This team would have a negative record without Toews, especially since Makar has been pretty pedestrian.
Our defense would’ve been:
Graves - Makar
Girard - Timmins
Gilbert - Cole
to start the season.
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This team would have a negative record without Toews, especially since Makar has been pretty pedestrian.
Our defense would’ve been:
Graves - Makar
Girard - Timmins
Gilbert - Cole
to start the season.
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It’s crazy to think about, but if he can keep it up, maybe you do put Byram in the top-4. He was legit the teams best defenceman in the 3rd period.
You can put them in whatever order you want, but there really does seem to be a natural chemistry with Byram/Makar.
Toews - Girard
Byram - Makar
Graves - EJ
This would also be suitable while Byram gets more experience:
Toews - Makar
Girard - Johnson
Byram - Graves/Timmins
What is the current situation with expansion draft loss? Does it seem reasonable it is one of the defensemen, or is there a lot of exemptions? Does Makar need to be protected.
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Toews-Makar
Girard-Timmins
Byram-EJ
Makar has to be protected. Timmins, Byram do not. So you protect Makar, Girard, Toews. Maybe EJ too, since there are hardly any forwards beyond the Big 3 worth protecting.
Girard-Timmins
Byram-EJ
Makar has to be protected. Timmins, Byram do not. So you protect Makar, Girard, Toews. Maybe EJ too, since there are hardly any forwards beyond the Big 3 worth protecting.
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Makar Girard Toews and EJ because of his NMC unless he waives/bought out. Will be protected
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Makar needs to be protected. We've know that since he played in Game 3 against the Flames.
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Girard, Byram, and Makar with the primary assists and all three were great plays by them. The present and future is bright between them and Toews, whose only 26.
(And Pateryn)
(And Pateryn)
yoy guys are hyper obsessed with the D. Anaheim got all of two goals. Lots of throwing pucks towards the net and hoping. The problem remains the top 9. Those guys are making these games competitive with their ineptitude.
Protecting a forward can be advantageous for the team. Such as protecting Saad to force Seattle to take a player with salary. That way you get Saad off the books as a UFA and a player under contract getting a nice chunk of cap space. Seattle taking EJ seems unlikely.
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And Toews/Girard are signed for four seasons for only 9 million combined. Hopefully that will allow the Avs to keep Byram/Makar long term as well.
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EJ has a NMC and I doubt he waives. We need to dump Compher on them somehow.
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This effin Graves-Pateryn pairing needs to stop asap. Either Timmins or Gilbert in and staple Pateryn's ass to the Eagles bench.
Yeah, that pairing is a disaster, and them being out at the same time as the uproariously bad second line ended exactly how we all knew it would.
I think Timmins should come in. I wonder how many total NHL-games Toews-Makar-Byram-Girard-Graves-Timmins have played.
Anyone have an angle on the Ducks second goal that shows it clearly in. I believe it was, but got caught up in an internet debate about it (spectating) and now I am curious.
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We won in OT? Jesus, when did this happen the last time?
I´ll take the Win and points, but man, beside our first line there is something wrong in denmark! If this mess goes on we arte in big trouble pretty soon. You can´t just rely on your star players to get the job done every night....
I´ll take the Win and points, but man, beside our first line there is something wrong in denmark! If this mess goes on we arte in big trouble pretty soon. You can´t just rely on your star players to get the job done every night....
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Can you protect 3-7-1 in the expansion draft? Asking for a friendly team.
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Good teams tend to find ways to win games even when they're not playing well.
Avs managed to do exactly that tonight. Obviously they weren't playing well, but guys stepped up when needed, Grubauer played excellent, and they squeaked out 2 points.
Really need to figure things out at 5 on 5 here soon though. Cant keep relying on the PP and the Dmen to generate all of our offense.
Avs managed to do exactly that tonight. Obviously they weren't playing well, but guys stepped up when needed, Grubauer played excellent, and they squeaked out 2 points.
Really need to figure things out at 5 on 5 here soon though. Cant keep relying on the PP and the Dmen to generate all of our offense.
Should be like this. Makar and Byram with their offensive talents on the second line to make up for the current offensive ineptitude of second line forwards.
Important question, will all the regular season games be played strictly within the West division? If yes, i guess no Avs games for me this year, as that means 3-4 AM times for me...f*** such season. Continents cant collide fast enough.
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Couldn’t comment last night, but Graves made me throw my remote twice.
He’s brain dead.
Simple, easy plays are there.
Retrieve the puck in your zone and fire it around the boards. Nope. Try to reverse it into traffic.
Stay in front of the net when the puck is in the opposite corner. Nope. Puck watch and drift away from the slot, leaving wide open one-timers on goal.
The opponent is clearly winning that puck, retreat and give up their blue line. Nope. Stand still like a f***ing pylon and wave your stick at the guy before giving up a clear odd-man break.
Every decision he makes is baffling.
What a stupid hockey player.
He’s brain dead.
Simple, easy plays are there.
Retrieve the puck in your zone and fire it around the boards. Nope. Try to reverse it into traffic.
Stay in front of the net when the puck is in the opposite corner. Nope. Puck watch and drift away from the slot, leaving wide open one-timers on goal.
The opponent is clearly winning that puck, retreat and give up their blue line. Nope. Stand still like a f***ing pylon and wave your stick at the guy before giving up a clear odd-man break.
Every decision he makes is baffling.
What a stupid hockey player.
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I don’t think Pateryn has been as bad as most people are letting on. He’s been better than Cole and even Graves who only looked good once this year and it was when he was paired with Girard who had the best game of his career.
I’d rather Timmins in general but with EJ down I have no issues with Pateryn filling in and playing 11 5v5 minutes like he did last night while eating the heavy PK minutes. Graves was the real problem on the back end.
I’d rather Timmins in general but with EJ down I have no issues with Pateryn filling in and playing 11 5v5 minutes like he did last night while eating the heavy PK minutes. Graves was the real problem on the back end.
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Pretty sexy advanced stats for Toews/Makar last night.
Towes had a 70CF and 21 relative.
Makar was on the ice for 28 chances for and 6 against. 82 CF and 43 relative.
Pateryn/Graves were -35 and -42 relative to their teammates.
Towes had a 70CF and 21 relative.
Makar was on the ice for 28 chances for and 6 against. 82 CF and 43 relative.
Pateryn/Graves were -35 and -42 relative to their teammates.
