And the RFAs won't walk. What's your point?
That's why I said 1-2 years.
Gleason and Ward are also RFA in, and let me say it again, the next 1-2 years.
Why? He actually regressed this year if you ask me. I think staying in school was a bad decision for him.
why? i highly doubt jj will better than gleason now or even next year. i watched him live yesterday, he is a raw impressive talent. he wont be a great nhl defenseman anytime soon, imo. he is so all over the place he will likely hurt you as much as he helps for a while. as awesome and fun as it was to watch him play yesterday, he probably hurt his team more than helped. his first penalty lead to the pp goal that really turned the game around. his is kind of a sideshow game right now, it isnt a type of game that will translate to the pros till he learns to control it. im sure he'll make some great rushes and hits, but that doesnt mean he is a good defenseman or that he wouldve improved the canes this year or next. i would think after that he will probably have exceeded gleason.
Scoring ungodly amounts of goals as a defenseman does not translate into an NHL game?
Scoring ungodly amounts of goals as a defenseman does not translate into an NHL game?
a lot of canes fans have been repeating their rationalizations over and over again since the summer. i'm not sure common sense will work as an argument against that.
I have watched 5 games from Johnson this season and I have only seen him make one very bad mistake. He doesn't make ungodly turnovers and he doesn't take ungodly pinches. You should really stop pulling **** out of your ass and accept the fact that your teams GM ****ed up. Blame your GM not Jack Johnson. Just accept it and move on. I can't wait until he proves you wrong.
Making ungodly turnovers and taking ungodly pinches and penalties is what I think he was speaking about. Andy Delmore scored ungodly amounts of goals too.
What HAS Johnson done for LA so far? Nothing. What has Gleason done for Carolina so far? Quite a bit.
So yes, as of this second, Carolina won the deal. Johnson has all the time in the world to prove me wrong.
I have watched 5 games from Johnson this season and I have only seen him make one very bad mistake. He doesn't make ungodly turnovers and he doesn't take ungodly pinches. You should really stop pulling **** out of your ass and accept the fact that your teams GM ****ed up. Blame your GM not Jack Johnson. Just accept it and move on. I can't wait until he proves you wrong.
You should read through your quotes during the game watching Jack's last Michigan game.
LeftKinger said:I have watched 5 games from Johnson this season and I have only seen him make one very bad mistake. He doesn't make ungodly turnovers and he doesn't take ungodly pinches. You should really stop pulling **** out of your ass and accept the fact that your teams GM ****ed up. Blame your GM not Jack Johnson. Just accept it and move on. I can't wait until he proves you wrong.
You're only looking at this short term though, which is somewhat illogical.
Going back to the Gretzky analogy, say you're the Oilers. You sign Gretzky, but he hasn't stepped on the ice in the NHL yet. If you're shopping him around, is he still an unproven prospect? Yes, technically, but does he not have value? You're making it seem like Johnson holds no value until he plays for the Kings, which is ridiculous. Prospects are valued for their potential, not necessarily their current play.
Like I said before, EVEN if Johnson busts, the Kings still won the trade when it happened.
Is he actually going to play? Who's to say he doesn't just join the team and practice and gets scratched?
Although he would be in game shape I guess. But just because he's joining the NHL team doesn't mean he's going to play.
I'm not saying he is perfect but you make it sound like he is the next Oleg Tverdovsky.
Lol @ the article comment saying that Rob Blake can mentor the kid. Jeeeeeez, you better hope not.
I don't think he's the next Tverdovsky by any stretch, but at one point they were calling Tverdovsky "The Russian Bobby Orr", or something of that nature. At the time, they thought Tverdovsky was going to be the next great defenseman to hit the NHL and take it by storm.
I'm not saying to not be excited for his potential, because his potential is great. What i'm saying and have been saying for a while is that you have Gleason who is already a rock for this team in Carolina and you have a player where you don't know what you're getting. You're getting an X factor that has the potential to be much better than Gleason at his peak potential. My contention is that people are taking it like it's a slam dunk that Jack Johnson is already a better hockey player than Tim Gleason and that isn't the case. We'll find out where he's at in this remaining games of the season. He should be pretty well rested and conditioned and playing with a great defenseman like Blake will help him pick up the game even quicker, but he still has a long way to go. Defenseman hardly ever make a clean jump from junior/ncaa without a bit of growing pains.