Proposal: Ilya Kovalchuk to Boston.

[MSLs absurd thighs]

I hope Montreal re-signs him.

1. Montreal has a lot of young forwards who could learn a couple of things from him.
2. He apparently has a great attitude.
3. He adds some size to a lineup that sorely lacks some.
4. Having him would make North America that much more attractive to Romanov.
5. Let's be honest. Russians generally thrive in Montreal. And so far the fit is great.

 

[Wats]

If the Bruins wanted Kovy, they would have had him for $700K. They don't want him.

You think NHL scouts see him in Montreal and say, 'oh wow, we were completely wrong about him, sorry Mr general manager'? Can we give up our 2nd round pick to get him now?

Happens a lot actually. Players sign for cheap in summer and boost their value through their play in the season. Heck there are situations where Bergevin waived Condon and he gets traded for a 5th rounder by team that claimed him like couple weeks later.

 

[Rosso Scuderia]

Some people here are quite innocent or just plain ignorant.

It's not because nobody signed him weeks ago for 700k means that they wouldn't want him now.

It's like you never watch hockey before to understand that some players can do better with a new team, a new start, in a new role.

In term of production, yes the sample is still small but if any of you, or the GMs or whatever, watched him play with the Habs, it's quite obvious that Kovalchuk is still good enough to help any teams that needs depth on the wing. His speed is not a problem, he's still a big, right shooter that can score like any middle 6 wingers. And its not like he's getting his stats boosted by his wingers, he's playing with Danault and Tatar right now, 2 good players but not superstars and yet he still manages to be a PPG player after 7 games.

It's like when Radulov came back from the KHL, Montreal gave him a chance, he played great with us and got himself a multi-year contract with Dallas. If Kovalchuk continues to play like this, and I think he will, teams will no doubt inquire for him at trade deadline. I actually think that was his strategy. Do his best until the TDL and eventually get traded to a contender so he can get a chance to win the cup.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He was worth basically nothing. If he keeps this up, then maybe Mtl can get a 5th or 6th round pick from someone desperate.

False narrative. What he was worth prior to signing with the Habs means less than what kind of production he puts up with the 22 games he will play for the Habs from when we signed him till deadline. You would love to acquire him for a 5th or 6th but think about supply and demand. If Kovalchuk puts up 18-22 pts or more in 22 games, there is going to be some eyebrows raised and lots of teams interested... especially how easy he is to fit in with the cap he has.

I bet that you won't bet he will get a 5th or 6th and that is it. Words are cheap

 

[BruinsBtn]

He had other offers. He went to the place that offered him the most ice time due to the habs having a ton of wingers injured, not the most money. So no, he probably wasn’t interested in the Bruins at 700k. He just trying to reestablish himself for future contracts.

Yeah, show the reports that say that because there are plenty of them out there that outright said the Bruins weren't interested at all.

 

[smack66]

He had other offers. He went to the place that offered him the most ice time due to the habs having a ton of wingers injured, not the most money. So no, he probably wasn’t interested in the Bruins at 700k. He just trying to reestablish himself for future contracts.

can you share a link showing he had multiple offers? the only links i know of speak of teams not interested.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

A late pick.
Don lost his chance for a free asset.

 

[Moose Head]

Yeah, show the reports that say that because there are plenty of them out there that outright said the Bruins weren't interested at all.

Where the hell did I say he had an offer from the Bruins?

 

[BruinsBtn]

Where the hell did I say he had an offer from the Bruins?

He said he wanted to go to a contender...then he went to the Habs... that tells you all you need to know about the offers that were out there...nada.

 

[CupInSIX]

6th and a conditional 4th plus another conditional 4th based on playoff points and games played.

 

[SEALBound]

No team is going to give anything of value for the guy. If they wanted him, they would have signed him for free. If a team wants him, Montreal will basically do Kovy a favor and send him there. I expect the return to be a 7th, not unlike Kovalev in 2011.

 

[Godzilla]

Boston fans - 7th rounder, and a small bag of pucks....not a big bag

Habs fans - 2nd rounder and a prospect



Everyone else - Montreal sucks, wont get anything for him because its Montreal.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Doubt he pulls a 2nd. Maybe a 3rd or 4th and reclamation type prospect.

Kovalchuk going to prove you wrong and I bet you there will be multiple 2nd round picks on the table from several teams at the deadline. Bruins have to pay more vs others . Sorry but you would do it to us if the situation was reversed.

Supply and Demand always sets the price. Not much top 6 talent available and Kovalchuk playing better and better with the Habs and we will be getting healthy. Stars are lining up. Don't be jealous that his value was shit before we signed him and he produced with the Habs cause we are playing him in the right role.

 

[Habs Halifax]

No team is going to give anything of value for the guy. If they wanted him, they would have signed him for free. If a team wants him, Montreal will basically do Kovy a favor and send him there. I expect the return to be a 7th, not unlike Kovalev in 2011.

You are ignoring context. Values change with time and trends.

 

[Godzilla]

Still has wicked everything, he’s even fast, yes he’s actually a fast player.

Fast?....

No, he's not fast. His experience gives him the ability to be in the right spot at the right time on the ice which makes him look fast, but you make him sound like he's Paul Byron or something. Lets get real here...

 

[Habs Halifax]

can you share a link showing he had multiple offers? the only links i know of speak of teams not interested.

LeBrun was talking about it on air last night during intermission

 

[Habs Halifax]

Fast?....

No, he's not fast. His experience gives him the ability to be in the right spot at the right time on the ice which makes him look fast, but you make him sound like he's Paul Byron or something. Lets get real here...

I don't think you have watched one single game he has played with the Habs yet. He's been very good and his skating is not elite but certainly looks good out there.

 

[Godzilla]

I hope Montreal re-signs him.

1. Montreal has a lot of young forwards who could learn a couple of things from him.
2. He apparently has a great attitude.
3. He adds some size to a lineup that sorely lacks some.
4. Having him would make North America that much more attractive to Romanov.
5. Let's be honest. Russians generally thrive in Montreal. And so far the fit is great.

We said all those things with Radulov....

 

[Godzilla]

I don't think you have watched one single game he has played with the Habs yet.

Yes, I watched them all. He's not that fast, but his hockey IQ is quite high.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yes, I watched them all. He's not that fast, but his hockey IQ is quite high.

He's far from being slow and ineffective in terms of skating ability though. I think the word fast is relative to how he looked with the Kings. But that was more about being uninspired to play

 

[Archijerej]

He was worth basically nothing. If he keeps this up, then maybe Mtl can get a 5th or 6th round pick from someone desperate.

If he keeps this up it basically means he's a top-6 right handed rental forward at the deadline. Please explain to me, how other GM's previous error in judgement would lower his price at that point?

 

[Habs Halifax]

We said all those things with Radulov....

We wanted to sign Radulov. Bergevin tried for months (Dec of 2016 - Jul of 2017). Radulov was shopping our offers and circled back to the Habs after the Stars said yes to a contract and then asked Bergevin to offer more to offset taxes. That's when Bergevin got frustrated with both Markov and Radulov and the quotes came out... "you want loyalty, buy a dog" and "expect the unexpected"

Turns out that Radulov at $1M more AAV for 5 years would of still been a good contract. Would he have shopped that offer back to the Stars?

 

[Godzilla]

He's far from being slow and ineffective in terms of skating ability though. I think the word fast is relative to how he looked with the Kings. But that was more about being uninspired to play

Where did I say he was slow? I just think that the poster I quoted is exaggerating Kovalchuk's speed. He looks fast because of his positioning. He knows where to find lanes and create chances.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Where did I say he was slow? I just think that the poster I quoted is exaggerating Kovalchuk's speed. He looks fast because of his positioning. He knows where to find lanes and create chances.

Nah... you are moving it too much to the pessimistic side where he is surviving on skill and IQ too much. His skating is very good and saying he is fast is not overly wrong based on what I have seen in the last 7 games. Elite level? NO

Whatever, we probably see it close

 

[Cobra Commander]

Fast?....

No, he's not fast. His experience gives him the ability to be in the right spot at the right time on the ice which makes him look fast, but you make him sound like he's Paul Byron or something. Lets get real here...

We’re a fast team and his speed is just fine with us. If I was to rate his speed I would put him in the moderately fast category, Byron would be in the Turbo speed category.