Is YouTube Done? (MOD Warning - See post #193)

[Shareefruck]

Every generation ever has thought the next generation is worse and going to destroy the world.

Society has constantly progressed in every way forever and will continue to do so

While that's true to some extent and I agree that disdain towards future generations is usually just a knee-jerk reaction to unwanted change and blowing exceptional cases out of proportion, I do think that automatically accepting that as an ongoing rule based on the fact that that has been the case in the past can be dangerous/wrong-headed. There are many different directions that culture can go in as technology progresses, some good, and some bad (and we can see it happening). We've continually been on the right end of it for a while now, but there's no guarantee it will continue that way... just because. Progress isn't a guarantee, and genuine regression in some areas is not impossible.

People say that all the time about music as well, just because it was a trend for a long while after the 40s, but that rule of thumb seems to hold up less and less over time.

 

[syz]

Difference being that every generation hasn't grown up with access to every sort of YouTube asshole imaginable. Sounds like a parenting nightmare, tbh.

Logan Paul's subscriber count has increased and it's probably a bunch of kids junior high and under who are only picking up that it's cool to be the stereotypical American asshole. The suicide bit is bad but it's just a part of a laundry list of shit that he did on his trip. Sadly nobody I know in Japan is surprised, either; you don't have to look very hard to see an annoying American tourist. Would like to see him go be that rowdy and ignorant in a less civil country. Seems like when a foreigner breaks the law in Japan they're more inclined to just chalk it up to stupidity and silently hate you as opposed to throwing you in jail like some other places unless you do something major.

 

[Eisen]

How does it not matter? People are up in arms because someone videotaped a dead person.

Is the concept of piety familiar to you?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Yeah it's actually ridiculous lol the guy's subscribers have gone up almost 150 thousand in the last 3 days since this happened. Like I said earlier, his core audience of children absolutely loved this video before people on the outside noticed how f***ed up it was. He is going to take a few days off and go back to shooting out his mindless drivel for the children to eat up and the cash will keep flowing in. It is really sad but at this point I don't see literally anything touching the Paul brothers for a while yet...though they are the kind of people that will burn out in like a month and just never being relevant again.

 

[Blitzkrug]

YouTube in general was a mistake. While it has pretty talented people (musicians, comedians, animators) using it to actually make good content, it gives talentless hacks like all these vloggers, video game players who aren't even remotely good at the game they play and Logan/Jake Paul type losers a way to make totally undeserved money/notoriety

I wonder how Logan would like it if his body was the one being filmed? ***holes

 

[izlez]

I really have no idea who Logan Paul is, but anyone trying to turn this into a Society/Generational/Technology/Youtube issue just sounds like their yelling at kids to get off their lawn.

Be mad at this one guy and this one instance.

Don't be mad at the internet, which allows access to the entire history of human knowledge inside your pocket.
Don't be mad at a generation of kids who have access to that information for the first time in human history.
Don't be mad at all of Youtube which gives a platform for plenty of positive content (again, I'm not a youtube guy. But I just recently found the popular Mark Rober who wouldn't have a platform if not for Youtube)

 

[Pilky01]

I really have no idea who Logan Paul is, but anyone trying to turn this into a Society/Generational/Technology/Youtube issue just sounds like their yelling at kids to get off their lawn.

Be mad at this one guy and this one instance.

Don't be mad at the internet, which allows access to the entire history of human knowledge inside your pocket.
Don't be mad at a generation of kids who have access to that information for the first time in human history.
Don't be mad at all of Youtube which gives a platform for plenty of positive content (again, I'm not a youtube guy. But I just recently found the popular Mark Rober who wouldn't have a platform if not for Youtube)

I feel like youre getting needlessly defensive about people simply discussing how we as a society interact with the internet.

 

[BonMorrison]

-waits for people to tell me there’s nothing wrong with this-

What an oaf.

 

[Pilky01]

Indeed it is a crass reminder and a sad depiction of American culture.

 

[Ceremony]

YouTube in general was a mistake.

The amount of hours of live Pearl Jam footage I've seen on it begs to differ

 

[Led Zappa]

YouTube in general was a mistake.

Was the internet a mistake as well?

 

[Voight]

The content has certainly gone down.

About a decade to go I logged on nearly everyday to watch RayWilliamJohnson, Nigahiga, GoRemy, Epic Meal Time, AVGN etc. Now I go on for music videos, movie trailers, and easter eggs.

Much like everything else in entertainment (animation, comics, movies, TV etc) there was a Golden Age. And YouTubes was roughly 2007-2012.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

Wtf is wrong with this person.

 

[DoyleG]

Still use YouTube as I can find old shows still on the system that I cant's get anywhere else (as long as they aren't deleted)

I live stream news networks as well given that I also have Chromecast (Al Jazeera has a live feed and archives its programs)


As for these two geniuses, they should hopefully go back to Japan an get a nice "welcome back".

Then upload it for the finale.

 

[Plante]

I really have no idea who Logan Paul is, but anyone trying to turn this into a Society/Generational/Technology/Youtube issue just sounds like their yelling at kids to get off their lawn.

Be mad at this one guy and this one instance.

Don't be mad at the internet, which allows access to the entire history of human knowledge inside your pocket.
Don't be mad at a generation of kids who have access to that information for the first time in human history.
Don't be mad at all of Youtube which gives a platform for plenty of positive content (again, I'm not a youtube guy. But I just recently found the popular Mark Rober who wouldn't have a platform if not for Youtube)

Now imagine if all those kids actually used the internet to garner knowledge instead of watching people like Logan and watching porn?

 

[beowulf]

-waits for people to tell me there’s nothing wrong with this-

What an oaf.

I just don't get it. No respect, no brains, nothing...

 

[HanSolo]

-waits for people to tell me there’s nothing wrong with this-

What an oaf.

Jesus christ. I know it's unfair to blame the generation but I've got an itch to say something like that in the back of my brain to say it.

Either way, it's really sad that this tool gets any attention.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Personally, I'll never see the appeal of vloggers. I guess sometimes they could do something cool that's worthwhile watching, but most of the time it's pretty pointless things (like going to the mall, driving in a car, hanging with friends, etc).

With that being said, my stance on Logan Paul still remains - what he did was wrong, but the internet is overreacting. What he did was wrong. What he did was disrespectful. But, to be honest, what he did wasn't a huge deal. The most harm it causes is offending people because he laughed at the victim (which is wrong and disrespectful). If that's enough for some people to hate him and want his career to be over, that's their problem.

I'm not a fan his (don't hate him and don't love him). I thought that should be said before people assume I'm just a huge fan of his.

 

[Shareefruck]

It's a consequence vs. principle thing. In my view, it's only fair that someone gets labelled a scum bag pr*ck when they showcase themselves as (not literally, but actually) un-apologetically behaving that way, regardless of how little actual damage they do. I don't see that as an overreaction. I'm more inclined to hate someone like that than someone who caused real, irreversible damage but shows genuine sincerity and remorse for their actions, personally.

 

[Siamese Dream]

A new trend in the UK is these assholes who film themselves breaking into leisure centers and upload it onto youtube



Wonder how much damage they did to the Zamboni driving it onto the ice like that without the ramps. They should be done for trespassing and criminal damage.

 

[John Price]

Absolutely. Never thought I'd see the day where it became hip to break into private property for Edgy recording purposes. Break into an arena and drive the zamboni and stuff its not right

Some videos are cool where people go into abandoned malls. It's like something out of a zombie video game. But this is just wrong

 

[Papa Francouz]

-waits for people to tell me there’s nothing wrong with this-

What an oaf.

What the actual f***.

 

[Pilky01]

Absolutely. Never thought I'd see the day where it became hip to break into private property for Edgy recording purposes.

I hate to even appear to defend Logan Paul/YouTube but 'Pool hopping' has been considered an innocent prank for generations now and its basically just kids being 'hip' by "breaking into private property".

 

[John Price]

I hate to even appear to defend Logan Paul/YouTube but 'Pool hopping' has been considered an innocent prank for generations now and its basically just kids being 'hip' by "breaking into private property".

For recording purposes is the main difference than back in the day. Back in the day dumb drunk people would break into stadiums and ride the cart around. It wasn't for attention. It was just dumb people drunk.

 

[Pilky01]

For recording purposes is the main difference than back in the day. Back in the day dumb drunk people would break into stadiums and ride the cart around. It wasn't for attention. It was just dumb people drunk.

But that is a result of the technology (or lack thereof) at the time; not the behavior/attitudes of young people. The technology changed, not the kids.