Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk 2019-20 | Part I

[Strait2thecup]

An overzealous announcer shouldn't predicate the kids trajectory. Moreover, Michaletti isnt the first, nor will he be the last team affiliated announcer to talk up a prospect.

Again, Chytil is 20 years old, the book has barely been cracked open, let alone written.

ITs MSG in general... remember chytilmania last year? You shouldn’t because he had 25 points. But it was still a thing. They let the hype for this kid get out of control and pencilled him in as their 2C. He’ll probably be a 40-50 pint guy and MAYBE top out at 60. Nothing special at all

 

[IslandersFan17]

ITs MSG in general... remember chytilmania last year? You shouldn’t because he had 25 points. But it was still a thing. They let the hype for this kid get out of control and pencilled him in as their 2C. He’ll probably be a 40-50 pint guy and MAYBE top out at 60. Nothing special at all

Again, I'm not understanding how any of this falls on Chytil and the player he can or can not turn into. You seem to be projecting on Chytil the issues you have with their media and fan base.

 

[Strait2thecup]

Again, I'm not understanding how any of this falls on Chytil and the player he can or can not turn into. You seem to be projecting on Chytil the issues you have with their media and fan base.

Well he’s now in a terrible situation... who are some players that played a full nhl season and then got sent back to the ahl that have ended up very good? I just don’t see his potential past 40-50 points. The rangers botched the draft a bit that year

 

[BelovedIsles]

I like Chytil’s game. He’s very young, maybe some AHL time will do him good. He didn’t stand out in the preseason from what I saw, but that doesn’t mean he’s a bust by any stretch. MDC is more of a bust than Chytil.

 

[Riseonfire]

I like Chytil’s game. He’s very young, maybe some AHL time will do him good. He didn’t stand out in the preseason from what I saw, but that doesn’t mean he’s a bust by any stretch. MDC is more of a bust than Chytil.

Is he though? Hes further along in his career arc for sure but DalColle has a 3rd line grinder floor. That's still better than a skilled Chytil or Filatov not in the league (as of now).

 

[IslandersFan17]

Is he though? Hes further along in his career arc for sure but DalColle has a 3rd line grinder floor. That's still better than a skilled Chytil or Filatov not in the league (as of now).

Okay, Chytil just turned 20 and has played more than double the games in the NHL than MDC has. Also, Dal Colle was a top five pick who was supposed to be a top six scoring winger. Carving out a role in the NHL prevents him from being a total bust, but he is a far cry from what he should have been (still young yet, but still).

Moreover, who knows if Chytil rips it up in the AHL, considering he had 31 points in 46 games as a teenager in the AHL ('17-'18), it's entirely possible he gets pulled back up to the NHL gairly quickly.

Again, not to keep harping on Rangers specs, but it seems like some fans are so desperate for their prospects to be bad, they distort the narrative.

I mean this is the perfect example. Dal Colle takes five years removed from his draft to become a grinder and that's fine. Chytil finding his game at 20 is a bust...‍

 

[buud]

As much as Rags fans are clamouring for their youth to all be brought up now (and some think they will be competing for the cup this year ), I'm pretty sure that mgmt knows that's a bad idea. I believe that Chytil/Kravtsov needed to earn a spot, and they didn't. They aren't busts, but it doesn't seem like they are destined to be superstars, either.

 

[mm11]

As much as Rags fans are clamouring for their youth to all be brought up now (and some think they will be competing for the cup this year ), I'm pretty sure that mgmt knows that's a bad idea. I believe that Chytil/Kravtsov needed to earn a spot, and they didn't. They aren't busts, but it doesn't seem like they are destined to be superstars, either.

The Hype on Kravtsov was really high last year. Even I was taking notice and I have been around long enough to see prospects come and go since before the Hector Marini days

 

[PWJunior]

The Hype on Kravtsov was really high last year. Even I was taking notice and I have been around long enough to see prospects come and go since before the Hector Marini days

The hype for Kravtsov was ridiculous last year. Rag fans were having contractions at his every almost nice assist or almost nice goal. We get it, tone it down a notch or 5. If he's the 2nd coming, then what does that make Kakko? Kakko is a beast, no doubt. But Kravtsov preceded by Chytl, preceded by Anderssen are not future superstars.

All fanbases overrate their prospects, but to be an uber level prospect... you have to check off ALL the boxes. Production commensurate to match the potential no matter what the situation. The special ones do that. The cliche of the cream rises to the top is very relevant regarding prospects.

 

[mm11]

The hype for Kravtsov was ridiculous last year. Rag fans were having contractions at his every almost nice assist or almost nice goal. We get it, tone it down a notch or 5. If he's the 2nd coming, then what does that make Kakko? Kakko is a beast, no doubt. But Kravtsov preceded by Chytl, preceded by Anderssen are not future superstars.

All fanbases overrate their prospects, but to be an uber level prospect... you have to check off ALL the boxes. Production commensurate to match the potential no matter what the situation. The special ones do that. The cliche of the cream rises to the top is very relevant regarding prospects.

Hence the reason I noticed not many NYI fans on here over hype our players. Been there done that and it's alot of untasty crow. I'll tell ya one thing, not one Islander player is thinking about Kravtsov anytime in the immediate future.

 

[PWJunior]

Hence the reason I noticed not many NYI fans on here over hype our players. Been there done that and it's alot of untasty crow. I'll tell ya one thing, not one Islander player is thinking about Kravtsov anytime in the immediate future.

Isles fans are sky high on Noah Dobson right now and for good reason. He's done everything expected of a top draft pick and his star has continued to ascend. The whole situation is conducive to making sure he reaches his expected star potential too. Future HOF coach and current top dawg amongst his peers, you couldn't find a better match of coach and young defenseman talent like Trotz. Pulock emerged big last season and can do the heavy lifting, Mayfield and Boychuk are solid. No easy path for the kid and hence no real pressure either. Getting used to the pace in a sheltered role in a good defensive unit with the best coaching staff in the league... that's checking off all the boxes.

I won't roll my eyes at the Kakko hype, he's legit. Everything else though, it's just noise. I fear KK going forward, not Kravtsov or Chytl or any other prospect they have. That's all I'll say, not really interested in talking about the Rags.

I do agree that we do seem like one of the more reasonable fan bases in the hype machine, but we also one of the smaller ones on here too. We may be fewer in number, the other fan bases feel us and feel us hard though.

 

[BelovedIsles]

Is he though? Hes further along in his career arc for sure but DalColle has a 3rd line grinder floor. That's still better than a skilled Chytil or Filatov not in the league (as of now).

Chytil can still adapt his play style to resemble a checker/forechecker if he doesn’t turn into a top 6’er. Much like MDC. MDC is also more of a bust candidate given his draft position.

 

[Riseonfire]

Chytil can still adapt his play style to resemble a checker/forechecker if he doesn’t turn into a top 6’er. Much like MDC. MDC is also more of a bust candidate given his draft position.

Idk. MDC is bigger and was always good at cycle and board play. He'll never be the sniper we drafted him to be, but I can see him carving out a Blake Comaeu kinda career.

 

[xECK29x]

This isn’t the Rangers prospect thread, move on

 

[BelovedIsles]

Idk. MDC is bigger and was always good at cycle and board play. He'll never be the sniper we drafted him to be, but I can see him carving out a Blake Comaeu kinda career.

I see Taylor Pyatt in MDC. Pyatt was tabbed to be a speedy, N-S goalscorer. MDC doesn’t have Pyatt’s speed, but he’s adjusted his game to be a checker, much like Pyatt was forced to do to survive in the NHL. Both high draft picks (Pyatt was 10th, pick acquired for Trevor Linden, I think).

 

[Frankie41987]

I’m really hoping Holmstrom has a strong year. At least in my mind, there will always be a “what could have been” comparison to Tomasino. Tomasino starting the year off very strong 3 goals and 6 points tonight.

 

[SI90]

Wally’s first goal of the season. Nice zone entry and strong stride to get around the defender to set up the backhand.

 

[Finster8]

Coskey scored 2 goals in a 4-3 loss to Oshawa. GP-8 G-6 A-4 P-10 Cole continues to be a big part of a slow starting offense. Two more beautiful one timers from the hash marks.

 

[leeroggy]

Coskey scored 2 goals in a 4-3 loss to Oshawa. GP-8 G-6 A-4 P-10 Cole continues to be a big part of a slow starting offense. Two more beautiful one timers from the hash marks.

Coskey turns 21 on June 1st, he better be dominating with that age difference

 

[danteipp]

I’m really hoping Holmstrom has a strong year. At least in my mind, there will always be a “what could have been” comparison to Tomasino. Tomasino starting the year off very strong 3 goals and 6 points tonight.

I really wanted Tomasino when he fell to the Isles spot, I thought he was the perfect marriage of talent AND team need. For me, it is the same level as when I wanted Ehlers over MDC and Hamilton over Strome in those two drafts. That said, I am intrigued by Holmstrom and hope for the best with him. If nothing else, I hope he at least stays healthy and gains valuable experience and can build some size and strength. That alone will benefit him going forward.

 

[MJF]

I really wanted Tomasino when he fell to the Isles spot, I thought he was the perfect marriage of talent AND team need. For me, it is the same level as when I wanted Ehlers over MDC and Hamilton over Strome in those two drafts. That said, I am intrigued by Holmstrom and hope for the best with him. If nothing else, I hope he at least stays healthy and gains valuable experience and can build some size and strength. That alone will benefit him going forward.

I thought Tomasino was the safe pick but Holmstrom was the pick with a higher ceiling.

Always defer to the scouts. I trust the amount of work they put into putting a draft together.

 

[scott99]

I’m really hoping Holmstrom has a strong year. At least in my mind, there will always be a “what could have been” comparison to Tomasino. Tomasino starting the year off very strong 3 goals and 6 points tonight.

Blood pressure going through the roof every time I think about this.

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt

NHL - New York Islanders

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	0	0	0	0	0	0
Michael Dal Colle	LW	2014 round 1 #5	GRAD	2	0	0	0	0	0
Devon Toews	D	2014 round 4 #108	GRAD	2	1	1	2	0	3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

AHL - Bridgeport Sound Tigers

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Simon Holmstrom	RW	2019 round 1 #23	8	2	0	0	0	0	-2
Kieffer Bellows	LW/C	2016 round 1 #19	5	2	0	1	1	0	-3
Josh Ho-Sang	RW	2014 round 1 #28	GRAD	0	0	0	0	0	0
Otto Koivula	C/LW/RW	2016 round 4 #120	6	2	0	1	1	2	-2
+ Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	4	0	0	0	0	0	0
+ Mitchell Vande Sompel	D	2015 round 3 #82	13	0	0	0	0	0	0
Parker Wotherspoon	D	2015 round 4 #112	HM	2	0	0	0	4	-2
+ Bobo Carpenter	LW/C	UFA Signing	NR	0	0	0	0	0	0
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	7	2	0	1	1	0	-4
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW	2018 round 1 #11	3	2	1	1	2	2	-3
Grant Hutton	D	UFA Signing	HM	2	0	0	0	0	0
Mason Jobst	C	UFA Signing	NR	2	0	0	0	2	-1
David Quenneville	D	2016 rnd 7 #200	NR	0	0	0	0	0	0
Arnaud Durandeau	LW	2017 round 6 #165	HM	0	0	0	0	0	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

ECHL - Worcester Railers

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

CHL - Canadian Major Juniors

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	10	Blainville-Boisbriand	7	0	3	3	6	-3
Blade Jenkins	C	2018 round 5 #134	14	Saginaw Spirit	8	2	2	4	4	0
Cole Coskey	RW	2019 round 7 #209	NR	Saginaw Spirit	8	6	4	10	0	-4
Felix Bibeau	C	2019 round 6 #178	NR	Quebec Remparts	7	1	11	12	4	7
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	NR	Portland Winterhawks	5	0	4	4	4	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

NCAA

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Ruslan Iskhakov	RW	2018 round 2 #43	9	Univ. of Connecticut	1	0	1	1	2	1
Nick Pastujov	LW	2016 round 7 #193	NR	Univ. of Michigan	0	0	0	0	0	0
Collin Adams	LW	2016 round 6 #170	NR	Univ. of North Dakota	0	0	0	0	0	0
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201	NR	Boston Univ.	1	0	0	0	0	1
Benjamin Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77	NR	Providence College	1	0	0	0	0	3
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196	NR	Michigan State Univ.	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103	NR	Univ. of Notre Dame	0	0	0	0	0	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Europe

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	20	SaiPa (Liiga)	9	0	2	2	4	-2

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Goalies

PLAYER	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	GAA	SV%	SO
Ilya Sorokin	2014 round 3 #78	2	CSKA Moskva (KHL)	7	1.38	.942	2
Linus Söderström	2014 round 4 #95	11	Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL)	0	0	0	0
Jakub Skarek	2018 round 3 #72	12	Worcester Railers (ECHL)	0	0	0	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Finster8]

Coskey turns 21 on June 1st, he better be dominating with that age difference

If he stayed healthy and Perfetti with 1goal, Porco 2, Jenkins 2 simple conclusion they will be all putting numbers up by the end of the season. Coskey will be over 50 goals when all is said.

 

[SergeConstantin74]