Rumor: In-season Proposals, Rumors, Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics) LXVII
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cgf
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I'm just hoping Carolina falls apart and embraces the tank so that Sekera could come into play. That's a guy I'd give up good pieces + a conditional first for.
I am mistaking or Yandle have been on the trade market for a very long time . I think i heard something, a long time ago that PHX were desperately looking to trade him ... or along those lines . As good as Yandle can be and a huge improvement on our Dcor , not sure i'm willing to give one of our key player for a guy that PHX will almost drive themself to the airport .
Foppa2118
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. Most teams have to do 1 for 1 or 2 for 2 type trades so the salary evens out. Fitting O'Reily in somewhere at $6M won't be easy.
The Avs love doing 1 for 1 type hockey trades. If he's traded I doubt it will be him by himself for multiple smaller pieces with upside for the future. It will be for someone that can help them now. Otherwise they'll hold onto him until UFA like Stastny.
It might be a lesser player than we want, but I think it will be that type of deal.
Maybe later on in the season, but not early. Jiggy was playing out of his mind last year around this time.
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The Avs were playing a lot better last year in front of the goalies than they are this year. Actual goalie play Berra has been excellent. I'm talking whole year sort of thing. Not the first few games. I know I know JSG got injured. The statement was that goalie play has slipped... Other than Pickard, it hasn't.
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Eh, I'm ok with them not doing anything for a while and seeing if the forwards can't get going, if Redmond can't establish himself as a + 3rd pairing guy, and if siemens can't get a call up to show some things.
Sekera is really someone we should target, but I think 25 other teams are thinking the same. It's not gonna be cheap. Carolina will only trade him, If they get offer they can't refuse.
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And open up new holes up front while blocking our best prospects. If we can trade for Sekera at the deadline and re-sign him it would be asinine to ship out O'Reilly when we have Hejda, Stuart, Siemens and Bigras for this season and the following two, all except for hejda.
Sekera and EJ could play 25-30 minutes a night together and be awesome for every second of it. Both Hejda and Stuart can partner Barrie competently on the second pairing for now, how long that lasts is a crucial question but I think there's a good chance Stuart can play at this level when next season begins, at which point Siemens will hopefully be taking Holden's job like Redmond is doing with Guenin's, from which Dunk can earn a promotion as the season progresses and/or Stuart fades.
With Redmond hopefully solidifying himself on the third pairing we should be just fine partnering him with Hejda or Stuart for the rest of this year, Holden as a nacho-eater/temporary-fill-in when needed, aka being Wilson'd, Siemens making the jump by some point next year, and a little further down the line, Bigras...provided the kids don't suddenly stagnate, the oldies don't both fall apart right away, and that we can actually get sekera without moving ROR or our first this season.
I just can't see how we're not better off with:
O'Reilly - Duchene - McGinn
Landy - MacKinnon - Iginla
Tanguay - Malkin - Everberg
Talbot - Winchester - Briere
Bordeleau, Cliche & McCleod
(2014-15 / 2015-16)
Sekera / Sekera - EJ / EJ
Hejda or Stuart/ Stuart - Barrie / Barrie
Stuart or Hejda / Siemens or Holden - Redmond or Holden / Redmond
than with:
Tanguay - Duchene - McGinn
Landy - MacKinnon - Iginla
Talbot - Mitchell - Everbeast
Cody, Bordy or Cliche - Winchester - Briere
(2014-15 / 2015-16)
Sekera / Sekera - EJ / EJ
ROR trade / ROR trade - Barrie / Barrie
Hejda or Stuart / Stuart or Siemens - Stuart or Redmond / Redmond or Stuart
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I don't remember where I read that but Yandle is linked to the city of Boston. He is UFA in 2 years (like ROR)...Don't sure we can resign him after...
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They were playing better, but I don't think Berra's really been exceptional. He's just been good.
Jiggy was undefeated in his first five games around this time last year. Only giving up five goals total, and had two shutouts. He was stopping everything, and we know this team, there's only so well they can play defensively.
It's not a critique on Berra, but more a nod to how well Jiggy was playing. You could tell he was really motivated to impress his idol in what might have been his last season.
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I'd still love to see an O'Reilly-Simmonds swap that we discussed in the summer. Then go and get his best friend for cheap from Buffalo. Then the Avs will just punch their way to the Cup.
Simmonds-Duchene-Stewart
Landeskog-MacKinnon-Iginla
McGinn-Mitchell-Tanguay
Everberg-Winchester-Bordeleau
That size and toughness.
Simmonds-Duchene-Stewart
Landeskog-MacKinnon-Iginla
McGinn-Mitchell-Tanguay
Everberg-Winchester-Bordeleau
That size and toughness.
Never gonna happen. Philly already has a potentially-better version of O'Reilly in Couturier, and if I'm not mistaken Laughton is supposed to be a hell of a two-way player in his own right.
If Philly trades Simmonds (which they absolutely shouldn't) it'll be for a d-man.
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Philly is a great example of why the Avs haven't pulled the trigger on all these defenders that were available. Philly got half of them and they still need defense. They must have 7 top 4 defenseman on that team. They still suck.
The Kulikov one stings. He would have made a difference for us.
The Kulikov one stings. He would have made a difference for us.
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Yeah, Simmonds could probably bring in a defenceman who scored 10 goals last season, plays PP, PK, and averages almost 22 minutes of ice time...
Um...what?
7 top-4 d-men? Apart from Streit and Coburn (and Streit is kinda/sorta a toss-up at his age) they have none. Maybe Timonen.And I'm beginning to wonder about just how Kulikov really is.
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Um...what?
And I'm beginning to wonder about just how Kulikov really is.
When they traded for these guys they were all top 4 defenseman.
When they acquired MacD, Schenn, Streit they were all supposed to be top 4 guys. My point was just that lots criticize the Avs for not pulling the trigger, but these are the questionable moves that are happening. Philly goes out and makes those deals and so far, they really haven't paid off at all. So it may not be the worst thing. Patience is probably the way to go.
I wouldn't be jumping all over Myers or Gormley unless you can buy low.
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I don't think Simmonds would be good with Avs. They don't have anyone that can run a PP like Giroux.
Avs don't use a screening player well on the PP at all. They don't shoot for deflections and they don't even shoot much at all, so there aren't rebounds to fish for.
Avs don't use a screening player well on the PP at all. They don't shoot for deflections and they don't even shoot much at all, so there aren't rebounds to fish for.
Yeah, that's been frustrating. They seemingly aren't moving the puck around as much and certainly aren't releasing it fast enough. It feels like everyone's taking forever to wind up for a shot.
Simmonds would be awesome regardless, but Philly ain't trading him unless they can package him for D help. Of course they traded away key players in Carter and Richards and didn't get a defenseman and then decided to sign the Corpse of Vincent Lecavalier, so who knows what they'll do.
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