Is Peter Chiarelli the worst trading GM in the league?

PWJunior

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Not really what happened, NYI used the pick and flipped it to AB

The Isles traded up into the 28th spot with the 2nd and their own 3rd. That's where they selected Beauvillier. Ironically, the 28th pick was originally the Rangers pick. Josh Ho-Sang was selected with the 28th pick the year before which originally belonged to the Rangers as well.
 

Brian McDavid

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Lol of course he couldn't get a #3 defenseman to "fix" the defense without trading one of the top wingers in the league. Who cares about losing Eberle when they no longer have a single winger who knows what a good wrist shot looks like except when they put Drasaitl with McDavid to justify that abomination of a contract they gave him.

Sekera and Russell combining for 10 million a year is a horrible investment

Your team without McDavid is not even Canucks tier thanks to Chiapet

Lol, pump the brakes kid.
 

GTislanders

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Sees all the eberle sucks posts. Looks at stats. Would be the oilers second leading scorer. He also drives possession and has had a tremendous impact on barzal.

[mod] if thats not convincing enough just look at the standings. I know who the better team is AINEC.
 
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Volica

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Sees all the eberle sucks posts. Looks at stats. Would be the oilers second leading scorer. He also drives possession and has had a tremendous impact on barzal.

[mod] if thats not convincing enough just look at the standings. I know who the better team is AINEC.

Being honest, Ebs was horrible for them during the playoffs and played his way off the team.

Let’s not forget that this guy was considered an untouchable 3/4 years ago, and Oil fans were quick to remind everyone that he was one of the best wings in the game.
 
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General Disarray

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Easily bottom 3, if not the worst.
However, I don't think it's fair to say "Barzal for Reinhart". What the teams to with the draft picks shouldn't really affect the outcome of the trade. It's the draft picks for Reinhart. Still a terrible deal, but still..
 

NeverForget06

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Sees all the eberle sucks posts. Looks at stats. Would be the oilers second leading scorer. He also drives possession and has had a tremendous impact on barzal.

[mod] if thats not convincing enough just look at the standings. I know who the better team is AINEC.
14 game sample size vs what, 6 seasons?

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K Fleur

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Cap space to sign McDavid and Draisaitl is kinda nice. It's not like those moves were made in a vacuum..

The Eberle trade was for cap space and a body.

I mean we can talk about Chia’s trash free agency signings that made that need for cap space if you want.
 

Belieber

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I think they could be in a much better position right now. There were a lot of problems when he arrived but that trade with the Islanders was the killer, what a horrible trade.
 

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The trades he has made have been absolutely ridiculous. I won't even get into them.

The one thing that just doesn't make any reasonable sense is how he handled the McDavid and Draisaitl negotiations.

He starts with McDavid, signs him on July 5, then signs Draisaitl on August 16.
Knowing full well that the money Connor gets will heavily impact the ask from Leon's agent.

Common sense and intelligence says you negotiate the lesser of the two players.

Leon might be a great player but damn he's not worth 8.5.

Sad for Oilers fans the gong show continues.
 

CREW99AW

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Sees all the eberle sucks posts. Looks at stats. Would be the oilers second leading scorer. He also drives possession and has had a tremendous impact on barzal.

[mod] if thats not convincing enough just look at the standings. I know who the better team is AINEC.
I do not credit Eberle with Barzal's development. Even before Eberle was dropped to the 2nd line, Barzal showed terrific promise and was putting up pts
 
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OilCanada92

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I mean we can talk about Chia’s trash free agency signings that made that need for cap space if you want.
Let me guess, the Oilers don't need a guy like Lucic? The Oilers should have continued to dress strictly skilled players, right? Because big 20 goal scorers grow on trees.
 

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Let me guess, the Oilers don't need a guy like Lucic? The Oilers should have continued to dress strictly skilled players, right? Because big 20 goal scorers grow on trees.

Seven years, cap hit at 6M,complete NMC for the first 5, modified the last 2. There's a reason contending teams DO NOT sign guys like Lucic to deals like that.

Oh maybe they could have got a younger power forward had they not traded all the picks away....just a thought. You don't rush a rebuild just because you have McDavid.
 

K Fleur

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Let me guess, the Oilers don't need a guy like Lucic? The Oilers should have continued to dress strictly skilled players, right? Because big 20 goal scorers grow on trees.

Look at the two best teams of the last decade and ask yourself if they were worried about having big players or skilled players.
 

Cup or Bust

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Sees all the eberle sucks posts. Looks at stats. Would be the oilers second leading scorer. He also drives possession and has had a tremendous impact on barzal.

[mod] if thats not convincing enough just look at the standings. I know who the better team is AINEC.

No thanks to Eberle, would not want him back for free. The Oilers certainly need a RW, but not Eberle. Islanders can keep him.
 
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THall4

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Easily bottom 3, if not the worst.
However, I don't think it's fair to say "Barzal for Reinhart". What the teams to with the draft picks shouldn't really affect the outcome of the trade. It's the draft picks for Reinhart. Still a terrible deal, but still..
Id still rank Dale Tallon and John Chayka higher on the **** list than Chiarelli...Chevy is pretty bad too..there's only 2 things really saving his bacon 1) Scheifele's contract and 2) Hellebuyck becoming more of a competent starter than he showed last year (as a rookie albeit).

But in reality, there is no explanation for some of the moves hes made thus far.

1) Reinhart trade...don't care if it was his idea or not..he pulled the trigger.
2) Hall trade ..I will admist that I didn't like the deal as a 1 for 1 ..have no issues with Larsson..love the guy but value-wise it shoulda been Larsson+
3)Eberle trade ..I get the cap savings..great...but he essentially traded a multi time 50-60pt player for a player that reached 50pts once in his career. IMO we shoulda tried to sign a real top 6 player (Vanek or Vrbata were my choices) to short term deals..both are RWers and both signed 1yr deals with their respective teams.
4)Not finding an adequate short term replacement for Sekera. Auvitu is aweful..I get they bet on Nurse and benning taking steps forward but for a team that was pegged as a contender..they shouldn't be relying on a 2nd yr Dman and a 22 year old in Nurse to fill the void for a competent #3 NHL Dman. Nurse seems to be busting down the door right now as a solid top 4D so theres a plus, I guess.
 

lawrence

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the 16th and 33rd pick for Griffin Reinhart was god awful.

Larrson for Hall was a bad trade in his favour, but you can't really fault him on that ,since no one was really interested in Hall. Larson is doing ok for the Oilers as a shut down defensemen. Hall is doing ok for the Devils as an offensive winger. A deal was in place to send Taylor Hall for Kevin Shattinkirk, but he wound't waive to Edmonton.

Ok the Eberle trade was bad, yes I know it had to be done, it doesn't mean anything is ok.
 

JPeeper

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Didn't go through all the pages, but if we're talking about contract negotiation, signing Draisaitl to $8.5/8years is not good at all.

Gaudreau, Pasta, Tarasenko, Monahan, Barkov, Scheiffle, MacKinnon all make much less and are either better or equal with Drai. Drai puts up 10 more points (playing McDavid) than Monahan/Mac/Barkov and gets $2.1-2.5 mil more a year? Not great.
 
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