James Neal will score 40+ goals this year

[Paralyzer]

Uh why can't it be bought out?

This is why. Lucic's Buyout:

Vs Neal's Buyout:

At least, with Neal's contract, you'd get savings instantly. However, you will get no savings in the first 3 years. So Essentially, Flames got the worse of the 2 contracts based on instant savings, and since you got contract extensions on Tkachuk and Gaudreau, and trying to keep the rest of the roster (or at least equivalent talent) is gonna get tougher. And like we discussed earlier, the NMC screws the Flames in the Expansion too as there is no 100% guarantee he will 'waive' his NMC to be expansion exposed. Just on those factors alone, Neal is the better of the 2 contracts.

 

[Hatrix]

Who is repeatedly getting swept in the first round?

And it what universe is being a bottom 5 team better than being a play-off team?

Barely winning a single game to me is no different then being swept but keep splitting hairs...

Historically the shames have only made the playoffs twice more then the Oilers with far less success. That essentially says everything we need to know if you'd rather focus on the past rather then the present.

 

[VainGretzky]

What? Neals value would likely only continue to drop in Calgary.

Value can't drop lower than Lucic and his worst NMC in the league

 

[Muffin]

This is why. Lucic's Buyout:

Vs Neal's Buyout:

At least, with Neal's contract, you'd get savings instantly. However, you will get no savings in the first 3 years. So Essentially, Flames got the worse of the 2 contracts based on instant savings, and since you got contract extensions on Tkachuk and Gaudreau, and trying to keep the rest of the roster (or at least equivalent talent) is gonna get tougher. And like we discussed earlier, the NMC screws the Flames in the Expansion too as there is no 100% guarantee he will 'waive' his NMC to be expansion exposed. Just on those factors alone, Neal is the better of the 2 contracts.

Doesn't Edmonton only have like 200k in cap space? Can Calgary buy out Lucic just to screw with the Oilers? It'd probably be worth it to do that than actually put him on the ice and waste a roster spot.

 

[gordonhught]

At least I'll see 5 playoff games. You'd figure after a 10 year rebuild you guys would be a bit further along.

2009–10	Did not qualify
2010–11	Did not qualify
2011–12	Did not qualify
2012–13	Did not qualify
2013–14	Did not qualify
2014–15	Won in First Round, 4–2 (Canucks) Lost in Second Round, 1–4 (Ducks)
2015–16	Did not qualify
2016–17	Lost in First Round, 0–4 (Ducks)
2017–18	Did not qualify
2018–19	Lost in First Round, 1–4 (Avalanche)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Guess which team? 6 playoff wins in 10 years.

 

[2023FriendshipTour]

13-14 Avs won the Central too? Fact is Calgary hasn't made the playoffs in consecutive seasons since 08-09(10 YEARS AGO), no one takes a team seriously until they're a consistent playoff team.

I guess the analysts know nothing. That Avs team rode unsustainable numbers .. similar to the current Oilers.

 

[Hatrix]

Doesn't Edmonton only have like 200k in cap space? Can Calgary buy out Lucic just to screw with the Oilers? It'd probably be worth it to do that than actually put him on the ice and waste a roster spot.

It would make no difference for the Oilers since Lucic's portion of the contract is already on the books and is expected to be until completion. Not to mention, 24+ million in cap opens up next year

 

[djpatm]

Year	Playoff Results:
06-07	Did not qualify.
07-08	Did not qualify.
08-09	Did not qualify.
09-10	Did not qualify.
10-11	Did not qualify.
11-12	Did not qualify.
12-13	Did not qualify.
13-14	Did not qualify.
14-15	Did not qualify.
15-16	Did not qualify.
16-17	2nd round loss.
17-18	Did not qualify.
18-19	Did not qualify.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Guess which team?

lol they win 4 games and they think they're in a position to throw shade at the results of the team that finished first in the west last year. Classic Edmonton.

 

[gordonhught]

Year	Playoff Results:
06-07	Did not qualify.
07-08	Did not qualify.
08-09	Did not qualify.
09-10	Did not qualify.
10-11	Did not qualify.
11-12	Did not qualify.
12-13	Did not qualify.
13-14	Did not qualify.
14-15	Did not qualify.
15-16	Did not qualify.
16-17	2nd round loss.
17-18	Did not qualify.
18-19	Did not qualify.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Guess which team?

lol they win 4 games and they think they're in a position to throw shade at the results of the team that finished first in the west last year. Classic Edmonton.

Good luck with that Lucic contract.

 

[djpatm]

Good luck with that Lucic contract.

Good luck at the lottery, again.

 

[Paralyzer]

Year	Playoff Results:
06-07	Did not qualify.
07-08	Did not qualify.
08-09	Did not qualify.
09-10	Did not qualify.
10-11	Did not qualify.
11-12	Did not qualify.
12-13	Did not qualify.
13-14	Did not qualify.
14-15	Did not qualify.
15-16	Did not qualify.
16-17	2nd round loss.
17-18	Did not qualify.
18-19	Did not qualify.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Guess which team?

lol they win 4 games and they think they're in a position to throw shade at the results of the team that finished first in the west last year. Classic Edmonton.

Funny since we won more playoff series in that stretch. Don't know why you need to make yourself look dumb by posting this lol.

 

[2023FriendshipTour]

Good luck with that Lucic contract.

He'll provide as much as Neal did, which was squat and we still finished first.

 

[Baxterman]

Barely winning a single game to me is no different then being swept but keep splitting hairs...

Historically the shames have only made the playoffs twice more then the Oilers with far less success. That essentially says everything we need to know if you'd rather focus on the past rather then the present.

I'm not splitting hairs I am asking a legit question and if that repeatedly getting swept in the first round BS was meant for the Flames it makes zero sense anyways.

And it still ignores the main point that getting swept in the first round is always better than being a bottom 5 team.

 

[Paperbagofglory]

This is why. Lucic's Buyout:

Vs Neal's Buyout:

At least, with Neal's contract, you'd get savings instantly. However, you will get no savings in the first 3 years. So Essentially, Flames got the worse of the 2 contracts based on instant savings, and since you got contract extensions on Tkachuk and Gaudreau, and trying to keep the rest of the roster (or at least equivalent talent) is gonna get tougher. And like we discussed earlier, the NMC screws the Flames in the Expansion too as there is no 100% guarantee he will 'waive' his NMC to be expansion exposed. Just on those factors alone, Neal is the better of the 2 contracts.

Lucic is a West coast boy. As soon as Seattle enters the NHL he would be the first guy to jump at the opportunity to waive his NMC to play there. The problem is would Seattle want him? He better start playing like a useful part of the team if he wants that to come true. You have to wonder if there was some sort of silent agreement between him and the flames. There is no way they would want him around another 4 seasons.

There has to be more to the trade that we will never find out about.

 

[djpatm]

Funny since we won more playoff series in that stretch. Don't know why you need to make yourself look dumb by posting this lol.

1) No you didn't.
2) Keep telling yourself missing the playoffs 12 out of 13 years is totally cool and better than making it regularly and not winning the cup. Playing meaningful games in March is such a drag man...

 

[gordonhught]

He'll provide as much as Neal did, which was squat and we still finished first.

Last I checked, the Oilers were ahead of the Flamers in the standings this year.

 

[McTrashBoat]

No you didn't.

Oh right, just won more games is all

 

[Baxterman]

Funny since we won more playoff series in that stretch. Don't know why you need to make yourself look dumb by posting this lol.

Who cares?

It is one of, if not the, worst runs in professional sports but because you won more series than another team you think that is something to brag about?

 

[McFlyingV]

Year	Playoff Results:
06-07	Did not qualify.
07-08	Did not qualify.
08-09	Did not qualify.
09-10	Did not qualify.
10-11	Did not qualify.
11-12	Did not qualify.
12-13	Did not qualify.
13-14	Did not qualify.
14-15	Did not qualify.
15-16	Did not qualify.
16-17	2nd round loss.
17-18	Did not qualify.
18-19	Did not qualify.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Guess which team?

lol they win 4 games and they think they're in a position to throw shade at the results of the team that finished first in the west last year. Classic Edmonton.

7* which is more than Calgary over the same time period. Cool we both suck. Let's get back to talking about the Real Deal. I bet he outproduces 2 players in Calgary's top 6 this year.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Last I checked, the Oilers were ahead of the Flamers in the standings this year.

And if Neal can continue to shoot at 46.7%, the Oilers will probably finish 1st this year too.

 

[gordonhught]

Lucic is a West coast boy. As soon as Seattle enters the NHL he would be the first guy to jump at the opportunity to waive his NMC to play there. The problem is would Seattle want him? He better start playing better if he wants that to come true and if that was some sort of silent agreement between him and the Flames.

There has to be more to the trade that we will never find out about.

There is. Lucic wanted to play top 6 minutes and he was no good. He was pushed down the lineup and pouted. Then he got traded.

He got traded for James Neal who is leading the league in goals scored. Cha-ching.

 

[Baxterman]

Lucic is a West coast boy. As soon as Seattle enters the NHL he would be the first guy to jump at the opportunity to waive his NMC to play there. The problem is would Seattle want him? He better start playing better if he wants that to come true and if that was some sort of silent agreement between him and the Flames.

There has to be more to the trade that we will never find out about.

No chance Seattle takes him unless there is add-ons from the Flames and there is no reason for the Flames to add on or any indication that ownership would make a move like that.

I am not sure why there has to be more to this deal than what we already know. Neal was terrible in Calgary and not good enough to help out. He has a horrible deal that no other team in the NHL wanted. After shopping him around the only deal out there was for another terrible player with a terrible deal who the Flames thought could play on the 4th line. Its a pretty straight forward deal to understand.

 

[2023FriendshipTour]

Last I checked, the Oilers were ahead of the Flamers in the standings this year.

If only the season ended today.

 

[djpatm]

Oh right, just won more games is all

lol congrats. How were the other 12 out of 13 years?

 

[McFlyingV]

The real question we should be asking is will James Neal score more goals than Lucic has shots this year? He's up by 6 right now.