Is Rasmus Dahlin overrated?
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Best D prospect since Potvin, already a superstar, better than Hedman already, etc. I mean yes he is, not sure why people are picking on Leafs fans saying he's overrated when there's posts like the ones I just wrote. The evidence is right on this site for the picking. Not sure why Sabres fans are using Matthews hype as a rebuttal, in some cases he was also overrated before his draft..
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What do McDavid/Eichel/Matthews have to do with "Is Dahlin overrated"? In some cases all 3 were overrated at some point.
i don't know why players like Mcdavid, Matthews etc are even mentioned here. It's about Dahlin and Overrated is subjective, in regard to whos comment?
i personnaly don't think he's overrated from the level he's playing against men as we speak, the way he skates, his edgework is just phenomenal, the poise and composure he has when he's under pressure at the blueline is out of this world. Is his game going to 100% translate in the Show, it's impossible to know just like it was impossible to know if Crosby and Mcdavid would indeed dominate like they are or just be great player! one thing is sure, he's name should be mentionned beside this 2 guys PRE-DRAFT, cause the potential is there, Now he needs to prove he's worth post-draft to stick around these name.
i personnaly don't think he's overrated from the level he's playing against men as we speak, the way he skates, his edgework is just phenomenal, the poise and composure he has when he's under pressure at the blueline is out of this world. Is his game going to 100% translate in the Show, it's impossible to know just like it was impossible to know if Crosby and Mcdavid would indeed dominate like they are or just be great player! one thing is sure, he's name should be mentionned beside this 2 guys PRE-DRAFT, cause the potential is there, Now he needs to prove he's worth post-draft to stick around these name.
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I gotta say I am starting to feel like I am sleeping on Dahlin a lil bit. I personally didn't see "best D man since Potvin" level skill out of the kid but hey.
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Potvin was great because he was willing to die to win. One of the highest compete levels ever. Call me skeptical until I see it.
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So you already knew they were all overrated at some point so why ask the question in a thread that isn't about them.
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Obviously he is. People have been talking about him for months and he still has zero points in the NHL. Surefire bust status.
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Leafs fans this time two years ago were ready to crown Matthews as the supreme leader of the NHL but yeah, go ahead and call the soon to be first overall pick by your rival team overrated. good one
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Oilers fans have never talked down about first overall picks on rival teams being overrated, especially not the supreme leader of the NHL.
I'll admit that I fall into this group. I think at this point he is overrated. I saw him play at the WJC, and a couple of SHL games. He is a great talent, don't get me wrong. I just feel that even though he will have an outstanding rookie year, he will disappoint relative to the sky high expectations of him. Buffalo is an awful team, with brutal D and goalies, he is going to be expected to step right in and be the #1 Franchise D immediately. That is a tough situation for a 19 YO. I have no doubt that he will be a star in the NHL, but it will take some time, just like it did for Hedman, Keith, Doughty, Karlson ect...
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Meet Swedish defenceman Rasmus Dahlin, the 17-year-old scouts say will be better than Erik Karlsson
“Compared to guys like Erik Karlsson and Victor Hedman, this guy is better,” said Anders Forsberg, a former Ottawa Senators scout who drafted Karlsson and coached Hedman and Ekman-Larsson as junior-aged players. “I had a lot to do with Hedman and know him like a friend also, but this is better. I coached Oliver Ekman-Larsson. He was not even close to this. This is something special.”
I'd say underrated on HF, fairly rated by media.
“Compared to guys like Erik Karlsson and Victor Hedman, this guy is better,” said Anders Forsberg, a former Ottawa Senators scout who drafted Karlsson and coached Hedman and Ekman-Larsson as junior-aged players. “I had a lot to do with Hedman and know him like a friend also, but this is better. I coached Oliver Ekman-Larsson. He was not even close to this. This is something special.”
I'd say underrated on HF, fairly rated by media.
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The evidence is from the scouts, players and coaches who have ever seen Dahlin play.
Hockey fans say Dahlin is generational.
Leaf fans say he's overrated.
I love the reading the Leaf fans post. The panic is pure gold!
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please show me a clip of any of these two players doing what dahlin does at their age, i'll wait
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How is a 2X Art Ross trophy at the age of 21 years old overrated?
Dahlin/Matthews/Eichel shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as McDavid
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I think some overrate him and some underrate him. Hes a young guy and a defenceman so hes more uncertain. He might become as good as his biggest fans believe or he might be just another very good defenceman and one of the best in his time.
He's overrated in the sense that he isn't generational, and anyone expecting him to be is overrating him. He is unlikely to win multiple Harts, and be consistently better than the top 3 or 4 forwards in the league.
People are throwing around generational defenceman, but even the best defenceman in the league is consistently more valuable than the top 3 or 4 forwards in the league. So, people are over the top in thinking how good he is, because its rare for a defender, so they ignore the comparable prospects that were on his tier (Matthews, Eichel, Tavares, and Stamkos since Crosby). This is also before getting into positional risk. While scarcity and value are linked, they aren't the exact same thing. What should be a guaranteed franchise defender and Norris candidate at the top of the draft, is more rare than a Center who is likely to get a couple Hart nominations (Tavares and Stamkos have both already been nominated, we will see with Matthews and Eichel, but we will also see if Dahlin is a perennial Norris winner), but that that rarity doesn't make them a better prospect or NHL player.
People are throwing around generational defenceman, but even the best defenceman in the league is consistently more valuable than the top 3 or 4 forwards in the league. So, people are over the top in thinking how good he is, because its rare for a defender, so they ignore the comparable prospects that were on his tier (Matthews, Eichel, Tavares, and Stamkos since Crosby). This is also before getting into positional risk. While scarcity and value are linked, they aren't the exact same thing. What should be a guaranteed franchise defender and Norris candidate at the top of the draft, is more rare than a Center who is likely to get a couple Hart nominations (Tavares and Stamkos have both already been nominated, we will see with Matthews and Eichel, but we will also see if Dahlin is a perennial Norris winner), but that that rarity doesn't make them a better prospect or NHL player.
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I think the Hedman comparisons are heavily influenced by Hedman now, not solely as a prospect.
