Quid Pro Clowe
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By the way, Lucic did the exact same thing he cried about Prout doing when he turned his on button off. Only difference is Noesen ducked.
hahh, he'll get tired and need some rest. LoL
It was nice to see Noesen try to do something. It isn't about the result of the battle, it's showing your team and teammates mean something to you and you aren't okay with guys getting run at.
That said, Dalton Prout better be pulled out of the cryogenic lab and thawed out before the Mar 23rd game.
No doubt. If they can get him for 1.5 or less for 2 or 3 years that would be a better investment than Milker. Wasn't he a first round draft pick? He's young enough he could still turn into a good 3rd liner. If he can add PK to is repertoire even better. Nice to have some physicality in the bottom 6 other than Goody.Yea this game won me over to keeping Noesen around at least another season.
Why would the league punish a team for something it had nothing to do with? It’s not our fault the officials f***ed up. Give me a breakmmmh I don’t know... two crews get laid off following missed calls in the playoffs followed by condemning comments from the commish which never happens. That’s embarrassing and cost those crews a ton of money. The refs haven’t been objective since, anybody with eyes can see that. The sharks have been under the league average in TSH every season since 2010 and now all of the sudden are in the top 8 and are 29th in PP opportunities with pretty much the same core? Give me a break.
Why would the league punish a team for something it had nothing to do with? It’s not our fault the officials ****ed up. Give me a break
Another tough loss for the team last night. I think we should consider this a lost season and pick up the pieces for 2020-2021.
Don't think of it as punitive - think of it like this:
A lot of people thought that the Sharks were getting preferential treatment in the playoffs, even heavy-handedly so, because of some questionable and arguably embarrassing calls/non-calls. Doesn't it make sense that the league would try to actively look like they weren't favoring them?
mmmh I don’t know... two crews get laid off following missed calls in the playoffs followed by condemning comments from the commish which never happens. That’s embarrassing and cost those crews a ton of money. The refs haven’t been objective since, anybody with eyes can see that. The sharks have been under the league average in TSH every season since 2010 and now all of the sudden are in the top 8 and are 29th in PP opportunities with pretty much the same core? Give me a break.
At this point, the Sharks are hardly selling out half the seats in their arena, and they probably aren't getting much viewership on TV. The league is not going to completely jeopardize their credibility and the legitimacy of their organization as a whole just to further beat up a team that is already dead in the water, and especially not when barely anybody outside of Alberta is watching the game.
- PP to PK ratio is heavily influenced by the degree of play that a team controls.
- The Sharks have been an above average team by shot/expected goal shares in every season since 2010, they are terrible this year.
- The Sharks are employing some very undisciplined players who often start fights at the end of games they lose, which is becoming more and more frequent.
Occam's Razor. The league is not out to get us.
Lots of people with eyes disagree with you btw.
We are simply a bad hockey team this year. Nothing more, nothing less. This is the most asininely stupid argument of all time. Guarantee you 90% of the league forgot all about the events of last year's playoffs outside of the end results because they don't follow this team like those of us who use personal time to post on message boards about our favorite team with total strangers.It appears a lot more agree with me. The sharks have employed plenty of goons and the occasional dirty player over the years and it’s never been this bad. Hell, look back at 2014-2015. A team that at one point or another iced the likes of John Scott, Tye McGinn, Adam Burish, Mike Brown, and Micheal Haley we’re bottom 5 in the league in TSH. Their CF was better but not their xGF.
Advanced analytics are not always a good substitute for the eye test. The amount of times we’ve seen Deboer and Boughner with that “you gotta be ****ing kidding me” flabbergasted look on their face this year is more than I’ve seen in the past three years combined. Listen I’m not using the refs as an excuse for the Sharks pitiful season because they are dog **** this year but the fact that hits like the ones on Ferraro have been let go with regularity signals to me that the sharks are not in very good standing officials and DOPS. In fact, I actually can’t recall the last time the sharks have had a hit against one of their players reviewed by the league.
Look at the PP to PK ratio in the blues series after the hand pass. The head shots that were completely ignored and not reviewed by DOPS afterward. Are you telling me that’s Corsi influenced that too or do you believe SJ would have gotten the same treatment if the jerseys were flipped? I’m a big time believer when it comes to a person’s subconscious and it’s influence on the decisions we make.
Whether it’s intentional or not I think the officials have been over compensating since Bettman publicly reprimanded them. Also, the league making two rule changes influenced by calls that went the sharks twice in the playoffs surely doesn’t help.
-Negativity Bias. The league may not be out to get the sharks but the events in last years playoffs can definitely have a lingering effect on the officials.
We are simply a bad hockey team this year. Nothing more, nothing less. This is the most asininely stupid argument of all time. Guarantee you 90% of the league forgot all about the events of last year's playoffs outside of the end results because they don't follow this team like those of us who use personal time to post on message boards about our favorite team with total strangers.
Contrary to what the vast majority of idiots on social media try and pump, the world is not some large overarching string of conspiracy theories and makeup calls.
We are simply a bad hockey team this year. Nothing more, nothing less. This is the most asininely stupid argument of all time. Guarantee you 90% of the league forgot all about the events of last year's playoffs outside of the end results because they don't follow this team like those of us who use personal time to post on message boards about our favorite team with total strangers.
Contrary to what the vast majority of idiots on social media try and pump, the world is not some large overarching string of conspiracy theories and makeup calls.
yea but we are talking about hockeyContrary to what the vast majority of idiots on social media try and pump, the world is not some large overarching string of conspiracy theories and makeup calls.
Yes, Calgary went down early, but they got penalties because the Sharks were being lazy with their sticks. It happens when teams are chasing games.
The fact of the matter is that the refs aren't costing the Sharks games - just like they didn't cost Vegas in Game 7 last year. Sharks PK was just not good enough.
I don't think anyone's saying that it's costing the Sharks games. They are still the top PK in the league.
There have been plenty of Sharks fans (not just on this forum) that have decried the officials as a significant reason for the team's performance this season. There is nothing egregious that has warranted these conspiracies. The officials (on and off ice) have always ignored dangerous hits unless there is an injury - just ask Canucks fans. In fact, we could even look at the last few seasons with the Sharks! The decline in PP-PK ratio of the Sharks correlates to their drop in performance.
Officials need to be better - but it's not uniquely affecting the Sharks more than any other NHL team.
Can't it be both/a combination of factors? The Sharks have been playing from behind, their D-zone coverage has been garbage, and they've been taking a bunch of stupid stick foul/holding penalties as a result. They're not going to get the benefit of the doubt on borderline stuff because they're committing the obvious stuff, and that seems reasonable.
Where I do have an issue with it, though, is that they're not getting the calls on more dangerous player safety-type plays. That to me is a problem because if you call nothing else, call the ones that affect the score and the ones that could get somebody hurt. And I think at least some of that is because of the fallout from last year's playoffs.
...or they just suck all around. Is interference still in the rule book?