Rumor: Islanders working on a Boychuk trade

[boredmale]

But what teams need cap? Last I checked, Ottawa doesn’t need any help reaching the cap floor. Boychuck is still ridiculously overpaid at 5.25M.

That is 5.25M over 2 years(or 2.625M a year). I would argue from a salary standpoint that is fair. My point is they might be able to find a team willing to dump a guy who makes 3M a year/3M caphit for 2 years

 

[Diamonddog01]

canucks should be in on this if the sweetener is good enough and isles take back one of roussel/beagle/sutter

That doesn’t really help us.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Not this year, but it helps them in 2 years.

Yes but this year is when they need the space. Any type of gain in cap space isn’t helping them.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

Using some inside info here, so take it for what it's worth, but I'd be somewhat surprised if the trade partner here wasn't the Devils.

It is possible they have history....but it has to be at pretty good offer from Isles to have devils do it.....What do you think they would offer?

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Because I said so. Also, because Ken Holland’s cousin is Boychucks wife.

They just signed Barrie, and they already have Bear, Larsson, and Bouchard on the right side and they have no cap space.

If you thought about it for 10 seconds youd realize the Oilers don't make sense

 

[dbaz]

That doesn’t really help us.

How doesnt it?
Canucks had two ways to go. Payout prospects and picks this year to dump contracts and create a small cup window by re-signing their ufas and others. or going with younger core and waiting out the bad contracts.
They are now going to wait out the bad contracts, so a 2 year window.
If it was boychuk and a 1st for sutter, id definitely consider it. Addional first, +2mil cap for a 3rd pairing rd we dont have anyways. contract is the 2 years nucks wait anyways.
islanders can then buyout sutter in second window and have 4mil~ cap savings

 

[axlrose87]

They just signed Barrie, and they already have Bear, Larsson, and Bouchard on the right side and they have no cap space.

If you thought about it for 10 seconds youd realize the Oilers don't make sense

Agreed.
No team really makes any sense.
For some of these teams that need to dump players, I just don’t see any options at all other then keeping them.
The price to dump a guy like this would be astronomical just like fleury. This isn’t a ‘attach a 1st round pick’ kind of deal. I think trading a guy like boychuk, fleury, Neal, etc.. (players who are completely done) will leave the team feeling horribly uncomfortable with what they have to give up.

 

[ToDavid]

I don’t know why but I have this sneaking suspicion someone is going to help the Islanders out. And we’re all going to hate it.

 

[Leafmealone11]

Not a fan of either team, I just see a good fit for Melnyk to add significantly more cap hit than salary for two years as well as gain additional assets

The sens are easily hitting the floor and have no reason to take on more cap or salary they just traded for 2 Dmen and are happy paying as little as possible for a last place finish

 

[boredmale]

I don’t know why but I have this sneaking suspicion someone is going to help the Islanders out. And we’re all going to hate it.

My 2 cents is Arizona wants to dump salary, so Islanders should try trade for Kessel while dumping a couple of there low salary/high cap hit contracts plus something of actual value

 

[blinkman360]

Yeah if the cost is a 1st I'd pass. I'd only strap a 1st to Ladd at this point(more if needed). Boychuk is still a solid 3rd pairing guy, and proved in the playoffs that he's still a warrior. 2 years with low salary. No reason to cough up a 1st. Eff that noise.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

They'll have to add a significant pick/prospect to get back a 6th or 7th rounder in 2023 for this to work. Even if you are a team like Ottawa or Detroit, why would you help out the Islanders for free?

 

[boredmale]

They'll have to add a significant pick/prospect to get back a 6th or 7th rounder in 2023 for this to work. Even if you are a team like Ottawa or Detroit, why would you help out the Islanders for free?

If you view Boychuk as a 2.625M player you are getting something of value

 

[Thrasymachus]

I don’t know why but I have this sneaking suspicion someone is going to help the Islanders out. And we’re all going to hate it.

I don't know about all of us

 

[IslesNorway]

According to capfriendly Boychuck’s NMC allows him to list 8 teams he would accept a trade to. Someone want to tell me why Ottawa would be one of those 8 teams?

Well I guess it beats Bridgeport...

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

If you view Boychuk as a 2.625M player you are getting something of value

Where are you getting that number from? Are the Isles retaining? I see two years left at 6 per.

If the Isles retain, he can still play in the league, but don't the Isles need full cap space? If you are going to get rid of him and have to add to get rid of him, you might as well get rid of his whole cap hit.

 

[Chardo]

They'll have to add a significant pick/prospect to get back a 6th or 7th rounder in 2023 for this to work. Even if you are a team like Ottawa or Detroit, why would you help out the Islanders for free?

Because they'd be picking up an asset as sweetener, and then flipping Boychuk next year for another asset. All for the cost of his modest salary this year.

 

[boredmale]

Where are you getting that number from? Are the Isles retaining? I see two years left at 6 per.

If the Isles retain, he can still play in the league, but don't the Isles need full cap space? If you are going to get rid of him and have to add to get rid of him, you might as well get rid of his whole cap hit.

Caphit is 6M, actual salary

Islanders already paid his bonus(2.75M) this year so he only gets 1.25M in salary. Next season he gets paid 4M. So he gets paid 5.25M over the next 2 seasons(or an average of 2.625m)

Johnny Boychuk - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[Henkka]

RD Johnny Boychuk + INCENTIVE <> LD Patrik Nemeth 50% retained (1.5M)

Handness swap with Detroit.

Nemeth was good at last season in a crap team.

 

[ScaredStreit]

Yeah if the cost is a 1st I'd pass. I'd only strap a 1st to Ladd at this point(more if needed). Boychuk is still a solid 3rd pairing guy, and proved in the playoffs that he's still a warrior. 2 years with low salary. No reason to cough up a 1st. Eff that noise.

Would you rather move Boychuk and a 1st...or lose Pulock?

 

[Hunter368]

Tough trade to try and make happen in a flat cap.......especially with over 90% of the cap spent already around the NHL.

 

[TheLegendOfPatPeake]

Since every player is going to the Leafs...I vote the Leafs take on Boychuk's contract.

 

[AcerComputer]

Since every player is going to the Leafs...I vote the Leafs take on Boychuk's contract.

We'll send Tavares the other way for Barzal to even out the money

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Caphit is 6M, actual salary

Islanders already paid his bonus(2.75M) this year so he only gets 1.25M in salary. Next season he gets paid 4M. So he gets paid 5.25M over the next 2 seasons(or an average of 2.625m)

Johnny Boychuk - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Didn't know that. I still think the Isles are adding a mid-round pick or B caliber prospect.

Boychuk is not a 2.625M player right now. Why would a team want to add that player without getting anything back in a flat cap?

But I can see how this contract is more movable. It shouldn't be that difficult for the Islanders. I suspect it'll get done.

 

[Forge]

Using some inside info here, so take it for what it's worth, but I'd be somewhat surprised if the trade partner here wasn't the Devils.

I'd be very surprised if it were. We have maybe 5-6 million in cap to play with. If we spend that on Boychuk given the rest of this market, I'd be floored.