Hurricanes Lounge XXVIII: The "where's the rain?" edition

[Lempo]

The duck season started on 20th, it's the first Saturday of the season, the clock is 10 pm, and shotguns are going off rapid fire somewhere nearby.

Also don't tell anyone but I'm a bit stressed out. I'm waiting for a slam dunk resolution to come out from the administrative court that's gonna set the balls moving and maybe to the wall, but they sure are taking their time with it.

 

[enviSAGE]

Just waded through the entire "Nylander/Leafs not close on a contract" thread on the main trade board. There were all these arguments about what Nylander would sign for and what the team was looking for and potential offer sheets and how none of that would happen and.....well you get the picture. Typical TML trade thread.

What nobody really addressed was Toronto's salary cap situation. Personally, I don't see anyway that Nylander (or maybe Marner) is on that team at the beginning of next season. The math just doesn't work out....especially if they want a solid Top 4 defender.

Waddell can easily find himself in the same situation in a few years if he's not careful.. $6mil+ contracts to Aho, TT, Necas, Svech, Staal, Hamilton. Unless our goalies start playing for free, it's gonna get tight quick.

 

[Lempo]

The goalies are already playing free-for-all, it's just a matter of fine-tuning.

 

[Lempo]

Also apparently the shotguns were fireworks, to celebrate the ending of the summer vacation season, I'm told by the wife.

It does make sense because it's too dark for duck-hunting, but damn in the mental image of Saturday night duck-hunting didn't speak to me. Everyone would not be particularly sober for it.

 

[Oogie Boogie]

That was a damn good TI Grand Finals matchup

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Waddell can easily find himself in the same situation in a few years if he's not careful.. $6mil+ contracts to Aho, TT, Necas, Svech, Staal, Hamilton. Unless our goalies start playing for free, it's gonna get tight quick.

I look forward to the day the Canes find themselves in the same situation.

 

[NotOpie]

Things would be a lot easier for them if Matthews was signing a contract first. If a team was planning ahead, they should offersheet Nylander a sheet that was a good contract a bit on the high side, but one TML would sign. Then next year really go after Matthews. Put TML in a situation where matching hurts and forces a loss of Marner or Nylander. Marner and Nylander aren't worth four 1sts, but Matthews is if he is the last piece on a team deep with prospects already in the system and young.

I mean, if you look at the team make-up and their salaries, paying Nylander $6.5 million to $6.75 million really, really puts them in a bind....and there's almost certainly going to be no increase in salary cap until after the new CBA. But your point is well taken. Personally, I'd get Aho done and then drop a sheet on Nylander for $6.75 for 6 years. If the Leafs accepted that deal, then great! They really can't do both Nylander and a competent Top 4 defender.

Waddell can easily find himself in the same situation in a few years if he's not careful.. $6mil+ contracts to Aho, TT, Necas, Svech, Staal, Hamilton. Unless our goalies start playing for free, it's gonna get tight quick.

Actually, the real issue only happens in 19-20....things easy up after that. Assuming that we re-sign Aho and Teravainen for about $14 million between them and add a forward like a Nylander for $6.75 million, we'd have 15 guys signed for about $66.5 million. Ultimately we'd probably have to spend to within $3 or $4 million of the cap that season.

Truth be told, as we become more competitive, I'd expect us to spend to that level anyway. Once we are in a position to extend Svechnikov and Necas, we don't know what the make up of the team will be. It is one of the reasons that it is so important to have depth.

I look forward to the day the Canes find themselves in the same situation.

So do I....so do I....

 

[Lempo]

I mean, if you look at the team make-up and their salaries, paying Nylander $6.5 million to $6.75 million really, really puts them in a bind....and there's almost certainly going to be no increase in salary cap until after the new CBA. But your point is well taken. Personally, I'd get Aho done and then drop a sheet on Nylander for $6.75 for 6 years. If the Leafs accepted that deal, then great! They really can't do both Nylander and a competent Top 4 defender.



Actually, the real issue only happens in 19-20....things easy up after that. Assuming that we re-sign Aho and Teravainen for about $14 million between them and add a forward like a Nylander for $6.75 million, we'd have 15 guys signed for about $66.5 million. Ultimately we'd probably have to spend to within $3 or $4 million of the cap that season.

Truth be told, as we become more competitive, I'd expect us to spend to that level anyway. Once we are in a position to extend Svechnikov and Necas, we don't know what the make up of the team will be. It is one of the reasons that it is so important to have depth.



So do I....so do I....

40.5M divided per lesser of the full term or 5 will be 8.1M, meaning compensation of two 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd.

 

[NotOpie]

40.5M divided per lesser of the full term or 5 will be 8.1M, meaning compensation of two 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd.

Actually it is a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd.

 

[HisIceness]

All this talk of money I can only think of one thing.

 

[Lempo]

Actually it is a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd.

You seem to be right, apparently that's the going price in 2018 for $6,088,981 - $8,118,641.

I looked it up from CBA, and didn't expect the yearly increase to push the original upper limit of $6,728,781 for 1-2-3 so high.

You crafty bastard didn't choose $8.1M AAV by accident I see.

 

[NotOpie]

You seem to be right, apparently that's the going price in 2018 for $6,088,981 - $8,118,641.

I looked it up from CBA, and didn't expect the yearly increase to push the original upper limit of $6,728,781 for 1-2-3 so high.

You crafty bastard didn't choose $8.1M AAV by accident I see.

Thinking of changing my user name to:

#CraftyBastard

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Thinking of changing my user name to:

#CraftyBastard

Skip the crafty part.

 

[Lempo]

Skip the crafty part.

It's good historic name; William of Normandy was known by it for a long time before he opted for the silly pretentious Conqueror.

 

[NotOpie]

Skip the crafty part.

Clearly you know nothing of my parentage. Illegitimate....no....black sheep of the family....without a doubt.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Clearly you know nothing of my parentage. Illegitimate....no....black sheep of the family....without a doubt.

And what’s wrong with black sheep, huh? Ya racist.

 

[Lempo]

And what’s wrong with black sheep, huh? Ya racist.

If you make a sweater out of black wool, you'll easily see animal hair on it, dummy.

 

[NotOpie]

And what’s wrong with black sheep, huh? Ya racist.

....it would literally mean that I hate myself....I may have the occasional lapse, but I'm a self-lover, not a self-hater. Besides, we black sheep are much more interesting....

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I’m currently at an Ottawa vs Kingston ohl exhibition and both these teams have such incredible jerseys. The Kingston goalies both have amazing equipment, too.

 

[HisIceness]

Happy Labor Day friends

 

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[Surrounded By Ahos]

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[vorbis]

oh man before my next outdoor concert or whatever I really need to buy this to troll the people unlucky enough to end up behind me The Brobdingnagian Sports Chair - Hammacher Schlemmer

 

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[Anton Dubinchuk]

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