Is c>winger argument overrated?

[Leafsrock95]

outside of generational players (mcdavid, Crosby and Mallon) the best players have been wingers. Kane and kucherov. Upcoming guys like gaudreau is making his case. Marner and rantanen are both out producing the #1 c on their teams.

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[Filthy Dangles]

The best players usually center growing up and in the NHL. It's a general rule but of course there are lots of wingers better than their center counterparts...

 

[The Nuge]

It doesn’t completely change who the better player is. Monahan isn’t magically better than Gaudreau because he’s a center. But if 2 players are equal, and one is a center, you take the center

 

[Leafsrock95]

It doesn’t completely change who the better player is. Monahan isn’t magically better than Gaudreau because he’s a center. But if 2 players are equal, and one is a center, you take the center

Ya but outside of McDavid the best players are wingers rn

 

[daver]

Ya but outside of McDavid the best players are wingers rn

This doesn't change the gist of their post.

 

[aufheben]

Probably.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

Ya but outside of McDavid the best players are wingers rn

Pettersson is a center

 

[CapnZin]

Ya but outside of McDavid the best players are wingers rn

Crosby/Malkin, Matthews, Eichel, Giroux (C, but plays wing sometimes), Barkov, Seguin, Kopitar, Aho, Bergeron, and more are all phenomenal and the best players on their team respectively.

*Some BOS fans may rip me for that, but I believe Bergeron is better than Marchand and Pasta.

I think using C > W as the main argument for determining who is better isn’t the best course of action. Idk, but that’s just me. C has more responsibility so I can see that being an argument. I just think that’s kind of like saying RHD are more valuable because it’s a much rarer occurance that prospects are RHD.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Players like Kucherov, Kane and Gaudreau assume the centerman's role in the ozone. It's only on the defensive side that their role is diminished relative to centers. This is why you often see play-driving wingers paired with complimentary centers like Bozak, Bonino, Anisimov, Strome etc.

 

[Beauner]

Ya but outside of McDavid the best players are wingers rn

There's this Crosby guy.... you may have heard of him

 

[shtorm2005]

It doesn’t completely change who the better player is. Monahan isn’t magically better than Gaudreau because he’s a center. But if 2 players are equal, and one is a center, you take the center

If W and C have same numbers of points, W is better.

 

[CherryToke]

No. Ideally you have centers playing wing that can fill in at center in case of injury. Pretty much any good center can also play wing.

 

[412 Others]

If W and C have same numbers of points, W is better.

Wrong. The C managed to get those points while also carrying out many more responsibilities. W can just float and fly the D zone early.

 

[shtorm2005]

Wrong. The C managed to get those points while also carrying out many more responsibilities.

Wrong, C get more points because of his position on the ice.

 

[Plub]

outside of generational players (mcdavid, Crosby and Mallon) the best players have been wingers. Kane and kucherov. Upcoming guys like gaudreau is making his case. Marner and rantanen are both out producing the #1 c on their teams.

Marner and Matthews have the same ppg and Matthews does significantly more in the defensive end than Marner. Not sure what you mean by "out producing ".

 

[412 Others]

Wrong, C get more points because of his position on the ice.

You should sign up for NHL Hockey and play C. Those free C points will make you rich.

 

[bukwas]

It would depend on who you talk to. Some people certainly take it too far though for many of them there is an agenda that they feel needs a little push.

 

[shtorm2005]

You should sign up for NHL Hockey and play C. Those free C points will make you rich.

No, they will take winger instead of me with real points than free ones.

 

[412 Others]

No, they will take winger instead of me with real points than free ones.

Real points = stationary one timers on the power play.

 

[SEALBound]

Assume:

Two players.

Both equal in skill sets.

The center is worth more than the wing.

Example: Henrik Sedin is worth more than Danial Sedin.

 

[shtorm2005]

Real points = stationary one timers on the power play.

Sudden death goals look spectacular in every arena, well, I guess except in PPG Paint one, ppl there stand and roar "Assist" when goal is scored.

 

[CherryToke]

This thread is killing my brain cells.

 

[Tatar Shots]

Yes, it is a very overrated and overused argument. Especially when people use it as a magical tiebreaker by assuming that the center provides more to his team defensively. While this is certainly true for some centers, people use it as a blanket statement. For example, I'm sure you can find numerous posts on this site (going back several years) of people claiming Stamkos is better than Kane because he is a center. When really, Stamkos does not provide anything defensively that Kane does not by virtue of being a center. If a player is capable of driving the offense from the winger position, he is as valuable as the guy that lines up at center offensively.

 

[Pyrophorus]

At times

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

All things being equal and yes even points, I’m taking the Center over the winger.