I think Shula was the best. As Bum Phillips once said :Bill (Belichick) is the best coach of all time and Bill (Walsh) is the most influential (west coast offense/coaching tree/coaching habits). That is the way I see it.
It was a completely differe era they played in. You cant compare passer ratings from the 60s and 70s to today. That's just ridiculous. Griese is a HOF QB though. Don Shula had 3 HOF QBs he coached. I dont want to here about poor Don Shula and the QBs he had to work with.LOL. He had Unitas at the VERY END of his career - after he stopped being a starter.
As for Bob Griese... Have you ever looked at his stats? He has a career passing rating of 77.1.
I agree, he got the most out of Griese who was overrated - even Fran Tankenton said Griese should NOT be in the HOF. Shula also lost his best players to the WFL - Warfield, Csonka and Kiick.It was a completely differe era they played in. You cant compare passer ratings from the 60s and 70s to today. That's just ridiculous. Griese is a HOF QB though. Don Shula had 3 HOF QBs he coached. I dont want to here about poor Don Shula and the QBs he had to work with.
The point is Shula had plenty of talent to work with over his careerI agree, he got the most out of Griese who was overrated - Fran Tankenton said Griese should NOT be in the HOF. Shula also lost his best players to the WFL - Warfield, Csonka and Kick.
As for Unitas, he wasn't even the starter in SuperBowl III - he was an OLD man ling past his prime.
As for Marino, he could NOT win the big one.
Of course he did. But he didn't have Tom Brady - who is the GOAT.The point is Shula had plenty of talent to work with over his career
He never won one with Marino, who is probably the best qb I've ever seen after Brady.Of course he did. But he didn't have Tom Brady - who is the GOAT.
Again, we'll see how great a coach BB is now that Brady is gone.
Yeah exactly, we will see. You seem a little premature to dance on BB grave. My guess is the Patriots will be absolutely fine this seasonOf course he did. But he didn't have Tom Brady - who is the GOAT.
Again, we'll see how great a coach BB is now that Brady is gone.
Who ALWASY choked in big games. In a nothing game, he was amazing. In BIG games, not so much...He never won one with Marino, who is probably the best qb I've ever seen after Brady.
Brady wouldn't have beat those 49ers either.Who ALWASY choked in big games. In a nothing game, he was amazing. In BIG games, not so much...
Let's just see how great the Patriots are going forward.Brady wouldn't have beat those 49ers either.
Im pretty sure someone said that about Bear Bryant before Shula.I think Shula was the best. As Bum Phillips once said :
"He can take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n."
I agree, 100%.
Okay. Doesn't make it any less true.Im pretty sure someone said that about Bear Bryant before Shula.
I agree, he got the most out of Griese who was overrated - even Fran Tankenton said Griese should NOT be in the HOF. Shula also lost his best players to the WFL - Warfield, Csonka and Kiick.
As for Unitas, he wasn't even the starter in SuperBowl III - he was an OLD man.
As for Marino, he could NOT win the big game. Again, it is why he almost didn't get drafted in the first round - IIRC 5 QB's were drafted before him and his choking.
LOL. I have forgotten more about the glory days of the Dolphins under Shula than you will ever know.If you're a troll, you suck at your job.
LOL. I have forgotten more about the glory days of the Dolphins under Shula than you will ever know.
LOL. Whatever.Thats a paradox. How could you forget when you didn't know anything to begin with?
He didnt win a Super Bowl with Unitas or Marino. So not so sure about this statement.Okay. Doesn't make it any less true.
LOL! Good Lord... Unitas was an OLD man when Shula started coaching him.He didnt win a Super Bowl with Unitas or Marino. So not so sure about this statement.
P.S. There was NO such thing as a Superbowl for MOST of Unitas' career. The one he played in - Superbowl III, he was the 2nd string QB and only got in at the end of the game.He didnt win a Super Bowl with Unitas or Marino. So not so sure about this statement.
yesdidnt they win 11 games when brady missed the whole season in 08?
LOL. He had Unitas at the VERY END of his career - after he stopped being a starter.