Is Mitchell Marner a top 10 NHLer this year?

[TimeZone]

funny how matthews is supposed to be our franchise player yet Tavares and Marner are proving to be way ahead of him

What are you even talking about? Matthews boasts a better PPG than both of them, and has 19 goals in 24 games this Season. Get a grip.

 

[hfman]

What are you even talking about? Matthews boasts a better PPG than both of them, and has 19 goals in 24 games this Season. Get a grip.

Matthews is streaky and isn't consistent. Tavares and Marner are steady, reliable and consistent. I would take these 2 over Matthews right now to be honest...

 

[Superstar]

Matthews is streaky and isn't consistent. Tavares and Marner are steady, reliable and consistent. I would take these 2 over Matthews right now to be honest...

Tavares and Marner are steady because they have each other since day one of the season...if Nylander didn't hold out and started the season on time playing with Matthews (and he didn't get injured), I think Matthews would be more consistent. If you know your line mates well and have great chemistry, there's less thinking and more instinctive playing. I'm excited that the Leafs team hasn't peaked yet.

 

[TMLS]

He would be for sure as long as that plug Hyman is not on his line.

 

[Pi]

Tavares and Marner are steady because they have each other since day one of the season...if Nylander didn't hold out and started the season on time playing with Matthews (and he didn't get injured), I think Matthews would be more consistent. If you know your line mates well and have great chemistry, there's less thinking and more instinctive playing. I'm excited that the Leafs team hasn't peaked yet.

Yeah, this Leaf team aren't at their best right now but they are still playing very good hockey.

 

[thewave]

He is getting 10m

 

[Pi]

He is getting 10m

No, he won't.

Scoring is up league wide. Just two years ago only 7 players hit 82+ points. This year 40+ players are on pace to hit it. Marner has been amazing this season but he's not getting paid 10M. He will come above Draisaitl but below Kucherov.

~9M would be a good number on a long term deal.

 

[thewave]

No, he won't.

Scoring is up league wide. Just two years ago only 7 players hit 82+ points. This year 40+ players are on pace to hit it. Marner has been amazing this season but he's not getting paid 10M. He will come above Draisaitl but below Kucherov.

~9M would be a good number on a long term deal.

I may be the first to have brought that argument here, but, Nylander made me think they aren't factoring that.

Marner is twice the player.

 

[GBLeaf]

Mitch will be top 3 in scoring I think this year when all is done.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Mitch will be top 3 in scoring I think this year when all is done.

I actually thibk he will win the scoring title, his first, this year! I'm the only one saying it so likely i am being a little overboard.

Top 3 in scoring is kost likely more realistic . I just think this consistency will continue and win innthe end over Ranty

 

[Bronxxx]

I actually thibk he will win the scoring title, his first, this year! I'm the only one saying it so likely i am being a little overboard.

Top 3 in scoring is kost likely more realistic . I just think this consistency will continue and win innthe end over Ranty

Magic WILL win the scoring title!

 

[DarkKnight]

Nobody plays the wing like this guy in the league...throw out the usual caveats that wingers are less important than centers, in the case the narrative doesn't apply.

 

[ACC1224]

Nobody plays the wing like this guy in the league...throw out the usual caveats that wingers are less important than centers, in the case the narrative doesn't apply here.

Mitch has always been a center. He just lines up as a winger now.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Stamkos was going to get 11. Took 8 and change. If you match ratios 9.5 Tampa dollars is like 12 Toronna bucks. Sucks eh

Don't you know why any thoughtful person who think Tampa 9.5m equals Toronto 12m.

 

[DarkKnight]

No, he won't.

Scoring is up league wide. Just two years ago only 7 players hit 82+ points. This year 40+ players are on pace to hit it. Marner has been amazing this season but he's not getting paid 10M. He will come above Draisaitl but below Kucherov.

~9M would be a good number on a long term deal.

He's still FIFTH in the entire league, so relatively your point is moot.

 

[thewave]

Don't you know why any thoughtful person who think Tampa 9.5m equals Toronto 12m.

Taxes. It's why they take less in those states.

 

[luvdahattymatty]

Gramps here. I have always looked at Mitch from his Clarington to Vaughan to Don Mills to London to Toronto days as a rover. Does not really have a position but roams ice where he is needed. Defensively he never has played a traditional centre role. Offensively he puts himself in position to make plays wherever that is on the ice. There has been no one I can remember who plays the game quite like Mitch. I say rover because he is not a traditional winger or a centre but he does line up for face-offs as a winger.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Taxes. It's why they take less in those states.

Only a fool believes that players under tax laws in Canada and probably the US pay personal tax rates. You never hear of Blue Jays or Raptors demanding premium pay for playing in Canada but somehow the tax experts on this site think it's an issue.

 

[thewave]

Only a fool believes that players under tax laws in Canada and probably the US pay personal tax rates. You never hear of Blue Jays or Raptors demanding premium pay for playing in Canada but somehow the tax experts on this site think it's an issue.

I just go by what I am hearing. It comes from the media as well and so I guess there are a lot of fools.

 

[Liminality]

It's funny to remember all of the hate us Leaf fans got comparing Marner to Gaudreau.
I'd say they're definitely comparable players now eh?

JG 38gp 51p
MM 38gp 53p

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

I just go by what I am hearing. It comes from the media as well and so I guess there are a lot of fools.

Yes, they just see personal tax rates and think it's of any meaning. Players are incorporated, and especially high end earners certainly don't pay personal income tax. I know of one former NHLer...who make 14m over his 12 year career. He claims he never spend one dollar of his salary during his playing days. He was able to live....house/condo/wife/three kids on his auxiliary income as a hockey player. Apparently retired with a 50m incorporated assets.
But even if Marner did pay personal income tax, what does it have to do with Kucherov or the Lightning. It's not like Tampa has the cap is going to offer sheet Marner. Besides Marner can live in his parents basement just north of Toronto and live rent free.

 

[thewave]

Yes, they just see personal tax rates and think it's of any meaning. Players are incorporated, and especially high end earners certainly don't pay personal income tax. I know of one former NHLer...who make 14m over his 12 year career. He claims he never spend one dollar of his salary during his playing days. He was able to live....house/condo/wife/three kids on his auxiliary income as a hockey player. Apparently retired with a 50m incorporated assets.
But even if Marner did pay personal income tax, what does it have to do with Kucherov or the Lightning. It's not like Tampa has the cap is going to offer sheet Marner. Besides Marner can live in his parents basement just north of Toronto and live rent free.

Some say that and others say it matters. Nobody seems to really know or be willing to say definitively. I read what you are saying and tend to agree but then guys are on TV and saying it goes the other way.

Who do we believe? Accountants have weighed in on this here as well and said it matters.

 

[LeafFever]

It's funny to remember all of the hate us Leaf fans got comparing Marner to Gaudreau.
I'd say they're definitely comparable players now eh?

JG 38gp 51p
MM 38gp 53p

Every Leaf player is overrated.

 

[diceman934]

Only a fool believes that players under tax laws in Canada and probably the US pay personal tax rates. You never hear of Blue Jays or Raptors demanding premium pay for playing in Canada but somehow the tax experts on this site think it's an issue.

It is not an issue as I posted exactly the tax loop hole that allows a player to be tax at 15% federal tax which is at worse the same as players playing in Florida, Texas etc. The provincial tax is another issue with many ways to reduce your tax. As well all players are taxed based where they play their games as they pay tax in each state they play in.

 

[LeafsNation75]