I don't understand what the AHL requirements are for an arena. Will Thunder Bay play in an arena that seats 4600?
Even if TB sells out, they would be below league average and ranked about 16th. Heck, there are ECHL and Central league teams that draw more than 4600.
I guess, in this case, the AHL really doesn't get to decide in which market the team plays. However, I would think they could set a minimum capacity for barns in which league teams play.
Veteran players go where they get the most money/the best chance to get called up.
The current proposed arena is to have a capacity of 5700 although previous discussion was as high as 6500. Feasibility studies estimated average attendance for an AHL team in the city to average around 4600 per game.
Is it publicly or privately funded?
I will believe it when they break ground. Canadians, to their credit, don't seem to be as willing to throw public money at these things as we are in the US.
Still, I think it's sad the 2nd best hockey league in North America, arguably the World, plays in 4600 seat arenas.
I'm talking about guys on AHL deals.
If you have offers from Chicago, Austin, San Antonio and Thunder Bay, where are you signing?
As a minor-leaguer making low 6 figures, I'm going to Texas, no income tax and decent sized metro areas.
Is it publicly or privately funded?
I will believe it when they break ground. Canadians, to their credit, don't seem to be as willing to throw public money at these things as we are in the US.
Still, I think it's sad the 2nd best hockey league in North America, arguably the World, plays in 4600 seat arenas.
"Many" is overstating it a little. There's probably six or seven, but when you consider metro area populations the number of sub-100K AHL areas is probably two or three.
Forgiveness please, but used most honorable google-fu to compile populations of AHL cities.
Springfield MA 153,552
Manchester NH 110,209
Binghamton NY 46,551
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton PA 41,243+75,809
Albany NY 97,904
Norfolk VA 245,782
Providence RI 178,432
St. John's NL 100,645
Hershey PA 14,257
Worcester MA 182,669
Glens Falls NY 14,609
Syracuse NY 144,170
Portand ME 66,214
Bridgeport CT 146,425
Hartford CT 124,893
Grand Rapids MI 190,411
Toronto ON 2,503,000
Abbotsford BC 123,865
Milwaukee WI 598,916
Rosemont/Chicago IL 4,230+2,715,000
Hamilton ON 504,560
Rockford IL 150,843
Rochester NY 210,532
Charlotte NC 775,202
Oklahoma City OK 599,199
Cleveland OH 390,928
San Antonio TX 1,383,000
Utica NY 61,822
Des Moines IA 206,688
Cedar Park/Austin TX 57,957+842,592
Like 210 said if you take the greater metro areas into account there aren't many under 100,000 in population. Technically Rosemont is the smallest at 4,230, but its pretty much a part of greater Chicago. Hershey and Glens Falls are next 14,000, but they draw very heavily from their surrounding towns. It would be kinda humorous and amazing to picture well over 2/3rds of Hershey's population showing up to every home game though
The president of the IceCaps, Danny Williams has already approached NHL teams to get another team here in St Johns. As well as WPG and the NHL said they will help Williams bring another team here. He is also looking at buying a franchise
From the list provided, there were 9 which is almost a third of the teams that were around 100k or less.
From the below list:
Manchester
Binghampton
WBS
Albany
St. John's
Hershey
Glens Falls
Portland
Utica
And if you go to about 150 you can add Rockford, Springfield, Syracuse, Bridgeport, Hartford but I will give that the Hartford and Bridgeport metro areas probably bring their totals up over 200k.
Doesn't the Ice Caps have a good attendance?
Forgiveness please, but used most honorable google-fu to compile populations of AHL cities.
Springfield MA 153,552
Manchester NH 110,209
Binghamton NY 46,551
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton PA 41,243+75,809
Albany NY 97,904
Norfolk VA 245,782
Providence RI 178,432
St. John's NL 100,645
Hershey PA 14,257
Worcester MA 182,669
Glens Falls NY 14,609
Syracuse NY 144,170
Portand ME 66,214
Bridgeport CT 146,425
Hartford CT 124,893
Grand Rapids MI 190,411
Toronto ON 2,503,000
Abbotsford BC 123,865
Milwaukee WI 598,916
Rosemont/Chicago IL 4,230+2,715,000
Hamilton ON 504,560
Rockford IL 150,843
Rochester NY 210,532
Charlotte NC 775,202
Oklahoma City OK 599,199
Cleveland OH 390,928
San Antonio TX 1,383,000
Utica NY 61,822
Des Moines IA 206,688
Cedar Park/Austin TX 57,957+842,592
Like 210 said if you take the greater metro areas into account there aren't many under 100,000 in population. Technically Rosemont is the smallest at 4,230, but its pretty much a part of greater Chicago. Hershey and Glens Falls are next 14,000, but they draw very heavily from their surrounding towns. It would be kinda humorous and amazing to picture well over 2/3rds of Hershey's population showing up to every home game though
Milwaukee County, which isn't very big as counties go (less than 1200 sq miles)
They've sold out every game. It's not about attendance, the Jets just want their affiliate closer.
What AHL teams are NOT owned by their NHL affiliate ? Trying to see what teams might be for sale to move to St. John's, NL when the IceCaps leave
The short answer.... YES!
We have the largest amount of NHL players per capita
We sellout Canadian University Hockey with Lakehead Wolves
We do have a extended pop. That brings it up to 110,000.
I'll be looking for season tickets!
Not totally comparable, but think of Thunder Bay as the Green Bay of hockey.
What AHL teams are NOT owned by their NHL affiliate ? Trying to see what teams might be for sale to move to St. John's, NL when the IceCaps leave
Off hand: Syracuse, Chicago, Hershey, Portland, Providence, Springfield, Norfolk, Grand Rapids, Milwaukee, Rockford, OKC, and Texas.
That said, it doesn't mean much. Teams don't have to be sold to move.