Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk 2019-20 | Part I

[scott99]

Ishakov is 0G 1A and only 3 shots after 3 games.

Way too early to for any rash judgements but....he is a second round pick.

Hopefully he ramps up the production quickly.

Wasn't a fan of this pick. There was a better Russian available if they were going in that direction, Kirill Marchenko. Also Liked Akil Thomas, a center who was picked after Ishakov. Thomas had a huge post draft season last year.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Is it me, or does Wahlstrom look like if you Photoshop Brett Lindros' head with Jeff O'Neill's face?

 

[SI90]

Is it me, or does Wahlstrom look like if you Photoshop Brett Lindros' head with Jeff O'Neill's face?

He also looks like him and his USA teammate Alex Turcotte could be brothers.

 

[Finster8]

I really don't mind trading Wilde for a similar prospect on offense. Maybe for a Logan Brown with some evening out?

After they decide if he goes back to Saginaw or Bridgeport? After the lack of TOI due to injury puts him in a situation where he develops and keeps his confidence in Saginaw with a 2nd year in the OHL and a long go in the playoffs. He will be the top D in the league, arguably. This will raise his value and he will only be D+2 this year. Being 1st PP, Top 2 D pairing and leader of the D. All trying to improve his defensive game so he is right on track for next year in Bridgeport. He might lose confidence and development making that large jump to the AHL if he is not 100% it will be exposed with the better talent in the AHL.

 

[leeroggy]

You're assuming he improves and accomplishes all that. That's not a given.

Forget getting fancy and decide whether a Logan Brown is the better option in our organization given the great RHD pool and the poor C pool we have.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

He also looks like him and his USA teammate Alex Turcotte could be brothers.

That's a pretty big picture.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I really don't mind trading Wilde for a similar prospect on offense. Maybe for a Logan Brown with some evening out?

Yep, I wouldn't move Wilde.

I can't speak of his mental make-up - but his physical attributes and skill level are really quite, well, off the charts.

Gotta find out what this kid has, because if he's the righty shot version of Giordano, you want him here right from the get-go. And topflight righty shot Dmen are basically THE most valuable commodity on the entire player market.

 

[leeroggy]

Yep, I wouldn't move Wilde.

I can't speak of his mental make-up - but his physical attributes and skill level are really quite, well, off the charts.

Gotta find out what this kid has, because if he's the righty shot version of Giordano, you want him here right from the get-go. And topflight righty shot Dmen are basically THE most valuable commodity on the entire player market.

IF we have a spot for him. That's the problem here. Dobson, Pulock, Mayfield, Hutton . . . add Wilde and SOMEONE has to go if they all can play well. Forget what COULD be for a minute and ask yourself if a Logan Brown or similar is a better fit if you look at the organization as a PORTFOLIO of prospects with ALL positions having pipeline impact.

That's the problem with looking at players INDIVIDUALLY. Haven't we had enough of assuming our prospects will develop from the past 10 years? Brown is already producing nicely in the AHL, Wilde hasn't got that on his resume yet.

 

[Finster8]

IF we have a spot for him. That's the problem here. Dobson, Pulock, Mayfield, Hutton . . . add Wilde and SOMEONE has to go if they all can play well. Forget what COULD be for a minute and ask yourself if a Logan Brown or similar is a better fit if you look at the organization as a PORTFOLIO of prospects with ALL positions having pipeline impact.

That's the problem with looking at players INDIVIDUALLY. Haven't we had enough of assuming our prospects will develop from the past 10 years? Brown is already producing nicely in the AHL, Wilde hasn't got that on his resume yet.

I personally role with Wilde and see where he is on the depth chart in 2years the difference in age. I watched Brown in Windsor and Kitchener and he played 4 years in the 0HL. Wilde at D had 70 pts in his 1st year and Brown a forward In his best year had 74 pts. Just don't think he is going to be the best option.

 

[leeroggy]

I personally role with Wilde and see where he is on the depth chart in 2years the difference in age. I watched Brown in Windsor and Kitchener and he played 4 years in the 0HL. Wilde at D had 70 pts in his 1st year and Brown a forward In his best year had 74 pts. Just don't think he is going to be the best option.

I said LIKE for a reason, there's got to be some prospect center or scoring winger to be had. Owen Tippett? Drake Batherson? Sam Steel? Ryan Poehling?

By the time Wilde shows anything (and right now he would be behind Hutton in Bridgeport, and certainly Dobson in the NHL) he might NOT get to show enough in the AHL.

We can't play FOUR RHD at the same time in the NHL and right now Wilde would have to beat out Mayfield, even assuming Boychuck is sitting on the sidelines. SOMEONE has to go. It might as well be to try to fill the prospect pool at center or scoring winger.

 

[buud]

I remember hearing that Dobs said that he was equally proficient on both sides. If true, he would be the ideal 7th D, while acclimatizing.

I don't see an issue with the current status of RHD's, no need to panic. Chuk is going to slowly fade out over the next few years, giving us a cushion for the kids. And we can get a decent return for Mayfield, I believe.

I say we keep them all for this year, unless a sweet deal pops up. Trade Mayfield in the off season, go with Pulock, Chuk, and Dobs, with Hutton as the 7th. In a year or two after, Chuck is more of a mentor, and Wilde (obviously if he evolves properly), steps up.

Bring along Dobs slowly for now, and if he transitions well, he may turn into a Black Ace for us.

Right now, we're tied with COL for 9th, in PP%. If we continue on this way, I really am comfortable with staying put, for this year.

I also think that Beau, Barzy, Pulock, Toews... all have the potential take a step forward, with probably only Chuk expected to slow down a bit.

I am ok with seeing how we fare for a few more weeks, before we consider the panic button...

 

[Tuckisles]

I don't think we should trade Wilde and especially not because of Hutton. I like Hutton but remember he's 4 years older than Wilde and was signed on an amateur tryout contract as opposed to Wilde who was a 2nd round draft pick that many had going in round 1. He is also a Dman that averaged a point per game last season. Hutton may turn into a good pro but the upside on Wilde is much higher.

 

[SI90]

 

[SI90]

 

[Finster8]

Saginaw beats SSM 4-3 in OT. Coskey scored his 8th of the season and Jenkins had 2 assists, quick update!!

 

[pursuit81]

We've got a lot of #5-6 Dmen, some of whom are judged to be better than that on this board.

No one is going to give up much for that especially at this time of the year.

The names they'll be asking for are the ones most of us on the board think are untouchable or nearly so. That would be Puloch, Toews, Dobson, Wilde and Pelech (to a lesser extent)..

I applaud you for trying to reason with them but it won't work. The poster you replied to and the people who 'liked' his post just can't understand why Lou can't pull off a trade of Kyle Connor for Nick Leddy straight up. After all, WPG needs D and we need O, so what's the prob?

 

[SI90]

Wilde recovered and ready to begin in the AHL

 

[BMOK33]

Wilde recovered and ready to begin in the AHL

You have to wonder if this is a plan to showcase him for a trade for offense. If he shows he can get it done at the AHL level the value really goes up

 

[crasherino]

You have to wonder if this is a plan to showcase him for a trade for offense. If he shows he can get it done at the AHL level the value really goes up

I don't think that's the case. He's a prospect one year removed from being drafted. He's being assigned there to develop. His development itself is a de facto showcase for being traded....as well as being a contributor for the Islanders in 1-4 years.

Trades are pretty infrequent in this league. Much more frequent on message boards (which makes sense). While there may not be room for Wilde to ascend to the NHL at this point, things have a funny way of working out and we really don't know what will be in 2-3 years - when Wilde is probably ready to make the leap. In the meantime, let the kid work on his defensive - and overall - game in Bridgeport. If a trade pops up where he can be a valuable piece - great. And if we develop another offensive minded defenseman to graduate to the NHL in 2021 or so, that's great too.

 

[Rengi]

Wilde recovered and ready to begin in the AHL

1st encouraging sign from Bode Wilde with his high ankle sprain. I hope he remains in Bridgeport so that we develop our youngsters there together!

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt

NHL - New York Islanders

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	2	0	1	1	0	0
Michael Dal Colle	RW/LW	2014 round 1 #5	GRAD	6	0	1	1	4	-3
Devon Toews	D	2014 round 4 #108	GRAD	6	2	2	4	0	2
* Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	3	1	0	0	0	0	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

AHL - Bridgeport Sound Tigers

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Kieffer Bellows	LW/C	2016 round 1 #19	5	4	1	1	2	0	-2
Simon Holmstrom	RW	2019 round 1 #23	8	4	0	1	1	0	-3
Josh Ho-Sang	RW	2014 round 1 #28	GRAD	0	0	0	0	0	0
+ Otto Koivula	C/LW/RW	2016 round 4 #120	6	2	0	1	1	2	-2
+ Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	4	0	0	0	0	0	0
+ Mitchell Vande Sompel	D	2015 round 3 #82	13	0	0	0	0	0	0
Parker Wotherspoon	D	2015 round 4 #112	HM	4	0	2	2	6	-3
+ Robert Carpenter	LW/C	UFA Signing	NR	0	0	0	0	0	0
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	7	4	1	1	2	0	-3
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	3	4	1	2	3	11	-2
Grant Hutton	D	UFA Signing	HM	4	0	0	0	0	0
Mason Jobst	LW/C	UFA Signing	NR	3	0	0	0	4	-2
David Quenneville	D	2016 rnd 7 #200	NR	0	0	0	0	0	0
Arnaud Durandeau	LW/C	2017 round 6 #165	HM	1	1	0	1	0	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

ECHL - Worcester Railers

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

CHL - Canadian Major Juniors

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	10	Blainville-Boisbriand	9	0	4	4	6	-1
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134	14	Saginaw Spirit	11	3	5	8	4	1
Cole Coskey	RW	2019 round 7 #209	NR	Saginaw Spirit	11	8	6	14	2	-3
Felix Bibeau	C	2019 round 6 #178	NR	Quebec Remparts	10	5	13	18	10	10
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	NR	Portland Winterhawks	9	1	9	10	12	4

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

NCAA

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	9	Univ. of Connecticut	3	0	1	1	2	0
Nick Pastujov	LW	2016 round 7 #193	NR	Univ. of Michigan	2	0	1	1	2	0
Collin Adams	LW	2016 round 6 #170	NR	Univ. of North Dakota	2	1	0	1	2	4
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201	NR	Boston Univ.	1	0	0	0	0	1
Benjamin Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77	NR	Providence College	2	0	0	0	0	1
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196	NR	Michigan State Univ.	2	0	0	0	2	-1
Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103	NR	Univ. of Notre Dame	2	1	0	1	2	-1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Europe

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	20	SaiPa (Liiga)	12	2	4	6	6	-3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Goalies

PLAYER	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	GAA	SV%	SO
Ilya Sorokin	2014 round 3 #78	2	CSKA Moskva (KHL)	10	1.37	.942	2
Linus Söderström	2014 round 4 #95	11	Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL)	0	0	0	0
Jakub Skarek	2018 round 3 #72	12	Worcester Railers (ECHL)	1	1.00	.960	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[doublechili]

He also looks like him and his USA teammate Alex Turcotte could be brothers.

Let's stay focused on the big picture.

 

[doublechili]

You have to wonder if this is a plan to showcase him for a trade for offense. If he shows he can get it done at the AHL level the value really goes up

Wilde seems to me to be one of those guys who isn't easily traded. He's got huge upside but there are also concerns about his game. He's hard to value and risky to trade/acquire.

 

[Rengi]

You have to wonder if this is a plan to showcase him for a trade for offense. If he shows he can get it done at the AHL level the value really goes up

 

[Rengi]

An interesting read this article by Michael Fornabaio with some insights on Bode Wilde!

Here some quotes from Bode Wilde and coach Thompson:

Bode Wilde, a 19-year-old defenseman, took part in practice Thursday at Webster Bank Arena, partly on his own, wearing a red no-contact sweater. He has been skating for a couple of weeks, but he missed the preseason with a sprained ankle.

“Not going to camp is a big disadvantage,” said Wilde, the Islanders’ second-round draft pick in 2018. “Not getting my legs under me before the season gets into full swing, that’s going to be part of the challenge, getting my legs back and getting that mental aspect dialed into midseason form.”

“Obviously a huge upside, big body (6-4, 201), moves well, good brain,” Bridgeport coach Brent Thompson said. “(His) hockey sense is solid. I’m looking forward to have the opportunity to work with him and get him to the level he needs to be to help the Islanders win a (Stanley) Cup.
“He’s been off the ice quite awhile. It’s going to be a work in progress, but you like all the tools he brings to the table. He’s going to be a huge asset for our hockey team here.”

Wilde, since he was drafted out of the NTDP, could either come here or return to Saginaw of the Ontario Hockey League.
That remains an option, but Wilde is excited to get his pro career going.
“I had a big season in the OHL last year, and my coaches really helped me prepare for this jump,” he said. “I feel pretty comfortable that I can step in here and make a difference.”

And on the ice, his coaches helped develop his defensive game to complement elite offensive abilities, to become a reliable defender.
“I achieved that in that league. Now I come here and hopefully let my offensive instincts do their thing when I have the opportunity,” Wilde said, “but first and foremost I want to be able to defend and impact the game on the back side.


Full article:
Wilde joins Sound Tigers; start date to come