News Article: Interview with Nail Yakupov about his summer and personal relationships

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Yeah I have concerns with how this team has dealt with Yakupov. I wonder why I would have any of that..

I guess we can all just put our blinders on and pretend last season didn't happen. But it did.

With Eakins still somehow being the coach.

What does any of that have to do with the interview at hand? You've taken every comment made by Yakupov and assumed they are all indictments of the organization. You're interpreting it how you want to interpret it.

I think some of your assertions are out to lunch on this topic.

 

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What does any of that have to do with the interview at hand? You've taken every comment made by Yakupov and assumed they are all indictments of the organization. You're interpreting it how you want to interpret it.

I think some of your assertions are out to lunch on this topic.

No, I have assumed this org is worthy of indictments. I've thought that for a longtime. Of that I'm certain. Articles like this just give little tidbits.

You're misinterpreting. Of course I have contempt for how this club is run. I have that for obvious reasons which have been mentioned. I don't have that from this or any other one article.

How else really would I interpret this org but that it is worthy of criticism?

 

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No, I have assumed this org is worthy of indictments. I've thought that for a longtime. Of that I'm certain. Articles like this just give little tidbits.

You're misinterpreting. Of course I have contempt for how this club is run. I have that for obvious reasons which have been mentioned. I don't have that from this or any other one article.

How else really would I interpret this org but that it is worthy of criticism?

I see why you could view the tidbits from this article in such a way. Personally for me while reading the article I got the impression that Yak seemed content and happy. There was no sense of malice in the way he talked. Although that could simply be the translation, but from reading, I don't see Yak trying to paint a negative picture on the club. For all we know perhaps he didn't want rides from anyone or his parents offered to pick him up. Or maybe he would get rides from teammates but generalized it because it happened so few and far between.

Of course all of that is speculation, as is what you are interpreting. I'm not saying what you are interpreting is wrong and in fact I understand why you could feel that way. But to me, the article came off as Yak at peace with himself and past what happened last season

 

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No, I have assumed this org is worthy of indictments. I've thought that for a longtime. Of that I'm certain. Articles like this just give little tidbits.

You're misinterpreting. Of course I have contempt for how this club is run. I have that for obvious reasons which have been mentioned. I don't have that from this or any other one article.

How else really would I interpret this org but that it is worthy of criticism?

Who doesn't have contempt for how the organization is run. It's been the laughing stock of the league for the better part of a decade. But in this interview I don't see it.

Yakupov says he finally can drive on his own so his family doesn't have to drive him anymore.

Yakupov missed his family and friends in Russia.

Local NHLer owns a house and is renting it to Yakupov and his family for the season. (Why would a player in Edmonton have a second house to rent out exactly?)

Yakupov see's Yakimov every day, practices with him every day, any time Yakimov has problems Yakupov helps him out and Yakupov says that it's a good thing that the organization wants to limit the amount of time they spend together so Yakimov can learn English. Even has an anecdote about how a similar thing happened with him and Alex Galchenyuk.

Somehow all of this indicates to you problems with the organization. It isn't there. Not in this article. This isn't an English class where you need to analyze the subtext of the article. All you're doing here is pushing your agenda.

There are numerous things to crap on the organization for. You don't need to find more of them in these comments when they aren't there.

 

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Who doesn't have contempt for how the organization is run. It's been the laughing stock of the league for the better part of a decade. But in this interview I don't see it.

Yakupov says he finally can drive on his own so his family doesn't have to drive him anymore.

Yakupov missed his family and friends in Russia.

Local NHLer owns a house and is renting it to Yakupov and his family for the season. (Why would a player in Edmonton have a second house to rent out exactly?)

Yakupov see's Yakimov every day, practices with him every day, any time Yakimov has problems Yakupov helps him out and Yakupov says that it's a good thing that the organization wants to limit the amount of time they spend together so Yakimov can learn English. Even has an anecdote about how a similar thing happened with him and Alex Galchenyuk.

Somehow all of this indicates to you problems with the organization. It isn't there. Not in this article. This isn't an English class where you need to analyze the subtext of the article. All you're doing here is pushing your agenda.

There are numerous things to crap on the organization for. You don't need to find more of them in these comments when they aren't there.

I'm just saying its possible I have confirmation bias..

Again I don't derive my opinion on the org from that one article. But I'm honest enough not to deny my opinion of the org one iota.

 

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I see why you could view the tidbits from this article in such a way. Personally for me while reading the article I got the impression that Yak seemed content and happy. There was no sense of malice in the way he talked. Although that could simply be the translation, but from reading, I don't see Yak trying to paint a negative picture on the club. For all we know perhaps he didn't want rides from anyone or his parents offered to pick him up. Or maybe he would get rides from teammates but generalized it because it happened so few and far between.

Of course all of that is speculation, as is what you are interpreting. I'm not saying what you are interpreting is wrong and in fact I understand why you could feel that way. But to me, the article came off as Yak at peace with himself and past what happened last season

My own take is he's trying to convince himself of these things. Before the ****show starts happening again.

This is no knock on Yak. Unless somebody has had a long talk with Eakins I fear its round two.

I love Yakupov, like I've stated. But it took 1 week last year for Eakins to piss all over the same enthusiasm that Yak brought last year, and every year.

What this org has done to Yak isn't about Yak. Its about an org that allowed a coach to single out a rookie player for criticism and bench him two games only 4 games into the schedule.

I've rarely seen anything like it.

 

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My own take is he's trying to convince himself of these things. Before the ****show starts happening again.

This is no knock on Yak. Unless somebody has had a long talk with Eakins I fear its round two.

I love Yakupov, like I've stated. But it took 1 week last year for Eakins to piss all over the same enthusiasm that Yak brought last year, and every year.

What this org has done to Yak isn't about Yak. Its about an org that allowed a coach to single out a rookie player for criticism and bench him two games only 4 games into the schedule.

I've rarely seen anything like it.

Completely agree that Yak was horribly mistreated that first week, and misused almost the entire season. Question for you. Would you still feel contempt towards the organization in regards to the Yak treatment if things drastically change this season? What I mean by that is that Eakins starts treating Yak fairly, and giving him the same kind of leash as say ebs and hall, if he shows that he can earn it. If eakins shows his support for yak and puts him into a position to succeed?

What would be your opinion then?

Personally for me I understand Eakins was a rookie coach and he made many, many terrible mistakes on many nights. But if he remarkably can show that he has improved drastically over the off season, I can reserve judgment. We always reserve judgment for rookie players and with ramsay coming in, I believe Eakins will have a better year with less responsibilities

 

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Completely agree that Yak was horribly mistreated that first week, and misused almost the entire season. Question for you. Would you still feel contempt towards the organization in regards to the Yak treatment if things drastically change this season? What I mean by that is that Eakins starts treating Yak fairly, and giving him the same kind of leash as say ebs and hall, if he shows that he can earn it. If eakins shows his support for yak and puts him into a position to succeed?

What would be your opinion then?

Personally for me I understand Eakins was a rookie coach and he made many, many terrible mistakes on many nights. But if he remarkably can show that he has improved drastically over the off season, I can reserve judgment. We always reserve judgment for rookie players and with ramsay coming in, I believe Eakins will have a better year with less responsibilities

Fair questions. I think it was a huge mistake for a club raising a lot of rookies to hire a rookie coach. The dynamic that creates is chaos and confusion where it becomes almost expected that some face saving and finger pointing will result. Keep in mind my comments on this are not after the fact either. I questioned exactly this at the time of the Eakins hire. That it was a poor idea to compound inexperience.

The legendary Oilers team in the early 80's had Sather behind the bench, Fogolin, Hicks, Weir, Lariviere, among many others offering key veteran support. With the personalities as well as on ice play being important. Point being ample veteran presence, ability to calm the team down, and not point fingers was present on that team. It wasn't at all last year on this club.

My take is Sather still knows more about putting a team together than anybody present in this org.

A player like Yak would probably love to have some of the steadying presence of players and coaching from some of who I mentioned.

Maybe Ramsay is that guy?

 

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Fair questions. I think it was a huge mistake for a club raising a lot of rookies to hire a rookie coach. The dynamic that creates is chaos and confusion where it becomes almost expected that some face saving and finger pointing will result. Keep in mind my comments on this are not after the fact either. I questioned exactly this at the time of the Eakins hire. That it was a poor idea to compound inexperience.

The legendary Oilers team in the early 80's had Sather behind the bench, Fogolin, Hicks, Huddy, Weir, Lariviere, among many others offering key veteran support. With the personalities as well as on ice play being important. Point being ample veteran presence, ability to calm the team down, and not point fingers was present on that team. It wasn't at all last year on this club.

My take is Sather still knows more about putting a team together than anybody present in this org.

A player like Yak would probably love to have some of the steadying presence of players and coaching from some of who I mentioned.

Maybe Ramsay is that guy?

I think Ramsay will help, he has the experience to add a lot to this organization. From what I hear he is going to be very helpful to Yak in particular.

Maybe not the most ideal veteran types, but Pouliot, Purcell and Fayne all have veteran aspects. Pouliot and Fayne have both been to the Stanley Cup Final. And Ference has won it. Now I know Ference wasn't the player we all thought he would be, our expectations were way too high (a common theme last summer for many). But that is still veteran presence. Obviously we want established top end players, but those type of players aren't going to FA or tradeable right now. Would it have been awesome to land Suter and Parise? Of course. But we really cant be picking and choosing.

I have no idea what to expect this season with regards to Yak. I am however leaving my expectations very tempered. I want him to succeed and I want him to develop into the star that he can be. Lets only hope that Ramsay and the surrounding new players can provide some of that "veteran" support

 

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One could put Eakins name in here just as easily. The coach that sunk a veritable rookie (lockout year rookie season limited Yaks NHL exposure) only 4 games into the season singling him out for a two game benching. One player of note was horrible in those games. Name was Dubnyk.

You're right about Doob.

But with regards to Yak being benched - it's called tough love. It's what coaches have to do (sometimes).

Does it work the same way for each player? No.
Is it always the right thing to do? Not always.
Could it pay off with Yak in the long run? We'll find out.

You mustn't criticize the coaches choices so concretely. In some cases the things a coach does will pay dividends AFTER an initial set back.

Players cannot be coddled and if someone is told to play a certain way and continually misses assignments or departs from the structure the team is trying to build, sometimes you have to set an example with said player.

On the flip side, I could be totally wrong and Eakins may have regressed some of yak's development. As I said above, time will tell.

 

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I'm sick of hearing about "enigmatic" Russians. Are Canadian players never enigmatic, or swedes or Americans or Finns?

The biggest enigmas in edm:
1)Krueger got fired for icing a competitive team that just fell out of the playoff race at the end of the season, and players had career years under Krueger. Eakins kept his job despite having decent players quit the team or fall off the map completely, and icing a team that was blown out of the game before the middle of the second period with metronome consistency.
2)Hardly any Oiler fans are *****ing about the long-term monster contracts that mact dished out to an AHL coach and some mediocre nhlers with limited roles. Isn't that what hf oilers is famous for - *****ing about contracts?
3)The oilers just played what was by far the worst season of their entire 35 year history and then raised ticket prices to pay for their terrible coach and some 3rd liners.

Those are enigmas. Yakupov (lol my iphone changes his name to yak upon) struggling as a sophomore on a team where proven players faltered mightily is the exact opposite of an enigma.