Value of: Jacob Trouba at the draft
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I don’t think he will be a “sign and trade” player. I think the team acquiring him will have a year to try and get a deal solved before he hits UFA which is reasonable.
Essentially he is a 1 year rental.
What are Winnipeg’s needs? Any deal from the flyers I would easily begin with the 1st rounder (12-14 range) and then work it from there.
Essentially he is a 1 year rental.
What are Winnipeg’s needs? Any deal from the flyers I would easily begin with the 1st rounder (12-14 range) and then work it from there.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Don't see Trouba doing a sign and trade, He's a one year rental. Looks like he wants to head to free agency in 2020.
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A first in the 12-14 range + a top prospect is likely what it’ll take... depending on leverage it could be more.
One of those prospects WPG would be looking for is Farabee. I don’t think the flyers, at the moment, are a Touba away from being legitimate contenders, but I’d definitely be interested in Trouba.
PHI is a T2 RHD, Great Coach, and a 2C away from being considered contenders. We have the resources available now to make that happen. It just depends how Fletchers does it.
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Big fat no on a 1st+Farabee for Trouba. I'd consider any other prospect except him or Frost.
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Bobby Mac has said in the past that if Trouba is traded it's safe to assume Chevy has given the other teams the right to discuss a contract before any trade is done.
Jets needs are:
- Zero wingers or goalies, don't bother offering
- Young or prospect top 4 D (left or right, but prefer right)
- Young or prospect 2C
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- Possible a package deal including an older top 4 RHD as a bridge solution including some of the other piece(s) above or some combo of the above depending on the quality of the pieces offered. While not a sure thing, he likely traded out east and to American team......but that's not a sure thing just likely. I also think Chevy will keep Seattle expansion in mind when asking for a return, the majority of the value will be future based (no need to protect)......possible with a bridge 1 yr older top 4 RHD thrown in.
Jets needs are:
- Zero wingers or goalies, don't bother offering
- Young or prospect top 4 D (left or right, but prefer right)
- Young or prospect 2C
- Picks
- Possible a package deal including an older top 4 RHD as a bridge solution including some of the other piece(s) above or some combo of the above depending on the quality of the pieces offered. While not a sure thing, he likely traded out east and to American team......but that's not a sure thing just likely. I also think Chevy will keep Seattle expansion in mind when asking for a return, the majority of the value will be future based (no need to protect)......possible with a bridge 1 yr older top 4 RHD thrown in.
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That’s definitely understandable. I would like to hang on to Farabee too. That just my guess as to who they may want.
TheKingPin
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Well if he’s going to wait until UFA anyway the flyers could just try for Panarin and EK and if they miss out wait for trouba the next year. Flyers obviously are not in a 1 year rental territory.
I can see Detroit based on the fact hes from Michigan, what kind of package could Detroit offer, and what will their cap situation look like.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Detroit has tons of cap space probably in the $20M to $23M range with both Zetterberg and Franzen on LTIR Detroit could package Madison Bowey he's a Winnipeg kid not sure what else Winnipeg would want. They don't need Wingers or Goalies so that's out. Detroit potential #2C would be Joe Veleno and he's pretty much untouchable as of now.
Im not sure Bowey is a player Chevy would look at, he would want a top RHD, to future compliment the loss of Trouba.
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Agree Detroit would probably have to move Filip Hronek in any deal for Trouba i would imagine.
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Detroit really doesn't have a deal for Trouba, they are stuck in the waiting for UFA or they could lay a tough offer sheet on Winnipeg in terms of Trouba, but that is really all they can do in my opinion.
Part of moving him at the draft I think would be jumping the line on Detroit, who I am sure is desperate to see him hit UFA status. They would back up a brinks truck for him if he makes it to Free agency in my opinion and I think other teams have to know that. You want to hammer out an extension right now with him and not wait is my guess and I think Winnipeg is going to leverage that if they are able to in terms of value.
Part of moving him at the draft I think would be jumping the line on Detroit, who I am sure is desperate to see him hit UFA status. They would back up a brinks truck for him if he makes it to Free agency in my opinion and I think other teams have to know that. You want to hammer out an extension right now with him and not wait is my guess and I think Winnipeg is going to leverage that if they are able to in terms of value.
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Still sticking to my guns and saying he's going to Tampa for Sergachev.
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No need for Farabee so he wouldn't even be part of any ask, Frost fills a need possible not saying he would be available.
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Don't see how Tampa can afford that. Winnipeg should be all over that if they have the chance though.
It would essentially have to mean that Trouba has like a NTC since he doesn't have to sign a deal if he doesn't want to go to that other team, since he can always go to arbitration again and hit ufa in 2020. Not sure many teams would do a SJ for Karlsson move and bank of him signing with them unless Winnipeg wants that type of return.
It would have to be Trouba negotiating with the other team and Winnipeg ultimately being the one to sign the contract if Trouba wants an 8 year deal, which at age 25, it would take him to 33. He'd also have to be confident that the team acquiring him won't deal him again prior to any NTC/NMC kicking in on July 1, 2020 and thus he loses it like PK Subban did when MTL dealt him to Nash.
Winnipeg is a win now team so it's got to be a hockey deal. Plenty of teams want a 25 year old RHD who can log 22-24 minutes a game.
scratch the 1st..... what about Sanheim with a minor add for Trouba with extension (similar to the Stone trade at the TDL)
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Leafs can afford to add a 7-8 million cap hit next year? You know the Jets wouldn't be taking any dumps back, I don't think the Leafs can afford Trouba.
RealisticLeaf55
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You are right. We'd have to shed a lot of cap first which is very difficult with all things considered.
A guy can dream, though.
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Why does this forum continually act like this is a thing that even happens? Players now want more control over their futures than ever- the very last thing they want to do is sign their future over to a team they don't want to stay with and let them decide.
Yes, sometimes players sign deals with their new teams immediately after... that is not a sign and trade. That's merely allowing other teams to discuss contracts with the players camp during trade negotiations.
