heat in him at that moment). If such is in his head to that extent he shouldn't be back yet because playing hockey full speed is a lot of times more likely to cause or aggravate an injury.

That being said, Hall has stated he's not playing injured right now and the fact remains they were six skaters to five.
 
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Yeah I especially hate Captains like Crosby and Giroux who do not get in those situations.

Strip them of there C's and trade them!

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Strudwick is a moron!

Do you really want to belong to that club!

Says the guy that stated Horcoff>Crosby.
 

rboomercat90

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This is MacTavishs' career. He was a third/fourth line guy. He rarely hit and rarely fought. His low PIM's were from his tendency for the long-reach-out hook, the slash, and the holding. He was really good at faceoffs and played a good positional game. Good penalty killer.

The team he is trying to build appears to mirror this save for the positional play.

I will say this for him. He did grab a guy when scrums popped yup during a game.



Craig MacTavish #14Center
NUMBER: 14 BIRTHDATE: August 15, 1958
HEIGHT: 6' 1" BIRTHPLACE: London, ON, Canada
WEIGHT: 200 DRAFTED: BOS / 1978 NHL Amateur Draft
SHOOTS: Left ROUND: 9th (153rd overall)
STATS
GAME LOG
NOTES
OTHER
CAREER REGULAR SEASON STATISTICS

SEASON TEAM GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
1977-1978 U. OF MASSACHUSETTS-LOWELL-ECAC-2 21 26 19 45
1978-1979 U. OF MASSACHUSETTS-LOWELL-ECAC-2 31 36 52 88
1979-1980 BRUINS 46 11 17 28 16 8 0 0 2 61 18.0
1979-1980 BINGHAMTON DUSTERS-AHL 34 17 15 32 29
1980-1981 BRUINS 24 3 5 8 -1 13 0 0 0 44 6.8
1980-1981 SPRINGFIELD INDIANS-AHL 53 19 24 43 81
1981-1982 BRUINS 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.0
1981-1982 ERIE BLADES-AHL 72 23 32 55 37
1982-1983 BRUINS 75 10 20 30 15 18 0 0 1 120 8.3
1983-1984 BRUINS 70 20 23 43 9 35 7 0 4 135 14.8
1984-1985 BOSTON BRUINS-NHLMGNT
1985-1986 OILERS 74 23 24 47 17 70 4 1 5 121 19.0
1986-1987 OILERS 79 20 19 39 9 55 1 4 2 140 14.3
1987-1988 OILERS 80 15 17 32 -3 47 0 3 5 90 16.7
1988-1989 OILERS 80 21 31 52 10 55 2 4 2 120 17.5
1989-1990 OILERS 80 21 22 43 13 89 1 6 5 109 19.3
1990-1991 OILERS 80 17 15 32 -1 76 2 6 1 113 15.0
1991-1992 OILERS 80 12 18 30 -1 98 0 2 1 86 14.0
1992-1993 OILERS 82 10 20 30 -16 110 0 3 3 101 9.9
1993-1994 OILERS 66 16 10 26 -20 80 0 0 1 97 16.5
1993-1994 RANGERS 12 4 2 6 6 11 1 0 1 25 16.0
1994-1995 FLYERS 45 3 9 12 2 23 0 0 0 38 7.9
1995-1996 FLYERS 55 5 8 13 -3 62 0 0 1 42 11.9
1995-1996 BLUES 13 0 1 1 -6 8 0 0 0 16 0.0
1996-1997 BLUES 50 2 5 7 -12 33 0 0 0 26 7.7
1998-1999 NEW YORK RANGERS-NHLMGNT
1999-2000 EDMONTON OILERS-NHLMGNT
NHL TOTALS 1,093 213 267 480 34 891 18 29 34 1,485 14.3
CAREER PLAYOFF STATISTICS

SEASON TEAM GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
1979-1980 BRUINS 10 2 3 5 7 0 0 0
1980-1981 SPRINGFIELD INDIANS-AHL 7 5 4 9 8
1982-1983 BRUINS 17 3 1 4 18 0 0 0
1983-1984 BRUINS 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1985-1986 OILERS 10 4 4 8 11 1 0 0
1986-1987 OILERS 21 1 9 10 16 0 0 0
1987-1988 OILERS 19 0 1 1 0 31 0 0 0 12 0.0
1988-1989 OILERS 7 0 1 1 1 8 0 0 0 10 0.0
1989-1990 OILERS 22 2 6 8 6 29 0 0 0 21 9.5
1990-1991 OILERS 18 3 3 6 -3 20 0 0 1 24 12.5
1991-1992 OILERS 16 3 0 3 4 28 0 1 1 27 11.1
1993-1994 RANGERS 23 1 4 5 0 22 0 0 0 15 6.7
1994-1995 FLYERS 15 1 4 5 -3 20 0 0 0 13 7.7
1995-1996 BLUES 13 0 2 2 0 6 0 0 0 11 0.0
1996-1997 BLUES 1 0 0 0 -1 2 0 0 0 0 0.0
NHL TOTALS 193 20 38 58 4 218 1 1 2 133
His 1984-85 season is listed as Boston Bruins NHL mgnt. Is that what they're calling it these days?:sarcasm:
 

NewBoysClub97*

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I didn't even watch the game yesterday. Didn't know about this scrum. Not surprised.

Team is full of a lot of pansies. Some of that is just this depressing losing culture, but you can't turn a blind eye to a scrum.

Petry has shown he is a "scrum runner". Schultz could get punched in the face and he wouldn't even talk back to a guy.

Hall probably just doesn't a **** now. Playing for nothing. Too much of the season left. Probably looking forward to the end of it and a nice Vegas trip with the boyz.
 

NewBoysClub97*

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Strudwick's show has always been great. I ALWAYS listen to his. Never CHED. I like no holds barred criticism when it is deserved.

Can you download his podcasts?
 

McGoMcD

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Crosby also won a cup.

He battles like crazy and is in scrums all the time.

Crosby's passion >>>>> Hall's passion.

Schultz... Soon, I hope, we will stop talking about him as if anyone ever uttered anything about Norris potential. He shouldn't even be in the same breath.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Norris potential...

:laugh:

Crosby has lost a bit of his passion since all his injuries which is honestly understandable.

It is hard to say, I just hope when the team starts winning the passion shows up. Right now it is sad though.
 

abootzky

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Understandably Jason said, "No. It's not my place", when asked (in a text) if he'd ever say anything about this topic to Hall or any of the others still on the team who were there when he was. It would be nice however if Struds or any other media member would ask MacT if the Oilers players repeatedly not backing one other up is a concern to him.
 

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