Player Discussion Jack Eichel Part 1

[jc17]

I fully expect Dahlin to make a run at this eventually.

I think thats reasonable.
I think its also reasonable to say some players bring other characteristics to the game that Eichel doesn't, or that he has bad games. I still just think it was really a reach by some to say he wasnt the best.

 

[OkimLom]

Don’t ya know Reinhart with a shot >> Eichel ?

doubt anybody said this.

Or, is this the mindset that thinks someone is saying this, when they said Reinhart played a better game at some point.

 

[Snippit]

doubt anybody said this.

Or, is this the mindset that thinks someone is saying this, when they said Reinhart played a better game at some point.

someone actually said it

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Don't wanna add to this to the main board thread that just started because it'd lead to holy hell, but-

how great was it seeing Eichel thoroughly outplay Matthews? One game, it's not actually proof of anything, but I just got so tired of Leafs' fans' smug assumption that it wasn't even a debate. Matthews was invisible tonight, Eichel was easily the best player on the ice. Maybe there will be times the opposite is true, but just knowing Leafs fans watched that happen.. happy Thanksgiving .

 

[Kyndig]

Don't wanna add to this to the main board thread that just started because it'd lead to holy hell, but-

how great was it seeing Eichel thoroughly outplay Matthews? One game, it's not actually proof of anything, but I just got so tired of Leafs' fans' smug assumption that it wasn't even a debate. Matthews was invisible tonight, Eichel was easily the best player on the ice. Maybe there will be times the opposite is true, but just knowing Leafs fans watched that happen.. happy Thanksgiving .

Eichel has outplayed Matthews in nearly every head to head game. When Babcock was coach he would try to match Matthews away from Eichel.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Said on the mainboard and will say it again. Eichel is an elite player and the best american born center in the game today. He showed it tonight and most games he plays against Matthews. Always thought once the talent of teams was more similar we would see this. Heck of a player.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Eichel has outplayed Matthews in nearly every head to head game. When Babcock was coach he would try to match Matthews away from Eichel.

Thought that was the case- Leafs' fans' sense of superiority is so overwhelming it's friggin gaslighting me, I just remember it being a thing in the offseason and thinking "hasn't Eichel been better head-to-head?"

 

[GrierIsGod123]

The Leafs and their fans can F off

 

[Kyndig]

Eichel 14 games against the Leafs. 12 goals, 7 assists, 19 points

Matthews 12 games vs the Sabres. 9 goals, 5 assists, 14 points

Granted not all the games were head to head due to injuries. Matthews hasn't been a slouch against us but Eichel has been better.

 

[dortt]

I fully expect Dahlin to make a run at this eventually.

you're selling Jack short by saying Dahlin has a chance to be as good as Jack.

 

[Lumpy Grits]

What was the fans’ sentiment during his first year? Impatience? Was he playing with decent line mates?

Just wondering if Jack Hughes’ career trajectory could probably be similar. Hughes flashes elite skill but also looks lost on a few plays, and his line mates aren’t helping.

 

[dortt]

What was the fans’ sentiment during his first year? Impatience? Was he playing with decent line mates?

Just wondering if Jack Hughes’ career trajectory could probably be similar. Hughes flashes elite skill but also looks lost on a few plays, and his line mates aren’t helping.

some frustration Jack's first year. Not so much at Jack, but of his linemates going offsides, which cost us several goals in replay review, or missing wide open nets after great plays by Eichel. He should have had between 65 and 70 points his rookie season

 

[Matt Ress]

some frustration Jack's first year. Not so much at Jack, but of his linemates going offsides, which cost us several goals in replay review, or missing wide open nets after great plays by Eichel. He should have had between 65 and 70 points his rookie season

Yep. After his rookie season, the "get Jack a finisher" campaign began, which included some disdain for Kane. That lasted until Skinner last year. We've always wanted to see that shot more even through gaudy SOG stretches.

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Yep. After his rookie season, the "get Jack a finisher" campaign began, which included some disdain for Kane. That lasted until Skinner last year. We've always wanted to see that shot more even through gaudy SOG stretches.

Kinda the same thing with Hughes. Kinda worried that linemates and overall team environment could stunt his development, but the fact that Eichel’s ceiling now doesn’t seem to be stunted is reassuring.

 

[Tatanka]

Kinda the same thing with Hughes. Kinda worried that linemates and overall team environment could stunt his development, but the fact that Eichel’s ceiling now doesn’t seem to be stunted is reassuring.

Hughes will never be the physical specimen Jack is. Hughes game will have to develop more like PKane. Elusive, quick, vision. Jack is becoming more of a physical nightmare for teams as he matures. Different types of players.

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Hughes will never be the physical specimen Jack is. Hughes game will have to develop more like PKane. Elusive, quick, vision. Jack is becoming more of a physical nightmare for teams as he matures. Different types of players.

True... I grew up watching Mario play, and as far as styles of play go, he immediately comes to mind when I see the way Eichel handles the puck with a long reach and creates space that way.

 

[Tatanka]

True... I grew up watching Mario play, and as far as styles of play go, he immediately comes to mind when I see the way Eichel handles the puck with a long reach and creates space that way.

I lived in Pittsburgh during the first cup runs with Mario and Jagr, Francis, Stephens and Mario was otherworldly. Jack has a similar style but Mario was just so much more talented than everyone. I think the league is much more level among the top tier players with a few exceptions like McDavid and Crosby. Mac, Jack Barkov are probably in a similar group based on skill and physical presence.

 

[Buffaloed]

'It’s his time': Jack Eichel adds to his breakout season... (paywall)

Krueger is relying on the 23-year-old more than his coaching predecessors. Eichel is skating an average of 21:33 per night, third among NHL forwards behind only Edmonton’s Leon Draisaitl (22:51) and Connor McDavid (22:12). The Sabres’ power play is in a monthlong slump, so during the past two games, Krueger has kept the captain on the ice for 7:08 of the 7:30 of man-advantage time.

 

[valet]

Is that a 9 game point streak for Jack now? I wonder how long he can extend it.

 

[Dave92]

First 2 games i've watched Jack this year and he looks like a beast. It's mind boggling that you guys didn't have more success with him and ROR as your centers. Love how physical he can play for a guy with top end skill.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Chainshot]

First 2 games i've watched Jack this year and he looks like a beast. It's mind boggling that you guys didn't have more success with him and ROR as your centers. Love how physical he can play for a guy with top end skill.

He is not the same player he was two or three years ago.

 

[GellMann]

He is not the same player he was two or three years ago.

Plus, in Jack's best season of ROR's 3 years here, they were icing a large chunk of Pouliot, Josefson, Nolan, Griffith, Moulson, Wilson, Tennyson, an un-recovered Larsson, Falk, post-injury Okposo, Antipin etc.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Plus, in Jack's best season of ROR's 3 years here, they were icing a large chunk of Pouliot, Josefson, Nolan, Griffith, Moulson, Wilson, Tennyson, an un-recovered Larsson, Falk, post-injury Okposo, Antipin etc.

Haha ohhhh... wow.. f word were the 4 words that came into my head reading those names of players.

Brought back some PTSD for previous seasons.

 

[OkimLom]

Still think there's another gear in Jack.