Is Jack Eichel the weakest of the four?

[kelsier]

McDavid is the best, he isn't Mario Lemieux or anything but he's clearly the best of this group.

Matthews and Eichel are on the same level.

Then there is Laine, the only winger and player who has legit good, proven linemates to start his career.

And then there's a random Leaf's fan with a track record of long anti-Laine campaign, shooting blank bullets.

Laine isn't the odd man out. You don't have to be a center to be the better player than the guy sitting next to you at the bench.

 

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[bauer]

McDavid is the best, he isn't Mario Lemieux or anything but he's clearly the best of this group.

Matthews and Eichel are on the same level.

Then there is Laine, the only winger and player who has legit good, proven linemates to start his career.

huh? McDavid doesn't have proven linemates? he had Hall and Eberle last year and Lucic and Eberle this year.

Matthews has Nylander, and Eichel has Reinhart and Kane. total rubbish to say Laine is the only one with good/proven linemates.

McDavid is the best. but the other 3 are all close right now.

i always laugh when someone (mainly Leaf fans) says Matthews is better than Laine. why? just because he was chosen first overall? Hall was chosen first over Seguin and Seguin is now clearly the better player. hell, Tarasenko went 16th in that draft and he might be the best of all players that year. DRAFT ORDER DOES NOT DICTATE HOW GOOD A PLAYER WILL BE. some of you Matthews thumpers need to get that through your thick heads. just because he was chosen first does not automatically mean he will be the better player from here on out.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Laine
McDavid
Matthews
Eichel

 

[stepdad gaary]

i think eichel will be the worst of the 4. doesnt mean i think he's going to be bad at all.


I think McDavid is clearly the best. At this point its tough to say between matthews and laine. I'm leaning towards Laine. Then Eichel. Doesnt mean he's bad

 

[Lehkonen4Calder]

Mcdavid
Laine

Eichel
Matthews

 

[oilerbear]

He wasn't PPG in his rookie year, so far all the others are and have been.

I loved him when he was drafted, still do. But his production so far has been a little disappointing.

Real comparisons:
Even
what comp does the player face?
Elite PvP 1st comp Forwards get .5-.6 EVPPG
Elite slight sheltered 2nd comp Forwards get .7-.9 EVPPG

PP Points are dependent on time given by coach.

Looking at U20 performance the last 3 seasons.
14-15 to 16-17
In order of performance relative to comp and age.

1. Mcdavid
16-17 19 yr season
Even
1st comp .86 EVp/gm
pp
.36 PPP/gm

2. Mcdavid:
15-16 18 yr season
Even
bottom 1st comp .76 EVP/gm
PP
.31 PPP/gm

3. Laine
16-17 18 yr season
Even
Bottom 1st comp .57 EVP/gm
playing with 2 top 20 Even forwards. Schieffle; Wheeler
PP
.50 PPP/gm

4. Mackinnon
14-15 19 yr season
Even:
Upper 1st comp .48 EVp/gm
PP
.11 PPP/gm

5. Pastarnak
15-16 19 yr season
Even:
1st comp .49 EVP/gm
PP:
.02 PPP/gm

6. Konecny
16-17 19 yr season
Even
bottom 1st comp .50 EVP/gm
PP
.14 PPP/gm

7. Werenski
16-17 19yr season
Even
Bottom 1st comp .50 EVP/gm
PP
.50 PPP/gm

8. Marner
16-17 19 yr season
Even:
bottom 2nd comp .69 EVP/gm
PP
.08 PPP/gm

9. Larkin
15-16 19 yr season
Even
2nd comp .50 EVP/60
PP
.06 PPP/gm

10. Mathews
16-17 19 yr season
Even:
bottom 2nd comp .54 EVP/gm
PP
.31 PPP/gm

11. Tkachuk
16-17 19 yr season
Even:
bottom 2nd comp .50 EVp/gm
PP
.00 PPP/gm

12. Ehlers
15-16 19 yr season
Even:
Upper 2nd comp .38 EVP/gm
PP:
.15 PPP/gm

13. Eichel
15-16 19yr season
Even:
bot 2nd comp .43 EVp/gm
PP
.26 PPP/gm

14. Pastarnak
14-15 18 yr season
Even:
Bottom 3rd comp .52 EVP/gm
PP:
.07 PPP/gm

15. Barkov
14-15 19 yr season
Even:
3rd comp .41 EVP/gm
PP
.10 PPP/gm

16. Fabbri
15-16 19 yr season
Even:
3rd comp .40 EVP/gm
PP
.11 PPP/gm

17. Drouin
14-15 19 yr season
Even:
3rd comp .37 EVP/gm
PP:
.09 PPP/gm

18. Bennett
15-16 19 yr season
Even:
3rd comp .36 EVp/60
PP
.10 PPP/60

19. Burakovsky
14-15 19 yr season
Even
3rd comp .36 EVp/gm
PP
.06 PPP/gm

20. Horvat 19 yr season
14-15 19 yr season
Even:
3rd comp .35 EVP/gm
PP
0.00 PPP/gm

Gives a reference were these perceived performances are compared to reality!

Nylander
16-17 20 yr season
Even:
bottom 2nd comp .38 EVp/gm
PP
.54 PPP/gm

Draisatl
15-16 20 yr
Even
1st comp .58 EVP/gm; top 10 PvP forwards
PP
.13 PPP/gm

 

[ACC1224]

The second best US center drafted in the past two seasons.

McDavid is Canadian though.

McDavid
Matthews
Eichel

 

[piteus]

Weakest of the four? Relative to the potential of those 4, it's not an insult. But there's still a long way to go before the complete product is seen.

 

[McFlyingV]

huh? McDavid doesn't have proven linemates? he had Hall and Eberle last year and Lucic and Eberle this year.

Matthews has Nylander, and Eichel has Reinhart and Kane. total rubbish to say Laine is the only one with good/proven linemates.

McDavid is the best. but the other 3 are all close right now.

i always laugh when someone (mainly Leaf fans) says Matthews is better than Laine. why? just because he was chosen first overall? Hall was chosen first over Seguin and Seguin is now clearly the better player. hell, Tarasenko went 16th in that draft and he might be the best of all players that year. DRAFT ORDER DOES NOT DICTATE HOW GOOD A PLAYER WILL BE. some of you Matthews thumpers need to get that through your thick heads. just because he was chosen first does not automatically mean he will be the better player from here on out.

Not arguing your point because you're right, but McDavid played maybe 4 total games with Hall as his linemate (excluding PP).

 

[KevEggs]

When I watch Eichel, he doesn't live up to the hype. I also haven't watched too many of his games, but I watched him play about 10 full games and parts of others and he has some good highlights but I don't think he will be generational like everybody says, but still a pretty good player. McDavid is generational I've watched him about the same amount as Eichel and he is unbelievable. Matthews makes great plays and has great hands and hockey sense but I would say he's real close to Eichel in terms of ability to be a great hockey player. Laine is more inconsistent than all of the players and sometimes loops and plays too passively, but when he's on he can't be stopped and he has shown he can be super clutch in many games and his release is better than any of the 4 by a mile. Overall, they are all going to be great players and its hard to compare 3 centers where 1 is well above the others, 1 hasn't played at all this year, and 1 has less than 15 games under his belt and the other is a winger who does look pretty promising so far. I say we wait 5 years and see where they're all at