I would be disappointed if they signed him. I don’t think he’s part of the solution. Would get rid of some losing culture in the room if they didn’t sign him and maybe make some guys uncomfortable.
Sportsnet: Jake Gardiner Talk
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Macallan18
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I am a Jake fan, but the back issue scares me. Re-sign Muzzin with the dollars. And trade for and sign Trouba!
I mean, our left side is find.
Rielly
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Rosen
Then we have Dermott playing the right side when he returns.
To me, if we get enough cap room to spend 5+ on Gardiner, I would much rather go to Vegas, and offer a draft pick and/or a prospect to get Colin Miller for our right side. Cheaper, doesn't have a worn down back either.
NO. NO. NO.
The Leafs never want to win anything, do they? "Hey, this guy's choked multiple times in pressure situations and is a guy the opponents target in the playoffs because he's a mistake-prone gaffe machine, let's LOCK HIM UP! 8 more years of watching him cost us series!"
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BertCorbeau
F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
I think Friedman is just connecting dots here and there's nothing more to the story.
Gardiner essentially means that that Leafs won't be able to re-sign one of Muzzin, Kadri, Rielly, or Andersen in the future.
Time to move on.
Gardiner essentially means that that Leafs won't be able to re-sign one of Muzzin, Kadri, Rielly, or Andersen in the future.
Time to move on.
Because GARDINER f***ING SUCKS...
its time to move on from Gardiner. I don't mind him as a dman but investing in him long term is a recipe for disaster. Already late 20's and having back issue etc. Polarizing for some fans, its just not worth using our tight cap on him
Dreakmur
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There's a difference between trusting him.... and simply understanding he was the best option. I'm not sure what Babcock thinks of him, because Gardiner has usually been the best of the bad options.
Exactly what I was going to write. He's a good player but get's exposed in the playoffs. Time to move on.
Bomber0104
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Fingers crossed he ends up with a playoff team in the East.
We'd be pretty well guaranteed any Game 7 against that team for as long as he's there.
We'd be pretty well guaranteed any Game 7 against that team for as long as he's there.
I don’t think they should sign him either but what about trading his rights if he’s in high demand why not get something for him
Gardiner is a good hockey player who has value around the league, so if we are able to keep him from walking as a UFA, that's a win right there. But I really struggle to see where he fits in the defense core in the coming years.
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Those are good hockey players, but the entire top4 is left shots and I trade Gardiner if I have to trade one of them. I just don't see how he fits in our plans.
Muzzin-Rielly
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Those are good hockey players, but the entire top4 is left shots and I trade Gardiner if I have to trade one of them. I just don't see how he fits in our plans.
It's pretty sad when our defence is so bad that signing would be a good thing.
Please it is time to move on from brain dead Jake .
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LeafalCrusader
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The leafs have been talking about re signing gardiner for the whole year. That’s why I was sure marleau was gone.
I think it’s all up to Jake as to whether he wants to deal with the garbage that comes with playing here
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You got that right. I like Gardiner, and I would have no problem with him on the team if, this is key, if there was a spot for him. But there isn't one. Gardiner was off the team the minute Muzzin put on his Leafs jersey. Too many offensive LDs in the kitchen.
I think he'll be a Blackhawk on July 1st. No chance he comes back to Toronto.
Gardiner should be retained. Sell Brown and/or Kadri if need be. Zaitsev and Marleau leaving opens this door.
If you don't retain Gardiner, then you have to get Erik Karlsson, or Stralman/Myers if you miss on EK. There's not a 20+ minute D-man of any handedness available after those three below 38, and no RHDs at all.
If you don't retain Gardiner, then you have to get Erik Karlsson, or Stralman/Myers if you miss on EK. There's not a 20+ minute D-man of any handedness available after those three below 38, and no RHDs at all.
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I guess $11M doesn't buy you what it use to
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For $5M, I would definitely go for Gardiner. It's a little steep right now but will be a steal for the majority of that contract.
Edit: Forgot about back issue. That may be too big a gamble
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Clearly, it's all bullshit. Let's just ignore that teams work to manipulate Babcock into putting him out in pressure situations so they can take advantage of him. After all, he's got great advanced stats!
If you want a true example that advanced stats alone don't give you the full picture, it's Jake Gardiner.
I will personally hire the best dominoes delivery guy to get the pizza party started in Ottawa, Edmonton, or wherever they want a pizza party.
