Post-Game Talk: Jack Johnson Era 0 -2.

[KIRK]

Christ, that's like a half dozen times the broken clock has been right today . . .

 

[Icarium]

Remember when we used to score tons of deflection goals? Or when our defencemen scored goals quite regularly? Good times.

 

[The Greatest 101]

Fire Sully and JR!

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Broken clock right again . . .



Except how do you make so profound a philosophical change while saying Sully's seat should only be a bit hot if they start bad next season . . .



If you're CHANGING like Madden suggests they should, then the coach and GM need to be changed too.

How someone can suggest those changes to the roster (he's not wrong) but not say the coach has to also be fired and instead is just on the hot seat to start the season is ridiculous.

 

[vodeni]

@pixiesfanyo and @Andy99 . . . thought you might enjoy . . .



There's the whole ballgame. 5-10 years ago, Sid and Geno could've overcome the disadvantage, at least against a team like the Habs. Not now. Sully set all of them up to fail, and throwing in the towel was inevitable.

thats why its coaching, this team jut had no idea how to get through the NZ, no friggin idea

 

[canadianguy77]

IMHO, you can't just fire Sullivan. It has to be both Sullivan and Rutherford getting axed or you are just starting a new coaching cycle in two-three years. Don't just kick the can down the road with just parting with Sullivan. Rip the band-aid off. You're not going to get too many good coaching candidates looking at a team with its stars in their twilight and a lame duck GM with one foot in the grave. If Rutherford doesn't get nixed this offseason but Sullivan is gone, I think think there is a pretty good chance JR's gone next season. The new coaching staff you brought in suddenly becomes the new lame ducks because the new GM will want his guy coaching. If you're going to do it...do it right and fire both.

Yep. You need all new fresh sets of eyes to properly evaluate the talent within the organization. You can't have a new coach saddled with Jack Johnson. If GMJR stays you will, because JR still doesn't believe that he made a mistake signing him.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Save for Tampa last year, this is the most embarrassing choke job in years

Im mad that habs won (and im habs fan)
But you guys just lost to a team that lost 4 times to Detroit this season.
You guys are not happy that you lost , and most of our board is not happy because we won.
What a weird world we live in.

I have a question for your board , who had the idea to sign Jack Johnson?

 

[canadianguy77]

has anyone seen Rust touched the puck or made one forecheck to take a puck away

He only skated when he had the puck on his stick. He was gliding around the ice the rest of the time.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

@pixiesfanyo and @Andy99 . . . thought you might enjoy . . .



There's the whole ballgame. 5-10 years ago, Sid and Geno could've overcome the disadvantage, at least against a team like the Habs. Not now. Sully set all of them up to fail, and throwing in the towel was inevitable.

Speaking of coaching related WTF things, Craig Simpson was saying during the broadcast how he doesn't understand why Sullivan isn't riding his horses more. At one point (I think it was after the first period) Simpson noted that ZAR played only 37 seconds less than Crosby.

Way to coach an elimination game, Sully, you idiot.

 

[Pittsburgh1776]

All the people saying this team doesn't have guts, is cowardly, are a bunch of p***yes can f*** right off. This team scratched and clawed their way through every game through one of the most horrendous run of injuries in team history, and they did it for months. Even with an inept coaching staff. The core of this team won 3 titles and has given the spoiled fans here more to celebrate than any other organization for the last 15 years. So f*** right off. This isn't about guts.

 

[PensandCaps]

JJ wasn't to blame for today, but we would've won the first 3 game had he been sat.

 

[KIRK]

thats why its coaching, this team jut had no idea how to get through the NZ, no friggin idea

Look, this roster needs work, probably the level of work where you're best off 'promoting' JR and bringing in someone with a fresh set of eyes.

That said, I concur and have noted a few times there's no way any longer to effect the type of change that is needed without a coaching change.

 

[Icarium]

has anyone seen Rust touched the puck or made one forecheck to take a puck away

I literally thought he must have been injured because I never heard his name in 20 minutes or so at one point and he wasn't on the power play.

Speaking of injuries, imagine the Pens of all teams not having any injuries after such a long lay-off... and still losing in an embarrassing fashion to a bad team.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I have a question for your board , who had the idea to sign Jack Johnson?

@pixiesfanyo advocated strongly for it and management caved in to his demands.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't see Cole, Schultz, Bonino, Hagelin or Lovejoy being issues to acquire on the cheap.

The issue as I said. Is that we gave the Lovejoy and Hagelin 3+ million dollar and 5+ year term. JJ and Tanev are a huge part of the problem and you were one of the key people defending those acquisitions. Sullivan resorted to them as if they were essential players this series.

Which limits you from finding out who you have in the Sheary, Rust, etc roles.

Yeah, that's the point I was making there. When I said "cheap", I didn't mean low cost, I mean low cap hit. The Penguins are paying a lot of players a lot of money right now and they're just not getting the ROI that they need to get. Johnson and Schultz are the obvious ones, but Hornqvist and Tanev also fit and guys like Dumoulin, Malkin and Guentzel didn't play up to their pay in this series.

 

[Gurglesons]

@pixiesfanyo advocated strongly for it and management caved in to his demands.

I just trust Sergei Gonchar.

 

[PensandCaps]

What a fall.

13 year playoff streak broken.

no. They finished 5th in their conference. they made the playoffs.

Not letting some dumb gimmick break the streak.

absurd that the Habs even got a chance to play one of these, they had zero shot at Making the playoffs

 

[EvGeno]

Im mad that habs won (and im habs fan)
But you guys just lost to a team that lost 4 times to Detroit this season.
You guys are not happy that you lost , and most of our board is not happy because we won.
What a weird world we live in.

I have a question for your board , who had the idea to sign Jack Johnson?

LOL,someone post the press conference YouTube for this gentleman

 

[PensPlz]

Interim Head Coach Sergei Gonchar?

 

[KIRK]

Speaking of coaching related WTF things, Craig Simpson was saying during the broadcast how he doesn't understand why Sullivan isn't riding his horses more. At one point (I think it was after the first period) Simpson noted that ZAR played only 37 seconds less than Crosby.

Way to coach an elimination game, Sully, you idiot.

TOI:

Crosby -19:36
Malkin - 19:04

BTW, Johnson and Schultz BOTH had 15 minutes ES TOI.

 

[vodeni]

if you are a coach in NHL and you have both healthy eyes and you play shultz 18 minutes in the elimination game, you should not be coach anymore...same with JJ but for that you don't even need to have eyes...

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

LOL,someone post the press conference YouTube for this gentleman

What's the name ill search it

 

[ncm7772]

*Never*? Not ever? Ever ever? Is this your first time watching the Pens crap the bed in the playoffs? Good grief.

Heh? What’s a worse playoff exit in the team’s history? There was the 3-0 series blown vs NYI, but I wasn’t alive then.

 

[PensandCaps]

f***ing losers

Everyone besides Sid and TJ can f*** off.

Sully can eat a bag of shit and get fired.

Thanks for the 2-1 hole Matty. Good luck wherever you go but you're f***ing off his f***ing team. Loser.

Murray had a 914. save percentage, 2 of 3 starts were Quality starts.

Not sure hes to blame. especially when the PP in game one went 1-8 with a 2 minute 5 on 3

 

[Pittsburgh1776]

TOI:

Crosby -19:36
Malkin - 19:04

BTW, Johnson and Schultz BOTH had 15 minutes ES TOI.

I have to have faith that Rutherford sees this and makes the change. Yeah, I'm down for interim head coach Gonchar.