Hurricanes Lounge XXX: The "Will I Stay or Will I Go?" edition

[The Faulker 27]

I'll believe an Elon Musk announcement well after it's actually been launched.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

No, I mean as a product. Available to actual customers.

Spoken as someone who was has been on his waiting list for a solar roof for like a hundred years now.

To be clear: I don't doubt his capabilities to do the things he says he's going to do. I seriously doubt his timeframes.

 

[MinJaBen]

I'll believe an Elon Musk announcement well after it's actually been launched.

Yeah, his dates are notoriously optimistic, but he has "launched" 180 of the satellites so far.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

He's also betting against 5G with this strategy, btw. SpaceX Is Banking on Satellite Internet. Maybe It Shouldn't

 

[The Faulker 27]

Yeah, his dates are notoriously optimistic, but he has "launched" 180 of the satellites so far.

Being a network engineer, I'll be curious to see the details of the roll out and what the real world performance is like. The biggest challenge with Satellite internet is the latency between satellite and earth transceiver. Apparently, with Starlink the sats will be much closer to earth and provide much lower round trip time for packets. 600 ms is average for 1 packet of data with today's sats, starlink is touting 25-30 ms.

 

[MinJaBen]

Being a network engineer, I'll be curious to see the details of the roll out and what the real world performance is like. The biggest challenge with Satellite internet is the latency between satellite and earth transceiver. Apparently, with Starlink the sats will be much closer to earth and provide much lower round trip time for packets. 600 ms is average for 1 packet of data with today's sats, starlink is touting 25-30 ms.

Yeah, LEO is a huge advantage here compared to the other systems. Orbits in the ~200 mile range are much better than those higher up. Of course, that is why he needs so damn many satellites to make it work.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Being a network engineer, I'll be curious to see the details of the roll out and what the real world performance is like. The biggest challenge with Satellite internet is the latency between satellite and earth transceiver. Apparently, with Starlink the sats will be much closer to earth and provide much lower round trip time for packets. 600 ms is average for 1 packet of data with today's sats, starlink is touting 25-30 ms.

They also provide an excellent physical shield against space invasion.

Even if that jump is 25-30ms, is that fast enough for more latency intensive things (online gaming in particular). Wouldn’t every other hop it has to make push that into the 50ms range (you’d know better than I)? Most online gamers would not love that being their best possible ping.

 

[MinJaBen]

They also provide an excellent physical shield against space invasion.

More likely an excellent shield against space exploration....

Kessler Syndrome

 

[The Faulker 27]

They also provide an excellent physical shield against space invasion.

Even if that jump is 25-30ms, is that fast enough for more latency intensive things (online gaming in particular). Wouldn’t every other hop it has to make push that into the 50ms range (you’d know better than I)? Most online gamers would not love that being their best possible ping.

Several factors, but theoretically if they were able to deliver on initial estimate of 25-30 ms I would think latency for most games would be acceptable especially AAA titles since they'll likely have servers all over the place. I have a fiber connection, and occasionally play games like MW. Typically my ping time is 40-45 ms (for that particular game's servers) and I never experience lag. It's going to depend on where the gateway you're hitting is situated on earth (after it makes the hop over the sat link), and from there what server it hits.

If Musk/SpaceX is serious about making this work, details like this should be factored in. He's a gamer himself actually.

 

[SlavinAway]

Several factors, but theoretically if they were able to deliver on initial estimate of 25-30 ms I would think latency for most games would be acceptable especially AAA titles since they'll likely have servers all over the place. I have a fiber connection, and occasionally play games like MW. Typically my ping time is 40-45 ms (for that particular game's servers) and I never experience lag. It's going to depend on where the gateway you're hitting is situated on earth (after it makes the hop over the sat link), and from there what server it hits.

If Musk/SpaceX is serious about making this work, details like this should be factored in. He's a gamer himself actually.

I feel like I'm young enough that I should know what you guys are talking about; but I don't....

 

[MinJaBen]

I feel like I'm young enough that I should know what you guys are talking about; but I don't....

"Get off my bandwidth!"

 

[The Faulker 27]

I feel like I'm young enough that I should know what you guys are talking about; but I don't....

Send the fiber optic bandwidth into the hard drive, it will program the capacitor by synthesizing its GUI system!

 

[DaveG]

More likely an excellent shield against space exploration....

Kessler Syndrome

That was my first thought. There's already so much shit up there in LEO that we are already likely approaching critical mass

 

[Lempo]

A 4 month old that doesn't sleep has put a massive dent in my post count... while at the same time increasing my snarkiness level.

It has gotten a bit boring around here though, it's like the positivity of the team has left the fun posters with less content to post.

I understand this is the usual criticism against Dante's Divina Commedia... Paradiso is the boring part because what's you're going to do expect tell how folks you meet are still even more blissful on the next sphere of Heaven while orbiting to the other direction.

Inferno and Purgatorio is where it's at and where the writer really can let go with sadomasochistic inventiveness while calling out people he doesn't like.

 

[NotOpie]

I understand this is the usual criticism against Dante's Divina Commedia... Paradiso is the boring part because what's you're going to do expect tell how folks you meet are still even more blissful on the next sphere of Heaven while orbiting to the other direction.

Inferno and Purgatorio is where it's at and where the writer really can let go with sadomasochistic inventiveness while calling out people he doesn't like.

The English major in me just got a literature bone-r.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Neil Peart, Rush Drummer Who Set a New Standard for Rock Virtuosity, Dead at 67

Totally unexpected and sad.

 

[AD Skinner]

Neil Peart, Rush Drummer Who Set a New Standard for Rock Virtuosity, Dead at 67

Totally unexpected and sad.

What a bummer. Apparently he'd been sick for a while but kept it mostly private. Put up barriers to keep himself intact.

 

[The Faulker 27]

What a bummer. Apparently he'd been sick for a while but kept it mostly private. Put up barriers to keep himself intact.

I knew something was probably up when they announced he was done drumming, but at the time I think they announced it as tendon/nerve issues.

 

[SvechneJerk]

Neil Peart, Rush Drummer Who Set a New Standard for Rock Virtuosity, Dead at 67

Totally unexpected and sad.

What a bummer. Apparently he'd been sick for a while but kept it mostly private. Put up barriers to keep himself intact.

I knew something was probably up when they announced he was done drumming, but at the time I think they announced it as tendon/nerve issues.

That really sucks. One of my favorite musicians.

The wife met Geddy & Neil back in ‘99 while in NYC spending time with her sister & brother-in-law (who’s very good friends with Geddy). It was pretty cool for her. And yes, I was very jealous.

RIP Neil.

 

[GindyDraws]

I can't sleep. Tell me a bedtime story.

No, legit, I'm up cuz the country soul food restaurant is up in flames and they're tearing apart a two story, brick building to contain the flames.

 

[HisIceness]

Neil Peart, Rush Drummer Who Set a New Standard for Rock Virtuosity, Dead at 67

Totally unexpected and sad.

RIP. Chester Cheetah summed it up best

 

[HisIceness]

Also, Trick Daddy isn't looking so good these days. Hope he gets help because this is not a pretty picture.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

On the 9th my paperwork goes before a board to allow me to retire from the North Carolina Army National Guard.

After what went on last night, we'll be at war by then and my packet will be denied. fml.

HOW DID IT GO?

 

[Negan4Coach]

HOW DID IT GO?

I'm assuming it was approved. After all, everything worked out great with the Iran thing (unless you happened to be a Ukrainian airline passenger, wtf) I'll find out this week when I go to drill.

It'll be nice to finally hang them up. The only downside is now health insurance gets a lot more expensive.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Also, Trick Daddy isn't looking so good these days. Hope he gets help because this is not a pretty picture.

Never heard of him. Googled him. Still don’t know who he is.