Player Discussion Jack Eichel Episode 9 -- The Rise of Impatience

[themilosh]

I would, 100%. I’d piss away 2-3 mil and invest the rest so I coukd live off it and retire at 40-45.

what if youre 47 like me?

 

[themilosh]

Sick of this. Sick of athletes being put on a pedestal. Sick of full-grown babies unhappy with making more in 8 months than most Americans do in a lifetime.

Canadian too

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Canadian too

Absolutely. I only said American because it's an American team, even if Buffalo is Canada-South.

 

[Kublakhan]

Oh dear god yes they locked the Eichel mega thread and did not start a new one.. Nothing like going cold turkey

 

[themilosh]

Absolutely. I only said American because it's an American team, even if Buffalo is Canada-South.

I think at the point, Buffalo is more like Canada's 8th team.

 

[themilosh]

I think at the point, Buffalo is more like Canada's 8th team.

Basically the Bills are our home team, and Buffalo AAA for the Blue Jays. It takes less time for me to drive to Buffalo (from Oakville) than to drive to east end Toronto GTA (Oshawa)

 

[Uberpecker]

Oh dear god yes they locked the Eichel mega thread and did not start a new one.. Nothing like going cold turkey

That thing was a tire fire within a dumpster put on a trainwreck headed off a cliff.

 

[truthbluth]

I think Eichel will be a Flame.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Oh dear god yes they locked the Eichel mega thread and did not start a new one.. Nothing like going cold turkey

They will come here for these ridiculous offers.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

If it's Calgary:

Jack Eichel and Coiln Miller for Connor Zary, Rasmus Andersson, Sean Monahan, Emil Heineman, and a 2022 1st.

Keep Monahan until the 2023 deadline, then flip him.

 

[SackTastic]

I think the money in sports is insane. Don't put words in my mouth about owner profit

There is always a place where money is insane, and some people are fortunate to be in a position to profit from that.

I have a lot more respect for an athlete who has worked really hard their entire life (and given up a lot) to be world class at what they do, and get one big payday if they're lucky , than I do for say Instagram Influencers who also make a ton of money because they are still young and attractive.

Remember that for every individual person making an 'obscene' amount of money, there is a corporation behind them making even more for doing less.

 

[SackTastic]

I would, 100%. I’d piss away 2-3 mil and invest the rest so I coukd live off it and retire at 40-45.

At 40-45, all those little injuries and dings that never bothered you in your 20s and 30s wake up , and remind you every day that they are there.

A friend from high school was a pitcher on our baseball team. He had elbow and knee surgery before junior college. While he was amazing there, graduating was the end of his baseball career. He's 41 now, and struggles to move around enough to play with his kids because of those injuries and surgeries.

Money comes and goes. You only get one body.

 

[markpenske]

I think Eichel will be a Flame.

agree

 

[yahhockey]

So if it's flames does this become Episode 10 - The Heat is On?

 

[Fjordy]

Flames is a good option, the main thing is to return a good young player from the roster in the deal, I would prefer it to be Andersson, as well as one from Zary or Coronato + 1st, I think it would be a good base. I do not know if Monahan is needed in the deal, maybe he could go to the third team and we would get another prospect + choice.

 

[markpenske]

So if it's flames does this become Episode 10 - The Heat is On?

crickets chirping.......

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Just checking in ......... It's 8/24/21. Jack is still Sabre's property right?

OK, Never mind....

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

So if it's flames does this become Episode 10 - The Heat is On?

Or I have Burning sensation he will be a Sabre.

 

[Team Cozens]

Or I have Burning sensation he will be a Sabre.

I wonder if the Wild loop back after they sign Kaprizov to a known cap hit.
If I were to rank teams:

1. Wild
2. Ducks
3. Flames
4. Vegas



32. Bruins
33. Rangers (Yes, there are only 32 teams including the Sabres)

 

[Jim Bob]

I wonder if the Wild loop back after they sign Kaprizov to a known cap hit.
If I were to rank teams:

1. Wild
2. Ducks
3. Flames
4. Vegas



32. Bruins
33. Rangers (Yes, there are only 32 teams including the Sabres)

Only if Adams drops his ask.

Plus, they still have the cap issues after this season with the huge dead money starting in 2022-23. After re-signing Kaprizov and adding Eichel, they could be well over $70M in 22-23 cap hits with only 13 players under contact.

 

[Ygo]

There is a way for this to get materially worse. What if...

• Eichel is not traded by season start
• Risto was really as bad as many have suggested
• The team gets better without Eichel or Reinhart, because Risto is not eating big minutes and killing the team
• This also assumes some steps forward from younger players
• They get okay goaltending
• DG is a significant upgrade over RK (better than replacement level coaching?)

If much of that happens and this team overachieves, while JE is still a Sabre, I have to assume that further diminishes his value.

 

[Hasek]

Anyone put in the same situation that Risto was put in, would fail.

 

[TehDoak]

Only if Adams drops his ask.

Plus, they still have the cap issues after this season with the huge dead money starting in 2022-23. After re-signing Kaprizov and adding Eichel, they could be well over $70M in 22-23 cap hits with only 13 players under contact.

Realistically any deal with MN has to have Fiala coming back as a big piece. There simply is no other way to make the long term salary work.

 

[Mattilaus]

There is a way for this to get materially worse. What if...

• Eichel is not traded by season start
• Risto was really as bad as many have suggested
• The team gets better without Eichel or Reinhart, because Risto is not eating big minutes and killing the team
• This also assumes some steps forward from younger players
• They get okay goaltending
• DG is a significant upgrade over RK (better than replacement level coaching?)

If much of that happens and this team overachieves, while JE is still a Sabre, I have to assume that further diminishes his value.

Yea but what if:

• Eichel is not traded but as a professional he plays as the therapy worked
• He has an excellent season hitting his highest ppg of his career
• He looks significantly better defensively without Risto on the back end
• They get excellent goaltending on a resurgence from Mr. Anderson
• DG is able to get Eichel to buy into the system showing his maturity

If much of that happens and this team overachieves, while JE is still a Sabre. I have to assume his value sky rockets.

What is the point in making up these scenarios?

 

[Sabre the Win]

Risto was a young product on very tanktastic teams. He deserves more respect for how long he stayed in Buffalo and played. Eichel on the other hand gets no respect as he wants to run off.