Rumor: Isles interested in Patches, cost is roster forward, prospect, pick

[vokiel]

No, I get that, believe me.
But in this case...why would the Canadiens trade him for someone like Brock Nelson, and taking Ladd's contract ? That makes absolutely no-sense...they would be better off letting Pax play this season, and let him walk next summer in that case. That's what I mean by "this is getting ridiculous".

I agree on that. I'd rather just get a bunch of picks and maybe some A-B level prospect.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

21 yr old Barzal,coming off a 85 pt season, would be Tavares replacement.

I mean to replace the center position. Barzal more than replaces JT production.

 

[CREW99AW]

I mean to replace the center position. Barzal more than replaces JT production.

Barzal is a natural center and if Tavares leaves, Barzal becomes the #1C.

 

[Price is Wright]

Early in the week,Staple said " isles are in the middle of everything ". Meaning the isles are talking to a lot of teams.


Then during the draft we had different media sources naming Grubrauer, Anderson, MaxPac and Skinner as players the isles were kicking the tires on. I am sure there are others who they kicked the tires on, that fans have not read about.

I guess we will see how it plays out.

Skinner on the Islanders would excite me more than Pacioretty.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Barzal is a natural center and if Tavares leaves, Barzal becomes the #1C.

I know. I'm not arguing that. All I mean is that if he leaves there is an open center position on the roster (anywhere from the 1C-2C-3C)

 

[sheed36]

One thing I fear with Paccioretty was last year an anomaly or a sign of things to come, which is why I would be scared resigning him before seeing him play out at least part of this season

Last season was the first season Pacioretty didn't have a Markov or Subban or any good puck moving defenseman really to get him the puck on breakouts where most of his goals previously came from. The Habs breakout and transition game from their defense last season was quite simply awful and no doubt affected Pacioretty's goal scoring. In my opinion anyway.

 

[supermann_98]

The two first Isles rounders would have be cool. I wonder why it wasn't done.

Two first rounders for 1 year of Patio-ready?

 

[boredmale]

Last season was the first season Pacioretty didn't have a Markov or Subban or any good puck moving defenseman really to get him the puck on breakouts where most of his goals previously came from. The Habs breakout and transition game from their defense last season was quite simply awful and no doubt affected Pacioretty's goal scoring. In my opinion anyway.

Didn't Pacioretty always have a weird history of injuries, that always scares me as player get older

 

[supermann_98]

I could see Dobson + small cap dump not named Ladd + 2019 1st for Pacioretty be done

PLUS a 2019 1st? Lmao

 

[Frank Drebin]

Never has the NHL had a forward compile more meaningless goals. Perennial winner of "Most Overrated." Let him and his attitude rot in Montreal.

Of his 226 career goals, how many of them would you consider "meaningless"? Don't bother answering.

He actually is one of the most underrated players on HF currently. He's no captain, and in no way should he be your teams best forward, but he is 100% a first line winger still in this league.

 

[seabass45]

No interest. He doesn’t fill a need for us so i don’t get it.

 

[ohmyjlord]

Didn't Pacioretty always have a weird history of injuries, that always scares me as player get older

Not really. He missed 18 games last season, but only missed 15 throughout the 6 seasons prior to that. I wouldn't say it's a "weird history of injuries".

 

[Frank Drebin]

No, I get that, believe me.
But in this case...why would the Canadiens trade him for someone like Brock Nelson, and taking Ladd's contract ? That makes absolutely no-sense...they would be better off letting Pax play this season, and let him walk next summer in that case. That's what I mean by "this is getting ridiculous".

This is the main board. Ridiculous is the normal. Pay no mind.

 

[ohmyjlord]

This is the main board. Ridiculous is the normal. Pay no mind.

Yeah, I know...
And, as a group, I understand why us Habs fans have a bad rep around here. But I also wish there was a way to have more nuanced discussions around here. Seems like everything is whiter than white or blacker than black, and nobody even bothers looking for grey...which kinda turns every discussion into a pointless attitude-fest. I guess I'll just have to get used to it again.

 

[voyageur]

I think this is a trade that maybe happens if Tavares walks. I still think he will go to the Leafs.


Barzal steps up to 1C, with Bailey and Lee.

Pacioretty fits in with Nelson and Eberle on a #2 line.

But what do the Isles have to trade? If De Haan goes defense is weaker and there is no goalie to build a franchise around.

Montreal needs a lot, except goalies.

 

[CREW99AW]

Of his 226 career goals, how many of them would you consider "meaningless"? Don't bother answering.

He actually is one of the most underrated players on HF currently. He's no captain, and in no way should he be your teams best forward, but he is 100% a first line winger still in this league.

It is not bashing MaxPac to say I do not want my team to give up top assets, then be forced to give him $6m- $7m per,on a 5-6 yr extension.

I am looking to extend Eberle, who has terrific chemistry with Barzal.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

I could see Dobson + small cap dump not named Ladd + 2019 1st for Pacioretty be done

You see this on what hallucinogenic substance?

Isles are not trading Dobson and 1st for an over the hill Patches, this is Lou Lamoriello your dealing with now. You could be sure if they move any bluechip prospects it's going to be for a top-pairing d or #1 goalie or it's going to come with a heavy bag like Ladd.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Smart to try and replace JT early.

How is Patches a replacement for JT? You realize JT outproduced him by what, 45 points this season? Pacioretty is a complimentary winger, not a top line center.

 

[CREW99AW]

You see this on what hallucinogenic substance?

Isles are not trading Dobson and 1st for an over the hill Patches, this is Lou Lamoriello your dealing with now. You could be sure if they move any bluechip prospects it's going to be for a top-pairing d or #1 goalie or it's going to come with a heavy bag like Ladd.

Is Ladd at 5 yrs/$18m( after July 1st), even a heavy bag for Malkin?
He has opened the checkbook since the season ended.

 

[Baksfamous112]

You see this on what hallucinogenic substance?

Isles are not trading Dobson and 1st for an over the hill Patches, this is Lou Lamoriello your dealing with now. You could be sure if they move any bluechip prospects it's going to be for a top-pairing d or #1 goalie or it's going to come with a heavy bag like Ladd.

Case closed he just got traded to San Jose

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Case closed he just got traded to San Jose

Let's see the verdict, we'll see if San Jose gave up the equivalent of Dobson + 1st Rounder

 

[CREW99AW]

Isles and Max could work something out.

I don't want them to work something out,with a 30 yr old, whose best yrs are likely behind him.

Let someone else pay him $6m- $7m.

 

[fahad203]

Why don't they just pursue JVR?

 

[CREW99AW]

Another one who will be badly overpaid after July 1st.

Ladd,Erickson, Okposo, Neilsen, Lucic, Alzner...have I missed any ufas who cashed in on July 1st and have not come close to earning their salaries?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Patches just signed with Allan Walsh--that means he is going for the money and nothing else